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By mendezdetorres - Posted on 22 February 2009

Hello All I waondering where can I find or if anyone can do a lookup on the Flores de la Torre and Flores-Alatorre family! I want to know how Flores Alatorre changed from Flores de la Torre. Also, is it true the patriarch Juan López de Elizalde is "hijo legítimo de Miguel López de Elizalde y Leonor de Aberruza"? Many Thanks! -Daniel

Hola Daniel. I have found in old records pertaining to one of my ancestors, that the "Flores Alatorre" and "Flores de la Torre" surnames were used interchangeably. At least, this was the case 1794 and 1821 in Juchipila, Zacatecas.

Archival records pertaining to my 6th GG-father, Nicolas Flores, who served as a judicial official in Juchipila during those years, show both names were used in this period.

Good luck with the rest.

Claudia Reynoso

Daniel,

Thanks for all the valuable information you provide to everyone in the group.

Now in regards to your inquiry, I don't know if this will answer your question below but I recently bought this book from one of the nuestros ranchos members in Escondido Calif. The book is titled Cronica de la Provincia de Santiago de Xalisco, Escrita por. Fr. Nicolas Antonio De Ornelas Mendoza y Valdivia~ 1719-1722. He may be one of your relatives. The book was published in Guadalajara by the Instituto Jaliscience de Antropologia e Historia. INAH 1962.

Pages 59-63 refer to XUCHIPILA, year 1543. There is the following paragraph.

Después que dejó el capitán Juan Delgado le encomienda de el Teul, por sus achaques, la sirvió el capitán Miguel González, el mozo, y este se avenia con mucha amistad con los religiosos y con el encomendero de Xuchipila, que era el señor capitán Hernán de Flores, yerno de el licienciado Diego Pérez de la Torre: y con la ayuda de entreambos, cogieron corriente estas dos doctrinas. Estos mismos pidieron, para la mayor y más segura pacificación de los naturales, misioneros para Tlaltenango y Teocaltiche: y dice el R. P. Tello, que el año de mil quinientos y cuarenta y cuatro se comenzaron a administrar Tlaltenango, Teocaltiche y Xalostitlan por los religiosos que en estas tres partes puso la obediencia: y por haber entrado señores clerigos después a estas doctrinas, no hay memoria ni libros por donde conste quienes fueron. Se avecindaron en Xupichila los señores Flores y de la Torre, Reinosos, Renterias, Tellos de Orozco, Arias: que todos
son de noble sangre y han tenido amistad con los descendientes de el capitán Hernán Flores: de los cuales y otros, hay hasta teecientas personas de razón. Hay en esta doctrina y en los pueblos, Hospitales y cofradias de nuestra Señora de la Concepción fundadas por los religiosos.

As I understand this, Hernán de Flores was the son-in-law of the Honorable, Diego Pérez de la Torre. His children would have been de Flores, Perez de la Torre, if in fact this is the same family or families. I thought I would send this to you to see if it makes sense to you or if you think it might relate to your ancestors.

Regards,
Alicia,
San Jose, Calif.

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From: mendezdelcamino
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Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:03:24 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Retoños de España Tomo II

Hello All I waondering where can I find or if anyone can do a lookup on the Flores de la Torre and Flores-Alatorre family! I want to know how Flores Alatorre changed from Flores de la Torre. Also, is it true the patriarch Juan López de Elizalde is "hijo legítimo de Miguel López de Elizalde y Leonor de Aberruza"? Many Thanks! -Daniel

Thank You Alicia! This does help, really anything with the Flores of this time period is helpful. Actually I dont descend from the Flores per say. I am related by marriage, but I do have some flores back to 1750 in Jalpa which should be Flores de la Torre, because they're español but I need to verify and order films. Most likely theyll be in Nochistlán because Jalpa films lack in this eraly years! I am actually helping Rubén Hernández who descends from the Flores Alatorre( I just found out by Steven and Claudia) THESE ARE THE SAME FAMILIES. Rubén has Diego Flores Alatorre born around 1700 or so married to a gonzález de HErmosillo ( I have told him I do have a speculation, there were only have a handful of Diegos but still need to order films just in case, or easier would be get Retoños Tomo II. -Daniel Méndez del Camino

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