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Josepha Romo Ruiz de Esparza 1689– BIRTH 04/20/1689 • Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, México

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By jimenec80 - Posted on 25 November 2018

Hello, here is a birth record on the lower right of the site listed below for Josepha Romo Ruuz de Esparza the child of Francisco Romo and Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza. Has anyone come accross this daughter? Her birth year seems to put her parents age past sixty at the time of Josepha's birth. Josepha married Geronimo Rosales Garcia. I am a descendant of this line.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-64V7-73W?i=141&wc=M6Q6-J29%3A64894501%2C64894502%2C64916201&cc=1502404

Cynthia Jimenez

Dear Cynthia,

Francisco Romo and Lorenza Ruiz De Esparza were not past 60 when their daughter Josepha was born. Lorenza was baptized in 1654 so she was 35 when her daughter Josepha baptized in 1689. Francisco was a little older as I have him as being born in the mid 1640’s.

Josepha and her husband Geronimo had many children. Their son Jose Gavriel Rosales Romo married his cousin Leonor Ruiz De Esparza.

Lorenza Ruiz De Esparza did not use the surnames of her parents. She was named after her maternal grandmother, “Lorenza Ruiz De Esparza.” You may have confused the two women and that is why you have Josepha’s mother as being much older.

Rick A. Ricci, book Mygenes2000

Thanks Rick for posting the info. It is easy to get confused when the same names are used generation after generation, and the same person uses different last names in different documents - these are the challenges I face when doing research. I don't know what I would do without you and others helping out with all kinds of info - i use the search function a lot in NR and come across your earlier posts often.

Hi Cynthia
Another good resource is Wikitree. Here is the entry for Lorenza born 1654, with the source citations:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ruiz_de_Esparza-167

Best Regards
Denise

Hello-
I added Jerónimo Rosales and his parents to Wikitree, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Rosales-203

Saludos
Austin

Hello Cynthia,

I do not have any information to share on your particular line, but I am decended from Lope De Esparza brother of Francisco.
Feel free to view my Gedcom which should be posted.

Joe Jimenez

Here is the evidence that Jose Gabriel Rosales y Romo and his wife Leonor Ruiz De Esparza are third cousins , once removed, through their Ruiz deEsparza lines:

1). Lope Ruiz De Esparza and Ana Francisca Gabai Navarro De Moctezuma

2). Bernardo Ruiz De Esparza and Cathalina Lozano m. 27/Feb/1634, [daughter of Juan Lozano and Isabel Frias]. (Catalina’s paternal grandparents:Juan Lozano and Inés Martínez)

3). Xstoval (Christobal) Ruiz De Esparza and Antonia (Antta) Alvarado (aka Lopez De Alvarado)(m. 19/Jan1662) [daughter of Luis de Alvarado and Beatriz Lopez de Elizalde (Lizalde)]

4). Francisco Ruiz De Esparza Alvarado and Josepha Ulloa, (b.28/Apr/1682), (daughter of Nicolás de Iñiguez y Ulloa y Lorenza de Cuevas, m. 13/Feb/1668)

5). Leonor Ruiz De Esparza (buried 26/Jun/1787) and Jose Gabriel Rosales y Romo De Vivar. [Jose Gabriel and Leonor are third cousins once removed through their Ruiz De Esparza lines).

6). They had at least two daughters:

María Gregoria De la Sma (Santísima) Trinidad Rosales y Ruiz De Esparza bap. 18/May/1760

Josepha Gertrudis Rosales y Esparza, bap. 19/Mar/1758

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1). Lope Ruiz De Esparza and Ana Francisca Gabai Navarro De Moctezuma

2). Lorenza Ruiz De Esparza and Luis Tiscareño De Molina (m. 16/May/1623)

3). Francisca Gabai (bap 24/Mar/1625) and Joseph Delgado

4). Lorenza Ruiz De Esparza bap. 6/Jun/1654 and Francisco Romo De Vivar (m. 13/Feb/1688)

5) Josepha Romo y Ruiz De Esparza and Geronimo Rosales Garcia

6) Jose Gabriel Rosales y Romo De Vivar and Leonor Ruiz De Esparza (buried 26/Jun/1787) [Jose Gabriel and Leonor are third cousins once removed through their Ruiz De Esparza lines).

7). They had at least two daughters:

María Gregoria De la Sma (Santísima) Trinidad Rosales y Ruiz De Esparza bap. 18/May/1760

Josepha Gertrudis Rosales y Esparza, bap. 19/Mar/1758

Ick A. Ricci
Source:::book Mygenes2000

Is this the same Lope de Esparza who was married to Ana Francisca de Gabay de Moctezuma, who were parents of Salvador Ruiz de Esparza, born 1595 in Aguascalientes?

Dear Denise,
Thank you for your comments. I am glad that I have been a help to your research.
Wish you the best,

Dear Austin,
Thanks for adding the information to wikitree. Your postings are a great resource for genealogists. Keep up the excellent work.

Best regards,
Rick A. Ricci

Hi Rick

How can we order your book? is it an ebook or paper?

I would like to add it to my library.

Best Regards
Denise

Thank you everyone for this valuable information. Here is Ana Francisca Gabay's- (married to Lope Ruiz de Esparza) death record if needed:

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/61089/MM9.3.1_2FTH-266-11773-144905-84?pid=7936561&backurl=http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D61089%26h%3D7936561%26ssrc%3Dpt%26tid%3D54099292%26pid%3D320048824873%26usePUB%3Dtrue&ssrc=pt&treeid=54099292&personid=320048824873&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true

Cynthia

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