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By Abraham - Posted on 03 October 2019

I would go for a long i ( your second choice), but then that's how we (mexicans) pronounce it now, heavens knows how they did it back then.
Abraham de Alba

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 14:46:38 -0700
From: Laurel Anne Hill
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Need help with correct pronunciation of
    family name Orendain
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I am having an audiobook produced, dedicated to my great-grandmother,
Hipolita Orendain de Medina. I need to know the correct Spanish
pronunciation of "Orendain." I've gone to a variety of resources online,
but they don't all agree. I have no contact with any living relatives in
Mexico. Is the "dain" part of the name pronounced similar to the English
"dain" (long a sound), "dine" (long i sound) or "dean/deen" (long e sound)
? And where should the accent mark fall?

I truly would appreciate your assistance.

Thank you,
Laurel Anne Hill

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Message: 2
Date: Tue,  1 Oct 2019 18:39:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: pavendano@earthlink.net
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Two Diego de Alcocer
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Hi Rick, I see ?hermano?. I am however a novice in reading old
manuscript. I?ve asked a few people including historians and credible
genealogists and they concur. Maybe others can weigh in? I see: ?QUE EL
DOCTOR JUAN D?AZ DE ALCOCER DEL NUESTRO CONSEJO VUESTRO HERMANO... ? In
this immediate family there are many Diego?s and a few Pedro?s so I?m
not surprised that people easily get them confused and much of my research is
in secondary resources since Not everything is online and I?m in
California. According to Los Conversos y la Inquisicion Sevillana by Juan Gil
v. 3, page 206-211. Dr. Juan Diaz de Alcocer was the Brother of Diego Alcocer
(married to Blanca). Other brothers include 1. Fernando married to Gracia de
Prado ( I think the Prado Madrid fam) 2. Pedro Gonzalez de Alcocer
Coincidently, in vol. 5 p. 394 of this book series it lists Pedro de Toledo
married to Beatriz Fernandez, parents of Blanca Nunez is listed in reference
to Beatriz testamento in 1508 where she requests to be buried in San
Bartolom? ( juder?a Sevilla) and names her children. 1. Rodrigo de Toledo
2. Garcia de la Torre 3. Blanca Nunez , mujer del jurado Diego de Alcocer.
I?d be interested to know anything u would like to share on Pedro de
Toledo. My research so far encompasses the alcocers including Maria Ortiz
their mother but I?ve barely scratched the surface if Blanca. Best, Maven

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Date: Tue,  1 Oct 2019 18:58:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: pavendano@earthlink.net
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Guadalajara Entierros
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Hi Sus, This is great. Thank you for sharing. I found my many times gg
greatfather hernando Frias recorded. Best, Maven

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I would go for a long i ( your second choice), but then that's how we (mexicans) pronounce it now, heavens knows how they did it back then.
Abraham de Alba

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Today's Topics:

  1. Need help with correct pronunciation of family name Orendain
      (Laurel Anne Hill)
  2. Two Diego de Alcocer (pavendano@earthlink.net)
  3. Guadalajara Entierros (pavendano@earthlink.net)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 14:46:38 -0700
From: Laurel Anne Hill
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Need help with correct pronunciation of
    family name Orendain
Message-ID:
   
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I am having an audiobook produced, dedicated to my great-grandmother,
Hipolita Orendain de Medina. I need to know the correct Spanish
pronunciation of "Orendain." I've gone to a variety of resources online,
but they don't all agree. I have no contact with any living relatives in
Mexico. Is the "dain" part of the name pronounced similar to the English
"dain" (long a sound), "dine" (long i sound) or "dean/deen" (long e sound)
? And where should the accent mark fall?

I truly would appreciate your assistance.

Thank you,
Laurel Anne Hill

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Tue,  1 Oct 2019 18:39:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: pavendano@earthlink.net
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Two Diego de Alcocer
Message-ID:
   
   
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Hi Rick, I see ?hermano?. I am however a novice in reading old
manuscript. I?ve asked a few people including historians and credible
genealogists and they concur. Maybe others can weigh in? I see: ?QUE EL
DOCTOR JUAN D?AZ DE ALCOCER DEL NUESTRO CONSEJO VUESTRO HERMANO... ? In
this immediate family there are many Diego?s and a few Pedro?s so I?m
not surprised that people easily get them confused and much of my research is
in secondary resources since Not everything is online and I?m in
California. According to Los Conversos y la Inquisicion Sevillana by Juan Gil
v. 3, page 206-211. Dr. Juan Diaz de Alcocer was the Brother of Diego Alcocer
(married to Blanca). Other brothers include 1. Fernando married to Gracia de
Prado ( I think the Prado Madrid fam) 2. Pedro Gonzalez de Alcocer
Coincidently, in vol. 5 p. 394 of this book series it lists Pedro de Toledo
married to Beatriz Fernandez, parents of Blanca Nunez is listed in reference
to Beatriz testamento in 1508 where she requests to be buried in San
Bartolom? ( juder?a Sevilla) and names her children. 1. Rodrigo de Toledo
2. Garcia de la Torre 3. Blanca Nunez , mujer del jurado Diego de Alcocer.
I?d be interested to know anything u would like to share on Pedro de
Toledo. My research so far encompasses the alcocers including Maria Ortiz
their mother but I?ve barely scratched the surface if Blanca. Best, Maven

------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Tue,  1 Oct 2019 18:58:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: pavendano@earthlink.net
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Guadalajara Entierros
Message-ID:
   
   
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Hi Sus, This is great. Thank you for sharing. I found my many times gg
greatfather hernando Frias recorded. Best, Maven

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Also, the single "r" is not rolled. The double "rr" is rolled.

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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Orendain pron

I would go for a long i ( your second choice), but then that's how we (mexicans) pronounce it now, heavens knows how they did it back then.
Abraham de Alba

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Today's Topics:

1. Need help with correct pronunciation of family name Orendain
(Laurel Anne Hill)
2. Two Diego de Alcocer (pavendano@earthlink.net)
3. Guadalajara Entierros (pavendano@earthlink.net)

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 14:46:38 -0700
From: Laurel Anne Hill
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Need help with correct pronunciation of
family name Orendain
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I am having an audiobook produced, dedicated to my great-grandmother,
Hipolita Orendain de Medina. I need to know the correct Spanish
pronunciation of "Orendain." I've gone to a variety of resources online,
but they don't all agree. I have no contact with any living relatives in
Mexico. Is the "dain" part of the name pronounced similar to the English
"dain" (long a sound), "dine" (long i sound) or "dean/deen" (long e sound)
? And where should the accent mark fall?

I truly would appreciate your assistance.

Thank you,
Laurel Anne Hill

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 18:39:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: pavendano@earthlink.net
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Two Diego de Alcocer
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Hi Rick, I see ?hermano?. I am however a novice in reading old
manuscript. I?ve asked a few people including historians and credible
genealogists and they concur. Maybe others can weigh in? I see: ?QUE EL
DOCTOR JUAN D?AZ DE ALCOCER DEL NUESTRO CONSEJO VUESTRO HERMANO... ? In
this immediate family there are many Diego?s and a few Pedro?s so I?m
not surprised that people easily get them confused and much of my research is
in secondary resources since Not everything is online and I?m in
California. According to Los Conversos y la Inquisicion Sevillana by Juan Gil
v. 3, page 206-211. Dr. Juan Diaz de Alcocer was the Brother of Diego Alcocer
(married to Blanca). Other brothers include 1. Fernando married to Gracia de
Prado ( I think the Prado Madrid fam) 2. Pedro Gonzalez de Alcocer
Coincidently, in vol. 5 p. 394 of this book series it lists Pedro de Toledo
married to Beatriz Fernandez, parents of Blanca Nunez is listed in reference
to Beatriz testamento in 1508 where she requests to be buried in San
Bartolom? ( juder?a Sevilla) and names her children. 1. Rodrigo de Toledo
2. Garcia de la Torre 3. Blanca Nunez , mujer del jurado Diego de Alcocer.
I?d be interested to know anything u would like to share on Pedro de
Toledo. My research so far encompasses the alcocers including Maria Ortiz
their mother but I?ve barely scratched the surface if Blanca. Best, Maven

------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 18:58:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: pavendano@earthlink.net
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Guadalajara Entierros
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Hi Sus, This is great. Thank you for sharing. I found my many times gg
greatfather hernando Frias recorded. Best, Maven

------------------------------

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