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Beatriz Delgado - wife of Pedro Calderon Solano and Antonio de Castro

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By andrea_e - Posted on 24 August 2018

Hello fellow researchers

I'm waiting for my mtDNA results and while I wait I'm trying to see if I can get my maternal line back a little bit further.

The earliest mother's mother's mother I can document using Family Search films is Beatriz Delgado, Spanish, born about 1595. She's the mother of Francisca de Rodas and Catalina Ponce who married in Tlaltenango. Both daughters are in my direct line, but my maternal line goes back through Catalina.

1636 - Francisca de Rodas with Rodrigo de Castro (left side entry has the parents)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-BR9M-FN?i=47&wc=3PS7-7MS%3A147469801%2C147469802%2C159862401&cc=1804458

1648 - Catalina Ponce and Manuel de Viera
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-BR1Y-P?i=101&cc=1804458

Apparently, Pedro Calderon Solano passed away and Beatriz remarried with Antonio de Castro. I've read the online Tlaltenango marriage film and found nothing else relating to them, unless I missed it due to the hard-to-read handwriting. I don't believe Beatriz and Antonio de Castro had children.

Before I knew she was my ancestor, and back when I had an Ancestry free trial, I saw several trees which had Antonio de Castro (father of Rodrigo) married to a BRIGIDA Delgado about 1624 or 1634. Her parents were said to be Luis Delgado and Ana Flores Rubin from Guadalajara. It's Ancestry, so all the info looked copied from other trees and there were no real sources that I remember. But I see in the gedcom Luis Delgado and JUANA Flroes from Guadalajara with a son Juan Delgado Flores married in the 1630s in Tlaltenango. I was wondering if the info about Brigida/Beatriz came from anyone here or if anyone knew anything about a Brigida or Beatriz or had any sources to point to about her parentage or anything else that might help.

I know there was a Beatriz Delgado married to Martin Gonzales a generation or so earlier, so this one probably fits in there somehow.

Thanks in advance for any help
~ Andrea

Thank you so much for the link, Manny! I've got a death date for Pedro of 20 Nov 1630 so that narrows down my search through these films you've directed me to. I did see on various trees that Francisco Calderon Solano and Francisca Jimenez Altamirano had a Pedro, but usually with mentions that he died celibate a bit earlier. I don't know if he could have had a son at some point or if my Pedro is a nephew, but thank you for providing a source to check out, since I didn't see any.

And for anyone with Rodrigo de Castro or his descendants . . . I haven't seen the name of his mother (Antonio de Castro's first wife) mentioned anywhere. Evidently, she died a few weeks after Pedro Calderon Solano.

31 Dec 1630 Juana Ramirez, Spanish, wife of Antonio de Castro, Spanish, resident of Tlaltenango
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-YYHK-B?i=160&cc=1804458

Hi, I came across a family search record and it makes several mentions of two sisters, Catharina Ponce and Beatriz Ponce, and was wondering if there was any relation to the Catalina Ponce mentioned in this thread.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-6594-SD?i=6&cc=1874591

Thanks
Ruben

Hi Ruben

These two women are the daughters of the Catalina Ponce in this thread. I also descend from the younger Catalina Ponce and her husband Diego Gonzalez, and I think Beatriz even calls herself Beatriz Delgado on one of her children's baptisms, after her grandmother.

The witness in this dispensation, Nicolas de Sandoval, is the son of Juana Ponce and Francisco de Sandoval. He says the groom-to-be is his "sobrino segundo" so Beatriz (and her sister Catalina) would have to be his aunts, Juana's sisters. These two sisters must have been married in Teul because I think they're the only children of Manuel Geronimo de Viera and Catalina Ponce I haven't seen marriage records for.

- Andrea

Thank you for the information Andrea.
I also came across this baptismo record listing a "Beatriz Delgado" whose parents are A??(illegible) Delgado and Catharina Lopez. The time frame seems in the range (1585), but there is not enough evidence to make a connection. Any thoughts?

Thanks
Ruben

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939Z-RHJY-B?i=872&cc=1615259

right hand side, bottom record

Good find! I think the name of the father is Alonso? It's hard to say whether these Delgados are of any relation to the ones showing up later in Tlaltenango, but it is definitely something to investigate.

Searching these baptism records has revealed the parents of some of the other Delgados in Tlaltenango in this time frame. I didn't see them in the gedcom so I thought I would post in case anyone needs them.

1. The parents of the Beatriz Delgado m. Diego de Molina are Pedro Albertis and Ysabel Garcia
(baptism of their son Sebastian) - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-T49T-L1?i=93&wc=MC789Z3%3A147469801%2C147469802%2C147469803&cc=1804458
The Ysabel Albertis married to Francisco de Molina must be another daughter

2. The Magdalena Delgado m. Juan Gallardo is the daughter of Luis Felix Delgado and Juana Bautista (Saucedo? who according to the great posts in the Ancestry of Maria de Haro y Saucedo thread is a sister of the Maria de Saucedo m. Juan de Miramontes)
(baptism of daughter Josepha) - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-T49T-XR?i=42&cc=1804458
(confirmation of Luis and Juana's daughter xxina? Catalina? top left) - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-T49R-R6?i=181&wc=MC78-9Z3%3A147469801%2C147469802%2C147469803&cc=1804458

3. Magdalena has a brother Pedro Delgado m. to a Maria Garcia de Roldan
(Baptism of Josepha Rivera Solis) - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-T49T-PZ?i=21&cc=1804458
I seem to have misplaced the link, but Pedro and Maria appear as padrinos for a child of Xptobal/Cristobal Garcia de Roldan and Agustina de Chavez. Maria Garcia is the aunt of the child.

Hopefully that helps someone related to these other couples

And finally evidence Ponce is indeed Ponce de Leon
(baptism of Gabriela Gertrudis Sanchez Castellanos - I descend from her sister Rita and Alejandro Mayorga Carlos)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-BMFJ-N?i=48&cc=1804458

~ Andrea

Searching these baptism records has revealed the parents of some of the other Delgados in Tlaltenango in this time frame. I didn't see them in the gedcom so I thought I would post in case anyone needs them.

1. The parents of the Beatriz Delgado m. Diego de Molina are Pedro Albertis and Ysabel Garcia
(baptism of their son Sebastian) - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-T49T-L1?i=93&wc=MC789Z3%3A147469801%2C147469802%2C147469803&cc=1804458
The Ysabel Albertis married to Francisco de Molina must be another daughter

2. The Magdalena Delgado m. Juan Gallardo is the daughter of Luis Felix Delgado and Juana Bautista (Saucedo? who according to the great posts in the Ancestry of Maria de Haro y Saucedo thread is a sister of the Maria de Saucedo m. Juan de Miramontes)
(baptism of daughter Josepha) - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-T49T-XR?i=42&cc=1804458
(confirmation of Luis and Juana's daughter xxina? Catalina? top left) - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-T49R-R6?i=181&wc=MC78-9Z3%3A147469801%2C147469802%2C147469803&cc=1804458

3. Magdalena has a brother Pedro Delgado m. to a Maria Garcia de Roldan
(Baptism of Josepha Rivera Solis) - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-T49T-PZ?i=21&cc=1804458
I seem to have misplaced the link, but Pedro and Maria appear as padrinos for a child of Xptobal/Cristobal Garcia de Roldan and Agustina de Chavez. Maria Garcia is the aunt of the child.

Hopefully that helps someone related to these other couples

And finally evidence Ponce is indeed Ponce de Leon
(baptism of Gabriela Gertrudis Sanchez Castellanos - I descend from her sister Rita and Alejandro Mayorga Carlos)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-BMFJ-N?i=48&cc=1804458

~ Andrea

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