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Solicitation for Assistance for Totatiche Historian/Genealogist

Last month I mentioned that I met with Esteban Valdes Salazar, "cronista" from Totatiche, Jalisco and genealogist who has published a number of very valuable books. He is in the midst of trying to publish a second edition of the now sold out Historia de Totatiche as well as a new book on the genealogy of the Pinedos and Ortegas of Totatiche.

He has transcribed a whole series of early land titles and is the only historian who has seen the old Fransican convent records from Colotlan from the 1600s. He is helping Samuel Sanchez get those filmed as we speak.

Surnames and use of "De"

Welcome to the wonderful world of genealogy! What I'm sharing may
sound very trying but I must tell you the longer you do genealogy
the more satisfaction you get when you work long and hard and your
family is reclaimed after going through many records. I found a
record I'd had for 3 years the key to taking my Gutierrez family
from 1750 in Jalisco to 1650 in Michoacan! At other times I can

New to Group/BORONDA

Hello,
I am new to the ranchos group. My potential link to the
target areas is my ancestor Jose(f) Manuel BORONDA. It
has been said that he was born in Jerez, in Guadalajara,
and in Spain. So far there is no proof of any of this.
He would have been born about 1750. It is documented that
he came to California in 1769. He married Maria Gertrudis
HIGUERA at Mission San Carlos in Monterey, California on

Digest Number 760

Hi,   Thank you for the info, I have already saw this infor, but like you noticed, the name of the woman is different, thats why i didn't pay much attention on it.   You say that that is not uncommon?, can you explain me a little bit? I've just started to search my genealogy and there are a lot of things that i haven' understand at all!   Thank you § have a great day!!   Monica

ranchos@yahoogroups.com wrote: There are 2 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. [Nuestros Ranchos] Juan De La Rosa and Narcisa
From: arturoramos
2. Re: New to the group
From: Peggy Delgado

To add or not to add "DE" in a surname?

Yolanda:

I guess the answer to your question depends on the software that you are using. I use an online database called The Next Generation that allows you to enter the "DE" or "DE LOS" or "DE LA" in a seperate field from the main surname such that when you search or sort by surname these are not taken into account.

When I import the GEDCOM from this software into PAF, I get the same problem that you do... a bunch of people end up under the letter "D" and I forget to look for them there.

TO ADD OR NOT TO ADD "DE" IN A SURNAME?

HOW DO RANCHOS MEMBERS HANDLE THIS, IT HAS BECOME A CONFUSING DILEMA
FOR ME. I PUT IN ROBALCAVA AND FOR HIS DAUGHTER I FIND HER AS DE
ROBALCAVA....I LATER CAN'T FIND HER UNTIL I REMEMBER TO LOOK
UNDER "DE". I NEED SOME GUIDANCE FROM YOU EXPERIENCED GENEALOGISTS.
MIXED-UP IN EL PASO YOLANDA MEDINA PEREZ

Nuestra Familia Unida Update 02-16-2006



its been awhile since i did a notice of what
was new on the Nuestra Familia Unida Podcast. Here is a new feature
that lists all audio on the site:

Juan De La Rosa and Narcisa

Monica:

There are some interesting entries in the familysearch website for potential matches to the family you are looking for. The mother's surname does not match, but that is not as uncommon as you may think.

JUAN DE LA ROSA
Male
Marriages:
Spouse: NARCISA ACOSTA Family
Marriage: 28 OCT 1872 Fresnillo De Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas, Mexico
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

New to the group

Hi, Mu name is Monica Medina, i'm mexican currently living in
Montpellier, France.

I've started my genealogical research and I have roots in Zacatecas,
this are the names:

Ines de la Rosa Sandoval (my greatgrand mother) was daugther of Juan
de la Rosa and Narcisa Sandoval. They come from Fresnillo, Zacatecas
I haven't found more information on dates, but I keep on researching.

Also, for the family of my mom I know that Ontiveros surname comes

Southern California meeting-- Important Reminder!

The RSVP deadline (the 15th) is looming for the first Southern
California Ranchos Meeting. You still have an opportunity to
respond-- and please do so. I want the meeting to be a great
success. Some had responded months ago stating that they would like
to attend, but I haven't heard from them since. Maybe you never
mentioned that you would like to attend, but now you realize that
February 25th is doable.

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