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Juan de la Torre (married to Juana de Gamboa)- Sitio "el Mesquite"

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By superhorrible - Posted on 14 December 2019

Hello,
New theory about the parents of Juan de la Torre (married to Juana de Gamboa)
I'm still working with land records. I'm submitting the following information:
This is the history of EL MESQUITE in Jerez Zacatecas. (documented)
1. Initially the land was purchased by Miguel Caldera 1592
2. Miguel Caldera trades the land with his son in law Juan de la Torre Valdes (married to Ysabel Caldera) 1596
3. Juan de la torre takes posession in 1630
4. Heirs of Juan de la torre take posession in 1644 (Sebastian, Pedro, Diego and Juana de Gamboa)

EXPLANATION:
It is clear that the first Juan de la Torre Valdes is the one married to Ysabel Caldera. In the document Juan de la Torre Valdes is refered as the "yerno" of Miguel Caldera.
Now the problem is the 34 years between the second document and the third document. It is clear that the one that takes posession in 1630 is Juan de la Torre Valdes (married to Juana de Gamboa), because on document fourth the heirs are the sons and wife of Juan de la Torre Valdes (married to Juana de Gamboa). The document doesnt explain why (or how) it took posession, but it was clearly a transfer. I believe that the reason is that JUAN DE LA TORRE VALDES (MARRIED TO JUANA DE GAMBOA) IS THE SON OF JUAN DE LA TORRE VALDES (MARRIED TO YSABEL CALDERA). This theory will explain the 34 years between the land exchange and when the second Juan de la Torre took possession. Another clue to me is that clearly the transfer wasn't a purchased (in the first purchased of the land by Miguel Caldera was even marked how much Caldera paid for the land)

SOURCES:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-69K6-B?i=110&cat=278176

With this explanation my tree would look like (this is not my tree):
https://gw.geneanet.org/tdowling?lang=en&n=caldera&oc=0&p=miguel

Any comments??

happy Holidays

sus

Hello,

Please disregard my previous theory. I read the will from Miguel Caldera the document says there were only 2 children from the marriage between Juan de La Torre and Ysabel Caldera (Marcos and Melchor).
Now the new theory is that Juan de la Torre (married to Isabel Caldera) is the same Juan de la Torre that married to Juana de Gamboa (second marriage)

Any comments?

Happy holiday

sus L

or alternately the juan who married juana gamboa is a son of the other juan and some woman other than isabel caldera

The only problem with that theory is that Juan de la Torre (married to Juana Gamboa) somehow "got" the land from Juan de la Torre (married to Isabel Caldera).
I agree we need more documents to understand their relationship. I'm sure of anything

sus

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