mtDNA question

On May 17, 2008, at 7:24 PM, JUANITA DELGADO wrote:

> This is for experts on DNA out there:
>
> I just had my mtDNA done. If my daughter had hers done, would the
> results be exactly the same?
> If my "ancient" mother was a Native American, is there a chance
> that through all those hundreds of years there would have been a
> EUROPEAN mother somewhere along the line
> Juanita

Hi Juanita,
Yes, your daughter should have the same mtDNA as you, your mother,
grandmother, etc. all the way back to your "ancient" mother. MtDNA
is passed down from mother's to all their children. The daughters
then pass it down to their children. (Men do not pass down mtDNA)
There is the possibility of slight differences due to mutation and
heteroplasmy, but that is for another discussion.

As for a "European mother somewhere along the line," it depends on
what line you are referring to. If you are referring to your mtDNA
female line, it will be the same all along the line. Remember, your
mtDNA does NOT include any male Y-DNA or it's influences. Also, the
mtDNA tested for genealogical purposes is not all your DNA. The
parts normally tested for genetic genealogy are the Hypervariable
Regions, sometimes called the Control Region in scientific papers.
That region is much shorter, has no genes, and mutates more frequently.

If you are referring to the possibility of a "European mother"
somewhere in your father's line, it would not show up in his Y-DNA.
If your father's mother were European his mtDNA would show her
European mtDNA, since men have both Y-DNA and mtDNA. But only your
mother's mtDNA would be passed down to you, not your father's mtDNA
(and therefore not his mother's mtDNA).

If you had your mtDNA tested with FamilyTreeDNA, join a group that
matches your results. Also join the Newbie DNA list at DNA-
NEWBIE@yahoogroups.com. There are very knowledgeable people who will
answer your questions on this list.

Linda

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juanita galvan ... | 18 May, 2008 - 7:00pm

Hello, Linda,

THANKS!!!

JUANITA

Linda wrote:

On May 17, 2008, at 7:24 PM, JUANITA DELGADO wrote:

> This is for experts on DNA out there:
>
> I just had my mtDNA done. If my daughter had hers done, would the
> results be exactly the same?
> If my "ancient" mother was a Native American, is there a chance
> that through all those hundreds of years there would have been a
> EUROPEAN mother somewhere along the line
> Juanita

Hi Juanita,
Yes, your daughter should have the same mtDNA as you, your mother,
grandmother, etc. all the way back to your "ancient" mother. MtDNA
is passed down from mother's to all their children. The daughters
then pass it down to their children. (Men do not pass down mtDNA)
There is the possibility of slight differences due to mutation and
heteroplasmy, but that is for another discussion.

As for a "European mother somewhere along the line," it depends on
what line you are referring to. If you are referring to your mtDNA
female line, it will be the same all along the line. Remember, your
mtDNA does NOT include any male Y-DNA or it's influences. Also, the
mtDNA tested for genealogical purposes is not all your DNA. The
parts normally tested for genetic genealogy are the Hypervariable
Regions, sometimes called the Control Region in scientific papers.
That region is much shorter, has no genes, and mutates more frequently.

If you are referring to the possibility of a "European mother"
somewhere in your father's line, it would not show up in his Y-DNA.
If your father's mother were European his mtDNA would show her
European mtDNA, since men have both Y-DNA and mtDNA. But only your
mother's mtDNA would be passed down to you, not your father's mtDNA
(and therefore not his mother's mtDNA).

If you had your mtDNA tested with FamilyTreeDNA, join a group that
matches your results. Also join the Newbie DNA list at DNA-
NEWBIE@yahoogroups.com. There are very knowledgeable people who will
answer your questions on this list.

Linda

Sofia | 19 May, 2008 - 10:30am

LINDA!

I have to say THANK YOU also, since I had the same questions that Juanita had.
Do you know if there is a test that can show anything having to do with any male line, may it be threw your mother or father, being a female?

Sofia
> Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 16:55:51 -0700> From: missjuanni13@yahoo.com> To: general@nuestrosranchos.com> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA question> > Hello, Linda,> > THANKS!!!> > JUANITA> > Linda wrote:> > On May 17, 2008, at 7:24 PM, JUANITA DELGADO wrote:> > > This is for experts on DNA out there:> >> > I just had my mtDNA done. If my daughter had hers done, would the > > results be exactly the same?> > If my "ancient" mother was a Native American, is there a chance > > that through all those hundreds of years there would have been a > > EUROPEAN mother somewhere along the line> > Juanita> > Hi Juanita,> Yes, your daughter should have the same mtDNA as you, your mother, > grandmother, etc. all the way back to your "ancient" mother. MtDNA > is passed down from mother's to all their children. The daughters > then pass it down to their children. (Men do not pass down mtDNA) > There is the possibility of slight differences due to mutation and > het
eroplasmy, but that is for another discussion.> > As for a "European mother somewhere along the line," it depends on > what line you are referring to. If you are referring to your mtDNA > female line, it will be the same all along the line. Remember, your > mtDNA does NOT include any male Y-DNA or it's influences. Also, the > mtDNA tested for genealogical purposes is not all your DNA. The > parts normally tested for genetic genealogy are the Hypervariable > Regions, sometimes called the Control Region in scientific papers. > That region is much shorter, has no genes, and mutates more frequently.> > If you are referring to the possibility of a "European mother" > somewhere in your father's line, it would not show up in his Y-DNA. > If your father's mother were European his mtDNA would show her > European mtDNA, since men have both Y-DNA and mtDNA. But only your > mother's mtDNA would be passed down to you, not your father's mtDNA > (and therefore not his mother's mtDNA).> > I
f you had your mtDNA tested with FamilyTreeDNA, join a group that > matches your results. Also join the Newbie DNA list at DNA- > NEWBIE@yahoogroups.com. There are very knowledgeable people who will > answer your questions on this list.> > Linda> >
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juanita galvan ... | 19 May, 2008 - 8:00pm

Linda,
I'm looking at several sites like Nt Geo., Human Genetics.com, etc. Needless to say, anything having to do with DNA is most,most interesting and QUITE intriguing,and acutally difficult for the average Jane/Joe to understand no matter how "easy" it is put. There are many technical terms that are just foreign to the average Jane/Joe . I think I was just trying to get a a quick general answer.

However, the more you read on the subject the more you begin to "understand" some of it. Some sites have pages and pages of explanations/information. I think I have the "basic" idea pertaining to my results. I was sorry to learn that I have no matches now.
,
Thanks for anyinformation you give me.

Juanita

sophia wrote:

LINDA!

I have to say THANK YOU also, since I had the same questions that Juanita had.
Do you know if there is a test that can show anything having to do with any male line, may it be threw your mother or father, being a female?

Sofia
> Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 16:55:51 -0700> From: missjuanni13@yahoo.com> To: general@nuestrosranchos.com> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA question> > Hello, Linda,> > THANKS!!!> > JUANITA> > Linda wrote:> > On May 17, 2008, at 7:24 PM, JUANITA DELGADO wrote:> > > This is for experts on DNA out there:> >> > I just had my mtDNA done. If my daughter had hers done, would the > > results be exactly the same?> > If my "ancient" mother was a Native American, is there a chance > > that through all those hundreds of years there would have been a > > EUROPEAN mother somewhere along the line> > Juanita> > Hi Juanita,> Yes, your daughter should have the same mtDNA as you, your mother, > grandmother, etc. all the way back to your "ancient" mother. MtDNA > is passed down from mother's to all their children. The daughters > then pass it down to their children. (Men do not pass down mtDNA) > There is the possibility of slight differences due to mutation and > het
eroplasmy, but that is for another discussion.> > As for a "European mother somewhere along the line," it depends on > what line you are referring to. If you are referring to your mtDNA > female line, it will be the same all along the line. Remember, your > mtDNA does NOT include any male Y-DNA or it's influences. Also, the > mtDNA tested for genealogical purposes is not all your DNA. The > parts normally tested for genetic genealogy are the Hypervariable > Regions, sometimes called the Control Region in scientific papers. > That region is much shorter, has no genes, and mutates more frequently.> > If you are referring to the possibility of a "European mother" > somewhere in your father's line, it would not show up in his Y-DNA. > If your father's mother were European his mtDNA would show her > European mtDNA, since men have both Y-DNA and mtDNA. But only your > mother's mtDNA would be passed down to you, not your father's mtDNA > (and therefore not his mother's mtDNA).> > I
f you had your mtDNA tested with FamilyTreeDNA, join a group that > matches your results. Also join the Newbie DNA list at DNA- > NEWBIE@yahoogroups.com. There are very knowledgeable people who will > answer your questions on this list.> > Linda> >
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janjaeckle | 19 May, 2008 - 8:00pm

To test for the male line (y-chromosome), a male must be tested. The test could be done on your brother, father, uncle or sons of your uncles. Jan

sophia wrote:
LINDA!

I have to say THANK YOU also, since I had the same questions that Juanita had.
Do you know if there is a test that can show anything having to do with any male line, may it be threw your mother or father, being a female?

Sofia
> Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 16:55:51 -0700> From: missjuanni13@yahoo.com> To: general@nuestrosranchos.com> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA question> > Hello, Linda,> > THANKS!!!> > JUANITA> > Linda wrote:> > On May 17, 2008, at 7:24 PM, JUANITA DELGADO wrote:> > > This is for experts on DNA out there:> >> > I just had my mtDNA done. If my daughter had hers done, would the > > results be exactly the same?> > If my "ancient" mother was a Native American, is there a chance > > that through all those hundreds of years there would have been a > > EUROPEAN mother somewhere along the line> > Juanita> > Hi Juanita,> Yes, your daughter should have the same mtDNA as you, your mother, > grandmother, etc. all the way back to your "ancient" mother. MtDNA > is passed down from mother's to all their children. The daughters > then pass it down to their children. (Men do not pass down mtDNA) > There is the possibility of slight differences due to mutation and > het
eroplasmy, but that is for another discussion.> > As for a "European mother somewhere along the line," it depends on > what line you are referring to. If you are referring to your mtDNA > female line, it will be the same all along the line. Remember, your > mtDNA does NOT include any male Y-DNA or it's influences. Also, the > mtDNA tested for genealogical purposes is not all your DNA. The > parts normally tested for genetic genealogy are the Hypervariable > Regions, sometimes called the Control Region in scientific papers. > That region is much shorter, has no genes, and mutates more frequently.> > If you are referring to the possibility of a "European mother" > somewhere in your father's line, it would not show up in his Y-DNA. > If your father's mother were European his mtDNA would show her > European mtDNA, since men have both Y-DNA and mtDNA. But only your > mother's mtDNA would be passed down to you, not your father's mtDNA > (and therefore not his mother's mtDNA).> > I
f you had your mtDNA tested with FamilyTreeDNA, join a group that > matches your results. Also join the Newbie DNA list at DNA- > NEWBIE@yahoogroups.com. There are very knowledgeable people who will > answer your questions on this list.> > Linda> >
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Pat Silva Corbera | 19 May, 2008 - 10:45pm

Juanita,

What were your mtDNA test results? Plus what are the surnames that appear in your direct mtDNA ancestry?

My husband's mtDNA test results will be ready on about May 26th...
Surnames that appear in his direct line mtDNA are Perez, Andrada, Aguirre, Placencia, Lara Rodrigues, Rodrigues.
His YDNA tested out as Native American...

Pat Silva Corbera

Juanita you posted the following...

> However, the more you read on the subject the more you begin to "understand"
> some of it. Some sites have pages and pages of explanations/information. I think
> I have the "basic" idea pertaining to my results. I was sorry to learn that I
> have no matches now.
> Thanks for any information you give me.
> Juanita

Sofia | 20 May, 2008 - 10:15am

Thank you Jan!
I found a DNA test on the web that is called Autosomal-DNA. Supposibly a female can take this test if she has no males in her family. Has anyone heard of this test and if so, how much info can it give you to know about your father's line?

Sophia> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 17:48:23 -0700> From: janjaeckle@yahoo.com> To: general@nuestrosranchos.com> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA question> > To test for the male line (y-chromosome), a male must be tested. The test could be done on your brother, father, uncle or sons of your uncles. Jan
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romero89 | 20 May, 2008 - 3:30pm

On May 19, 2008, at 7:24 PM, Sofia wrote:
> I have to say THANK YOU also, since I had the same questions that
> Juanita had.
> Do you know if there is a test that can show anything having to do
> with any male line, may it be threw your mother or father, being a
> female?
>
> Sofia

Hi Sofia,

For a female to trace her male line, she must enlist the help of a
male descendant of her father. That means she must test either her
brother, her brother's son. She can also test her father's brother
or her father's brother's son (her male cousin on her father's
side). My brother was kind enough to submit his Y-DNA for my research.

Linda

AnnValdez | 20 May, 2008 - 5:00pm

OK. I want to make sure I understand this. I have not quite looked into
this but have been curious. I am an only child (female) of my father whom
died many years ago. I never knew anyone from my father's family; he lost
contact with them as a teenager. There is a slim chance I will ever find
them. From this am I to gather that there is NO DNA test that I can take
that will help in my father's genealogy?

Ann Rubio Valdez
Sugar Land, Texas

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA question

On May 19, 2008, at 7:24 PM, Sofia wrote:
> I have to say THANK YOU also, since I had the same questions that
> Juanita had.
> Do you know if there is a test that can show anything having to do
> with any male line, may it be threw your mother or father, being a
> female?
>
> Sofia

Hi Sofia,

For a female to trace her male line, she must enlist the help of a
male descendant of her father. That means she must test either her
brother, her brother's son. She can also test her father's brother
or her father's brother's son (her male cousin on her father's
side). My brother was kind enough to submit his Y-DNA for my research.

Linda

Sofia | 20 May, 2008 - 5:15pm

Hello Ann,

With my questions that I have asked here and the ones I asked Family Tree DNA the responce is "no". We cannot trace our father's line if there is no male.

Sophia> From: annvaldez@earthlink.net> To: general@nuestrosranchos.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:53:36 -0500> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] mtDNA question> > OK. I want to make sure I understand this. I have not quite looked into> this but have been curious. I am an only child (female) of my father whom> died many years ago. I never knew anyone from my father's family; he lost> contact with them as a teenager. There is a slim chance I will ever find> them. From this am I to gather that there is NO DNA test that I can take> that will help in my father's genealogy? > > Ann Rubio Valdez> Sugar Land, Texas>
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juanita galvan ... | 20 May, 2008 - 9:00pm

Hi, Pat,
I'll talk to you tomorrow. I need to close now.

Juanita

PatriciaCorbera@comcast.net wrote:
Juanita,

What were your mtDNA test results? Plus what are the surnames that appear in your direct mtDNA ancestry?

My husband's mtDNA test results will be ready on about May 26th...
Surnames that appear in his direct line mtDNA are Perez, Andrada, Aguirre, Placencia, Lara Rodrigues, Rodrigues.
His YDNA tested out as Native American...

Pat Silva Corbera

Juanita you posted the following...

> However, the more you read on the subject the more you begin to "understand"
> some of it. Some sites have pages and pages of explanations/information. I think
> I have the "basic" idea pertaining to my results. I was sorry to learn that I
> have no matches now.
> Thanks for any information you give me.
> Juanita

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