Baptisms "naturales" are children born out of wedlock.

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- Angie

I would definatly look for both first off with Legítimos then Naturales because we never know if our ancestors had children before they married. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IN GENEALOGY!
-Daniel Méndez del Camino
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Joseph,
Bautismos "naturales" means that the parents were not married. I would check both sets of records, several times I have found one or two children in a family in the "naturales" records even though the parents were married and other children were in other records. It usually happens around the time a new priest took over.

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
> From: dreamwalker1944@sbcglobal.net
> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:20:34 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Microfilm Baptisimal Records
>
>
> I am ordering up microfilm for baptism records for both Huejucar and Cololan for the mid-1880s.
>
> Some of the dates are overlapped by baptisms "naturales". I am not exactly sure what that means.
>
> Which one is best to order to find all the necessary data: the baptisms, the baptisms "naturales", or should I order BOTH sets to be sure to find the necessary data?

thank you very much!

Jose Carlos de Leon

Jaime,

I have a Lopez Gonzales and Lopez Cerbantes (mom is Felipa/Maria Felipa) in my 8th generation; everything else connects well. Is this the same mom with Cerbantes/Gonzales? How do I choose father's surname? Do I need to go further back to find out?

I guess I need reassurance that I'm in the right track? Thank you.

-Esther Jordan (Lopez)

I have copies of Mexican birth records where some children were born before the
parents were married and therefore listed as hijos naturales and sometimes
written as illegitimos. Then there are birth records of children form the same
parents shown as legitimos, presumably born after they were married!! Another
thing the local priests do is change the surname spelling. I have seen
Bareda v Barrera in the same family due to a priestly misspelling which becomes
recorded for history, thus effectively changing the surname. Many Spanish last
names have these changes. Phonic error is responsible.

Jaime

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From: Lona Rivera
To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 3:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Microfilm Baptisimal Records

oseph,
autismos "naturales" means that the parents were not married. I would check
oth sets of records, several times I have found one or two children in a family

n the "naturales" records even though the parents were married and other
hildren were in other records. It usually happens around the time a new priest

ook over.
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
From: dreamwalker1944@sbcglobal.net
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:20:34 -0700
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Microfilm Baptisimal Records

I am ordering up microfilm for baptism records for both Huejucar and Cololan
or the mid-1880s.

Some of the dates are overlapped by baptisms "naturales". I am not exactly
ure what that means.

Which one is best to order to find all the necessary data: the baptisms, the

aptisms "naturales", or should I order BOTH sets to be sure to find the
ecessary data?