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By cherna - Posted on 18 June 2019

Hi Everyone,

After finding my correct family line, I've come to conclude the following:

My GGreat-Grandfather was Guadalupe Hernandez (Born ~1837), married to Cirila Gonzalez.

My GGGreat-Grandfather was Jose Maria Hernandez (Born ~1810 in Carrizal), married to Valentina Padilla

My GGGGreat-Grandfather was Ignacio Hernandez, married to Gertrudis Hernandez

This is where thing start to get a little blurry for me. I have records that suggest that Ignacio and Gertrudis had at least three sons (probably more), Jose Maria, Hilario (Ylario?), and Pedro Jose de Guadalupe.

I found a baptism record for a Jose Maria de Jesus Hernandez Hernandez (Very last record on the right side, continues onto slide# 158) with no grand-parents listed. Is this normal? Was it intentional or accidental?

Here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-VP99-M1?i=156&cc=1874591

I also found a record for a Jose Ylario de Jesus Hernandez Hernandez, also no grand parents listed.

Here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-FM91-Q6?i=439&cc=1874591

Lastly, a record for a Pedro Jose De Guadalupe Hernandez Hernandez, which does list paternal grandparents, that I can hardly make out as Juan Ignacio Hernandez y Ana(?) Maria(?) Orozco? Can anyone give a second opinion?

Here: (Last on the left page)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-F99B-35?i=522&cc=1874591

Does anyone have anything about this family they can share?

Gracias primos,

Carlos

Hello Carlos,

Here is a record that you may want to check out:

Gregorio de Jesus Hernandez Rodriguez
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 19 Nov 1808
Event Place Santa María de Guadalupe, Arandas, Jalisco, Mexico
Gender Male
Father's Name Jose Maria Hernandez
Mother's Name Ysavel Rodriguez
Paternal Grandfather's Name Juan Ygnacio Hernandez
Paternal Grandmother's Name Ana Maria Orosco
Maternal Grandfather's Name Juan Francisco Rodriguez
Maternal Grandmother's Name Maria Petronila Nunez
Citing this Record
México, Jalisco, registros parroquiales, 1590-1979, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK72-KX8Q : 8 March 2018), Juan Ygnacio Hernandez in entry for Gregorio de Jesus Hernandez Rodriguez, 19 Nov 1808; citing Baptism, Santa María de Guadalupe, Arandas, Jalisco, Mexico, parroquias Católicas Jalisco (Catholic Church parishes, Jalisco); FHL microfilm 279,529.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-VP9M-HL?i=213&cc=1874591

Check out this family tree:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/M34W-TNR

Name: Ygnacio Hernandez
Spouse's Name Maria Gertrudis Hernandez Tovar
Event Date 08 Nov 1778
Event Place Santa Catarina Martir,Santa Catarina-Mexico Ciudad,Distrito Federal,Mexico
Father's Name Calistro Hernandez
Mother's Name Maria Claudia Fragoso
Spouse's Father's Name Jose Joaquin Tovar
Spouse's Mother's Name Maria Dolores Hernandez
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JZKC-YC6 : 10 February 2018), Ygnacio Hernandez and Maria Gertrudis Hernandez Tovar, 08 Nov 1778; citing Santa Catarina Martir,Santa Catarina-Mexico Ciudad,Distrito Federal,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 36,030.

Name Jose Miguel Ylario Hernandez Hernandez
Gender Male
Christening Date 06 Nov 1796
Christening Place SANTA MARIA DE GUADALUPE, ARANDAS, JALISCO, MEXICO
Father's Name Juan Ygnacio Hernandez
Mother's Name Maria Gertrudis Hernandez
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NTMC-2H1 : 10 February 2018), Juan Ygnacio Hernandez in entry for Jose Miguel Ylario Hernandez Hernandez, 06 Nov 1796; citing SANTA MARIA DE GUADALUPE, ARANDAS, JALISCO, MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 297,527.

I believe that this is the family tree that you are looking for:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/MS7P-Z13

Jose Maria De Jesus Hernandez
Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
Name:
Jose Maria De Jesus Hernandez
Gender:
Male
Christening Date:
04 Dec 1807
Christening Place: SANTA MARIA DE GUADALUPE, ARANDAS, JALISCO, MEXICO
Father's Name:
Ygnacio Hernandez
Mother's Name:Maria Gertrudis Hernandez

"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NB9F-PLZ : 10 February 2018), Jose Maria De Jesus Hernandez, 04 Dec 1807; citing SANTA MARIA DE GUADALUPE, ARANDAS, JALISCO, MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 279,529.

Rick A. Ricci

Rick,

Thank you so much. You are a gift to this community.

This family/tree matches what I have. I had a sneaking suspicion I descend from the Hernandez-Gamiño family line. This confirms it.

I have a few records for children of Jose Maria de Jesús that seem to be missing. I'll add them in.

Again, thank you so much!

Carlos

Carlos,

I’m glad I was able to help you. I also descend from the Hernandez Gamiño family..

Thank you,
Rick A. Ricci

Carlos,

Here is some information on the ancestry of María Valentina Padilla:

María Valentina Padilla is the daughter of Pablo Padilla and María De San Jose Ornelas.

Pablo Padilla is the son of Jose Thomas Padilla and Josefa Hernandez

José Thomas Padilla is the son of Jose Antonio Padilla and María Antonia Macias

José Antonio Padilla is the son of Jose Blas Padilla and Josefa de Moya

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Padilla-351

Pablo Padilla
Spouse's Name Maria San Jose Ornelas
Event Date 20 Jun 1812
Event Place Tepatitlan De Morelos,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name Tomas Padilla
Mother's Name Josefa Hernandes
Spouse's Father's Name Jose Ornelas
Spouse's Mother's Name Maria Nieves De La Torre
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCFS-M45 : 10 February 2018), Pablo Padilla and Maria San Jose Ornelas, 20 Jun 1812; citing Tepatitlan De Morelos,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 218,519

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/9Q8N-L1T

Jose Thomas Padilla
Spouse's Name Maria Josefa Hernandez
Event Date 14 May 1788
Event Place Tepatitlan De Morelos,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name Jose Antonio Padilla
Mother's Name Antonia Macias
Spouse's Father's Name Anselmo Hernandez
Spouse's Mother's Name Maria Rita Garcia
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCFS-YRJ : 10 February 2018), Jose Thomas Padilla and Maria Josefa Hernandez, 14 May 1788; citing Tepatitlan De Morelos,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 218,519

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LCJ4-JTR

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LHP2-XYN

José Antonio Padilla
BIRTH 4 January 1738
Ayo el Chico, Ayotlan, Nueva Galicia, Nueva Espana, now Jalisco,Mexico
DEATH 9 October 1808
Ayo el Chico, Ayotlan, Nueva Galicia, Nueva Espan

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LHP2-XYN

Hope this helps your research,
Rick A. Ricci

Carlos,

You descend from the Hernandez Gamino family numerous times through intermarriage. This is how you descend from the Hernandez Gamino through the ancestry of María Valentina Padilla who is a distant cousin of her husband, José María Hernández.

1. Domingo Hernández Gamino married to Juana Gómez de Espejo, and are the parents of
2. Cristobal Hernandez Gamino y Gómez de Espejo married to María de Los Angeles Ruiz De Haro y Velasco and are the parents of
3. Diego Hernandez Gamino married to Gertrudis Casilllas Cabrera Mendoza Torres and are the parents of
4. Jacinta Hernández Gamino married to Christobal Macias Valadez and are the parents of
5. Juana Antonia De San Jose Macias married to Jose Antonio Padilla Moya and parents of
6. Jose Thomas Padilla married to Josefa Hernandez, and are the parents of
7. Pablo Padilla married to María De San Jose Ornelas, and are the parents of
8. María Valentina Padilla married to José María de Jesús Hernández

Rick A. Ricci

Rick,

Wow, I had not yet started to dig that far into Maria Valentina Padilla. Thank you so much. I'll add this information to my tree. I guess it was/is fairly commonplace since Los Hernandez-Gamino multiplied greatly.

Rick,

I'm hoping you can help me out here. I cannot seem to find the baptism record for my GGreat-Grandfather, Guadalupe Hernandez. Son of Jose Maria Hernandez-Gamino, and Maria Valentina Padilla. I'm wondering if you have it in your records by chance.

I can assume he was born in 1837-1840, from records I have (which I can share with you, at your request).

He was married to Cirila Gonzalez. They married on May 28th 1870 in Arandas, Jalisco. To my knowledge, they had at least five (5) children:

-Cristobal Hernandez (Born 1871)
-Sabino Hernandez (Born 1876 (My Great-Grandfather))
-Pablo Hernandez (Born 1880)
-Andres Hernandez (Born 1886
-Maria Hernandez (Born 1891)

I believe he passed away December 16 1889.

Thank you,

Carlos

Carlos,

I have not been able to find the baptismal record of Guadalupe Hernandez. In most cases, names like Guadalupe, Trinidad or Dolores are middle names so it is harder to find their records because we don’t know their first names. It is important to look closely at all known records to see if you can find any additional clues as to the complete name. The easiest strategy is to start with Jose, Josef, Joseph, or J. as the first name.

If he was named after his uncle, then we should be looking for another baptismal record with the name Pedro Jose de Guadalupe Hernandez.

Good luck in your research,
Thank you,
Rick A. Ricci

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