Miramontes from Tlaltenango

Did Ysidro and Bernarda have a son named, Teodoro?

Do any of your Miramontes happen to come from a rancho called Rio de
Cuculiten in the Tlaltenango area?

I've updated my folder adding my information on my Miramontes from
Tlaltenango. I haven't done very much research on this line but Arturo Ramos
has written a book on the various families from this area. I've also update
my Leanos and Muro family trees in my folder:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.com/en/makas_nc

Ysidro and my Francisco probably new each other or were even cousins, maybe
we are too.

Joseph

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Joseph Puentes
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 12:09 AM
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> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Miramontes from Tlaltenango
>
> Hello Everyone,
> I know this family line has been talked about before on here.
> I was recently able to trace my great-grandmother's family all the way
back to a Ysidro
> Miramontes who married Bernarda de Avila on
> Jan.21,1709 in Tlaltenango, Zac. The record states his parents are Lorenzo
de Miramontes
> and Maria de Santiago.
> Using the Gedcom database on here I found a Lorenzo Miramontes but he's
married to an
> Ana Diaz de Santiago. The name is somewhat similar and I wonder if they
are the same
> couple. Ysidro Miramontes is not listed in the Tlaltenango Families
database but I believe
> he could be their son. Any helpful information would be appreciated.
>
> Gustavo Carrillo
>
>

Joseph, I will also look at your information. Many of my ancestors come from Coculiten, so hopefully are lineages cross, somewhere. Thanks.

Thank you guys for the replies. I found two or three children
for Ysidro Miramontes and Bernarda de Avila but did not see a
Teodoro so I'm not really sure.
My great-grandmother was born in Coculiten. Her name was
Tomasa Miramontes. She was baptized in Momax, Zac. on
Sep. 20, 1887. Her parents were Juan Miramontes and Refugio
Carlos.

Gustavo

You're welcome. I'll make a mental note of your family, and if I come across your family, I'll let you know. My Miramontes family goes back to the early 1700's, in the same area. Thanks.

That might be Coculiten, Jalisco which I think is closer to Momax, Zacatecas
than Cuculiten, Zacatecas. Not positive about that.

Joseph

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Joseph Puentes
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>
> Thank you guys for the replies. I found two or three children for Ysidro
Miramontes and
> Bernarda de Avila but did not see a Teodoro so I'm not really sure.
> My great-grandmother was born in Coculiten. Her name was Tomasa
Miramontes. She
> was baptized in Momax, Zac. on Sep. 20, 1887. Her parents were Juan
Miramontes and
> Refugio Carlos.
>
> Gustavo

Joseph,
The Coculiten I'm referring to is a ranch that belongs
to the town of Momax, Zac. I believe it used to belong
to Tlaltenango before Momax became it's own municipial
seat back in the 1800's. Anyway, it is located right on
one of the borders of Jalisco and Zacatecas. Where
exactly is yours located?

Gustavo

Well from this map
(http://josephpuentes.com/maps/GoodTepechitlan_Colotlan%20copy.jpg) it
appears as if your Coculiten is in Jalisco but it is probably in Zacatecas.
I think my Cuculiten is really Rio de Cuculiten closer to Tlaltenango but I
can't find it on a map but it is in the Census records for Tlaltenango.

Joseph

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Joseph Puentes
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> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Miramontes
>
> Joseph,
> The Coculiten I'm referring to is a ranch that belongs to the town of
Momax, Zac. I believe
> it used to belong to Tlaltenango before Momax became it's own municipial
seat back in
> the 1800's. Anyway, it is located right on one of the borders of Jalisco
and Zacatecas.
> Where exactly is yours located?
>
> Gustavo

There is a rancho Coculiten due northeast of Momax that borders Jalisco, and my ancestors were born there but baptized in Momax. I wonder if it's part of Coculiten, Jalisco or the border changed over time or was not as defined, before? I will be in Zacatecas in a few weeks and will try to take pictures for all of us. Thanks.

Great, ask if this rancho was once called Rio de Cuculiten or Rio de
Coculiten and yes great question about if the border changed over time and
it was in Jalisco but is now in Zacatecas. Thanks for taking pictures,

Joseph

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Joseph Puentes
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> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rancho de Coculiten
>
> There is a rancho Coculiten due northeast of Momax that borders Jalisco,
and my
> ancestors were born there but baptized in Momax. I wonder if it's part of
Coculiten,
> Jalisco or the border changed over time or was not as defined, before? I
will be in
> Zacatecas in a few weeks and will try to take pictures for all of us.
Thanks.