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By Esther Hernande... - Posted on 03 November 2019

Has anyone ever not found a baptism registration between 1845-1860 in Jalisco? I have been searching for one for my great great grandfather for about a year now and no luck. Does this mean they didn’t get baptized? I found his marriage church record so I’m assuming he had to be a catholic in order to get married in the church? I have search the surrounding municipals documents where it says he was originally from the surrounding neighbor.

Yes, that's happened to me before; I do think that some baptism records and other church records weren't included, probably due to an oversight. I have decided that if I never find the record, I'll have to live with other records to help fill in the gaps.

Same thing happened to me with a couple of my ancestors from Tamazula, while this particular town had records for the year I believed him to have been born, he was not in those.

His marriage said he was from that town and being 20 years old, so I looked 3 years prior and 3 after one by one and never found his baptism,

Thank you so much for replying, I thought it was only me but makes me feel confident that I did look in all the right places.

Hi Esther,

I know your struggle. I've been looking for the baptism record for my GG-Grandfather for a while now. I'm still searching documents, page by page - around the year I estimate he was born. All his brothers and sisters were baptized, so I know for a fact he was also.

Some of the years I've searched are stained/damaged, so they are very difficult to make out. Also, being a Hernandez from Los Altos adds another level of difficulty, since we are so many.

Good luck,

Carlos Hernandez-Gamiño Medrano

Oh my gosh that is so funny, that is exactly what I have been doing for a year and maybe longer. My great great father is a Hernandez Martinez and I have looked in Jesus Maria, La Barca, La Piedad, Ayotlan, Degollado, Penjamo, Muanuel doblado and Arandas. Maybe one day we will find them :-). Are you also a Medrano? My husbands last name is Medrano and I see you have Gamiño, I also have that last name in my family tree.

Thank you,
Esther

I am Hernandez-Gamiño by my paternal bloodline, traced back to Domingo Hernandez-Gamiño as my 9th Great-Grandfather . Most of my family's records are in Arandas, which they/we didn't stray very far from at all.

I am in fact also Medrano by my mother's father. He was a Medrano. I have his agnatic line traced back to some time in the 18th century, but have sort of hit a wall there. I don't know if this is because there is a lack of records, or if this was when they were baptized as Catholics, as many records for Medrano I have found, identify them as Indios.

I still wonder where they got the name, as it is a Spanish surname. I've read a lot of the time they would take the name from the jefe of the hacienda, when they were baptized. Still much more research to be done here!

Saludos Prima! Much luck to you!

I am Hernandez-Gamiño by my paternal bloodline, traced back to Domingo Hernandez-Gamiño as my 9th Great-Grandfather . Most of my family's records are in Arandas, which they/we didn't stray very far from at all.

I am in fact also Medrano by my mother's father. He was a Medrano. I have his agnatic line traced back to some time in the 18th century, but have sort of hit a wall there. I don't know if this is because there is a lack of records, or if this was when they were baptized as Catholics, as many records for Medrano I have found, identify them as Indios.

I still wonder where they got the name, as it is a Spanish surname. I've read a lot of the time they would take the name from the jefe of the hacienda, when they were baptized. Still much more research to be done here!

Saludos Prima! Much luck to you!

Hi cherna,

So yesterday I started looking in the confirmation books and I think I finally figured out why I can not find my great great grandfathers birth registration. His name is Buenaventura Hernandez Martinez on his marriage and death records. On some of his children's and his records I have seen other names that might be his siblings. When I did research on one of documents there was a Juana Hernandez with her husband and I looked up their marriage reg. and found out that was his sister but mentions she was hija natural and on the document her name is Martinez. I found two other names and that were her children but both named Hernandez and was not able to find birth reg. either. At this point I was thinking all her children but one was out of wedlock but gave them the last name Hernandez after her late husband (married for 7 years). So yesterday I looked page by page on these records, they mention the child, parents and padrinos names, so I looked only for the mothers name. Since the confirmations were done when the bishop was in town and I hear it was not often they were there. Families seem to take their kids at the same time. I noticed in several names they would take 3 children with the same mother but the fathers names would change but it was the same padrinos. Back in those days people died very young from illnesses and they would remarry. So I found her name with two children (Catasino and Ventura) on there but with different fathers. For Catasino I had a death reg. but with her late husbands last name but he had already passed away calculating his birth year and was never able to find a baptism reg. I searched for Catasino Moreno baptism and confirmed it is her because her parents names are on the reg. and he is hijo natural. The other child is Ventura Sanches and I will start searching for his baptism to see if it is him indeed. I'm still searching the confirmation records in hopes to find Juana and Modesto to confirm this theory. I think she just named them all Hernandez because it was easier for the family and maybe she was embarrassed to have these children out of wedlock. Just thought I mention this to you because it can be the same situation for you and others that can't find baptismal documents.

Esther

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