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By dcalonso - Posted on 30 January 2017

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

Im looking for the parents of my ancestors Juan Colunga an Isabel Mendez
probly from Valle de San Francisco, San Luis Potosí where their children
married. i think they were born around 1680 or maybe a little earlier. im
hoping someone else in the group descends from them or has information on
them. thank you

Danny C. Alonso

Hola Danny:

¿Revisaste el padrón del Valle de San Francisco en 1683? Está en el libro Partidos y padrones del Obispado de Michoacán de Alberto Carrillo Cázares que está en Familysearch.

Saludos

Marcelina

Dear Danny,

Here are a few records that may help you in your research of Juan Colunga and Ysabel Mendoza (Mendez)

Colunga

Juan De Colunga
mentioned in the record of Melhora Colunga Mendes
Name Juan De Colunga
Gender Male
Wife Ysabel Mendes
Daughter Melhora Colunga Mendes
Other information in the record of Melhora Colunga Mendes
from Mexico Baptisms
Name Melhora Colunga Mendes
Gender Female
Christening Date 20 Jan 1676
Christening Place SAN FRANCISCO,VILLA DE REYES,SAN LUIS POTOSI,MEXICO
Father's Name Juan De Colunga
Mother's Name Ysabel Mendes
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSC4-7JR : 12 December 2014), Juan De Colunga in entry for Melhora Colunga Mendes, 20 Jan 1676; citing SAN FRANCISCO,VILLA DE REYES,SAN LUIS POTOSI,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 708,516.

Name Jn. De Colunga
Gender Male
Wife Ysabel De Pays
Son Joseph Colunga Pays
Other information in the record of Joseph Colunga Pays
from Mexico Baptisms
Name Joseph Colunga Pays
Gender Male
Christening Date 13 Jan 1673
Christening Place SAN FRANCISCO,VILLA DE REYES,SAN LUIS POTOSI,MEXICO
Father's Name Jn. De Colunga
Mother's Name Ysabel De Pays
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLJD-427 : 12 December 2014), Jn. De Colunga in entry for Joseph Colunga Pays, 13 Jan 1673; citing SAN FRANCISCO,VILLA DE REYES,SAN LUIS POTOSI,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 708,516.

Jn. De Colunga
mentioned in the record of Joseph Colunga Mendes
Name Jn. De Colunga
Gender Male
Wife Ysabel Mendes
Son Joseph Colunga Mendes
Other information in the record of Joseph Colunga Mendes
from Mexico Baptisms
Name Joseph Colunga Mendes
Gender Male
Christening Date 1681
Christening Place SAN FRANCISCO,CHARCAS,SAN LUIS POTOSI,MEXICO
Father's Name Jn. De Colunga
Mother's Name Ysabel Mendes
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLKQ-CQ6 : 12 December 2014), Jn. De Colunga in entry for Joseph Colunga Mendes, 1681; citing SAN FRANCISCO,CHARCAS,SAN LUIS POTOSI,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 707,719.

Jn. De Colunga
mentioned in the record of Roque Colunga Mendes
Name Jn. De Colunga
Gender Male
Wife Ysabel Mendes
Son Roque Colunga Mendes
Other information in the record of Roque Colunga Mendes
from Mexico Baptisms
Name Roque Colunga Mendes
Gender Male
Christening Date 1681
Christening Place SAN FRANCISCO,CHARCAS,SAN LUIS POTOSI,MEXICO
Father's Name Jn. De Colunga
Mother's Name Ysabel Mendes
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NTDH-WP5 : 12 December 2014), Jn. De Colunga in entry for Roque Colunga Mendes, 1681; citing SAN FRANCISCO,CHARCAS,SAN LUIS POTOSI,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 707,719.

Name Joan Colunga Anso
Gender Male
Christening Date 21 Oct 1640
Christening Place EL SAGRARIO,AGUASCALIENTES,AGUASCALIENTES,MEXICO
Father's Name Joan De Colunga Cortes
Mother's Name Gabriela De Anso Y Riba.
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK2P-L8G : 12 December 2014), Joan Colunga Anso, 21 Oct 1640; citing EL SAGRARIO,AGUASCALIENTES,AGUASCALIENTES,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 299,421.

Good luck,
Rick A. Ricci

Here is another record that may help.

Attach to Family Tree
Johan De Colunga Cortes
mentioned in the record of Johan De Colunga Cortes and Gabriela De Anto
Name Johan De Colunga Cortes
Spouse's Name Gabriela De Anto
Event Date 19 Mar 1634
Event Place El Sagrario,Aguascalientes,Aguascalientes,Mexico
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JHPT-4FM : 14 July 2015), Johan De Colunga Cortes and Gabriela De Anto, 19 Mar 1634; citing El Sagrario,Aguascalientes,Aguascalientes,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 299,421.

Joan De Colunga Cortes
Gender Male
Wife Gabriela De Anso Y Riba.
Son Joan Colunga Anso
Other information in the record of Joan Colunga Anso
from Mexico Baptisms
Name Joan Colunga Anso
Gender Male
Christening Date 21 Oct 1640
Christening Place EL SAGRARIO,AGUASCALIENTES,AGUASCALIENTES,MEXICO
Father's Name Joan De Colunga Cortes
Mother's Name Gabriela De Anso Y Riba.
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK2P-L8P : 12 December 2014), Joan De Colunga Cortes in entry for Joan Colunga Anso, 21 Oct 1640; citing EL SAGRARIO,AGUASCALIENTES,AGUASCALIENTES,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 299,421.

Hi Danny,

I'm not familiar with Juan de Colunga or Isabel Mendez or
any Colunga family, but some of the names Rick mentioned are mentioned on
this thread and their connection to the Anzo y Tellez family and the Torres
y Rivera familiy.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.com/es/node/17402?page=1

Paige

On Monday, January 30, 2017, Danny Alonso wrote:

> Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,
>
> Im looking for the parents of my ancestors Juan Colunga an Isabel Mendez
> probly from Valle de San Francisco, San Luis Potosí where their children
> married. i think they were born around 1680 or maybe a little earlier. im
> hoping someone else in the group descends from them or has information on
> them. thank you
>
> Danny C. Alonso

Ysabel Mendoza is the same person as Ysabel Mendez and Ysabel Paez and Ysabel Pays. I have her husband as Juan Colunga y Cortes. His name is often abbreviated Jn. Colunga.

Joan De Colunga Cortes's wife is Gabriela De Anso Y Riba. (Ribera/Rivera) are the parents of Joan Colunga Anso who I believe may be the juan Colunga married to Ysabel Mendoza Paez. (Mendez Pays)
Rick

Juan Colunga and Ysavel Mendez (7th grandparents)

After searching as many Juan Colunga’s within 25 years (1625-1650) in Mexico only the following two fit and they ended up being from the same couple in which they gave their sons the same name just different spelling.

1. Juan Colunga - Bapt. 6 JUN 1636 (Juan De Colunga Cortes + Gabriela De Anso Y Telles) El Sagrario,Aguascalientes,Aguascalientes,Mexico

2. Joan Colunga Anso M3CC-GN3 Bapt. 21 OCT 1640 (Juan De Colunga Cortes + Gabriela De Anso Y Telles) El Sagrario,Aguascalientes,Aguascalientes,Mexico
M: 03 Feb 1668 + Josepha Gonsales El Sagrario,Aguascalientes,Aguascalientes,Mexico

I could not find this couples IM or marriage image to confirm their age, caste and parents.

I semi-merged Ysavel Mendez with Ysavel Pays (Paes) as their son Joseph fit perfectly yesterday.
I read the link sent by Paigeherrera it seems others felt the same way.
Back in October in 2016 I was only able to find Juan de Colunga Cortes and Gabriela de Anso y Telles marriage image in which Pedro Quixas stands in for Juan Colunga.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6QQ9-BHP

thank you everybody. I really appreciate all of your help.
Marcelina, do you have the link to that book Partidos y padrones del
Obispado de Michoacán?

Mr. Ricci thank you for all that information and for putting all the pieces
together. It was very helpful.

Paige i noticed that thread earlier today and Daniel Méndez says hes a
descendant of this family and he is always very knowledgable so he probly
knows how theyre related to the Torres y Rivera family but he didnt mention
it on the thred.

Simona thank you for all your information and especially for finding the
marriage record for Juan de Colunga and Gabriela de Anso

Danny C. Alonso

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 1:22 PM, wrote:

> Juan Colunga and Ysavel Mendez (7th grandparents) After searching as many
> Juan Colunga’s within 25 years (1625-1650) in Mexico only the following two
> fit and they ended up being from the same couple in which they gave their
> sons the same name just different spelling. 1. Juan Colunga - Bapt. 6 JUN
> 1636 (Juan De Colunga Cortes + Gabriela De Anso Y Telles) El
> Sagrario,Aguascalientes,Aguascalientes,Mexico 2. Joan Colunga Anso
> M3CC-GN3
> Bapt. 21 OCT 1640 (Juan De Colunga Cortes + Gabriela De Anso Y Telles) El
> Sagrario,Aguascalientes,Aguascalientes,Mexico M: 03 Feb 1668 + Josepha
> Gonsales El Sagrario,Aguascalientes,Aguascalientes,Mexico I could not find
> this couples IM or marriage image to confirm their age, caste and parents.
> I
> semi-merged Ysavel Mendez with Ysavel Pays (Paes) as their son Joseph fit
> perfectly yesterday. I read the link sent by Paigeherrera it seems others
> felt the same way. Back in October in 2016 I was only able to find Juan de
> Colunga Cortes and Gabriela de Anso y Telles marriage image in which Pedro
> Quixas stands in for Juan Colunga.
> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6QQ9-BHP
>

Dear Danny,

Your welcome. I'm glad that I could help.

Gabriela de Anso y Telles seems to be the same person as Gabriela de Anso y Ribera. The Ribera surname is most likely Torres Ribera. The Telles and Torres may depend on who is reading the record. More research is needed to compare the writings to get the surname right.

Rick A. Ricci

Hi Danny,

In his book Archivos parroquiales de Aguascalientes, Daniel Méndez connects the Colunga family to the Torres y Rivera when he makes reference to three girls named María that were baptized between 1638 and 1640, María (hija de Juan de Colunga Cortés y Gabriela de Anso y Téllez), María (hija de Alonso Pérez de Hortega y Philipa de Anso y Téllez) and María, (hija de Domingo de Iriarte y María de Anso y Téllez). Below are the baptisms for each:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6QQ9-B27
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6QQ9-B6S
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6QQ9-BYM

All of the three María's were baptized by the licenciado Diego de Torres y Rivera and on the margin of each of the baptisms is the licenciado's note after Gabriela de Anso y Téllez, Philipa de Anso y Téllez and María de Anso y Téllez that says "mi sobrina."

Daniel's note regarding this family states, "El beneficiado de la villa de Aguascalientes don Diego de Torres y Rivera era tío carnal de los hermanos Anso y Téllez vía su línea materna. Eran hijos de don Esteban de Anso y Téllez antiguo vecino de la Ciudad de México y N. de Rivera. Esta era hermana del beneficiado Diego de Torres y Rivera dichos hijos de Juan de Torres y Rivera, hijosdalgo y mayorazgo natural de la ciudad de León en los Reinos de Castilla y doña María de la Paz, criolla de la ciudad de Zacatecas"

Chris

Thank up Chris for explaining that the two names Gabriela de Anso y Telles and Gabriela de Anso y Torres Ribera are not mistakes and that Gabriela descends from both the Telles and the de Torres y Rivera families.

Rick

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