Moctezuma II descendientes

Hi Rachel,

After reading through the Guillermo Padilla Origel piece that you cited, I think I can see the source of some of the contradictions. Except for maybe the land titles, almost everything he says about the Ortiz de Saavedra’s is incorrect. I’ve read other articles by Padilla Origel in the past, and he seems to get people with the same names mixed up. It makes me wonder if he ever backed up his work with documentation, or did any cross referencing? Catalina Muñoz was not a Muñoz de Jerez: as established in the orders of her son, Diego Ortiz “el Mozo,” she was daughter of Francisco Muñoz and Luisa de Nava. The Muñoz de Jerez of Lagos descend from Luisa de Nava’s sister, Catalina Lopez, who was married to Rodrigo Muñoz de Jerez. And Diego Ortiz and Catalina Muñoz did have a daughter named Maria Ortiz de Saavedra, but she was married to Fernando de Costilla y Espinosa, and not to Alonso Sanchez Bañales and Mateo de Villanueva. The one who married them was her cousin, Maria Ortiz de Parada, daughter of Lazaro Ortiz de Parada and Catalina de Ulloa. I have all of this sourced & documented, and it’ll probably correspond with other trees you see out there.

I hope that helps!
Manny Diez Hermosillo

Hi Rick,

That is awesome!!
Would you provide a link to the source, name or more information so I/others can review it as well? Or send me the document file if you have it?

Petronila is my 12x great-grandmother.

Thanks much for any help you may give me,
Terri