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By Leon de Tejada - Posted on 04 July 2018

A few months ago my book about the Reynoso was made available in Amazon and it includes a chapter about Nueva Galicia. Here is the link if someone is interested.

https://www.amazon.com/Casa-Reynoso-Estudio-castellano-Spanish/dp/1985572753/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1530744795&sr=1-1

Best regards,

Congratulations on your book. Look forward to reading it.
Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci

Thank you Rick; I pray you find it interesting. I look forward to yours, I have been reading your posts giving us glimpses of what is to come and I am one person more of those that want to buy it as soon as it comes out. Please keep us updated.

Best regards,

Dear Erik,

I descend from Francisco Reynoso y Rico five times through three of my grandparents. In my records I had only gone as far back as his parents, so you can see why I am eagerly awaiting your book. In my own research I did find some information connecting the Reynoso’s to the Jewish conversó Herrera family that also comes to Nueva Galicia.

I have also done some research on your Palomar family as I researched the ancestors of Maria Cristina G Palomar y Verea who is a third cousin of your paternal grandmother Bertha Palomar y Aspe. I have done much of Cristina’s family tree for many generations except for her paternal grandmother Genevieve (Genoveva) Loriot who was born in Aug or Sep 1896-1898 in France. I only have Genevieve’s mother as R. Damremoat.

Maria Cristina G Palomar y Verea descends from the Palomar family through both her parents and is more closely related to you through her mother’s Palomar branch of the family. Have you thought about writing a book about your Palomar side of the family? I will have a Chapter about them in my book.

I will let you know when my book comes out.
Thank you,
Rick A. Ricci

Dear Rick:

Thank you so much, I think there are some points about conversos that may also interest you in the book. The merchant Francisco de Reynoso Medina (who belonged to the line of Boadilla de Rioseco and had Villacorta as first last name) requested for his son Fernando de Reynoso Angulo the "hábito" of an order of knighthood however it never proceeded and he was made Alferez of Mexico City instead. I wondered why but a finding of the researcher Jorge Barba Gómez had the answer (Tribunal del Santo Oficio Lisboa, Proc. 7722 09.2.1629): it turns out that the sister of Francisco de Reynoso Medina, Beatriz de Reynoso who was born in 1569 in Viseu, Portugal was condemned as "cristiana nueva acusada de judaísmo" and was sent to jail with her husband Diogo Nunes Neto (2th September, 1626). Following her lineage it turns out that her mother, Luisa Clara de Medina who was born in Viseu may have been jewish.

About the Palomar family, yes, I would love to. Last year I contacted the Real Maestranza de Caballería de Zaragoza because three of the Palomar in the 16th C (Juan Miguel, Miguel and Baltasar de Palomar) belonged to that institution when it was the Cofradía de Caballeros de San Jorge and the interesting part is that they are apparently related to the Lords of Argavieso. I don't know how yet, in the Real Maestranza they told me that there is documentation relating them to the Gil de Gurrea Palomar or Gil de Palomar who at some point were descendants of the "de la Cavallería", a lineage that you have studied extensively. Your book will make my library richer, I look forward to read, learn and enjoy it.

Best,

Dear Erik,

Instead of writing my book, I spent much time this summer researching what I had already discovered, looking for pieces to support, or disprove my previous work. I believe that I had a successful summer in that I made many many finds that supported my previous research.

I had felt that I did not make a “big new find” this summer, but there was a giant addition to my family tree thanks to you. The addition of your book to my library has been a wonderful surprise this summer. On second thought, your book was the “big new find” of this summer. I was able to connect your Reynoso research to many of the families that I have been researching in Spain.

Due to the time taken up by my work on other lines, I had not done much research on my Reynoso line. I have, however, done much research on the families that you connect the Reynoso’s to in your book. “Much research” on these families as I also connect them to some of my other ancestors like the Villaseñor, De Tovar, Ruiz De Esparza, and Ramírez Arellano, Lopez De Ayala, among others.

In my research I did have a different mother for Rodrigo Rodriguez De Escobar. I didn’t have her as Maria Martinez De Trujillo. I had his mother as Maria Beatriz Osorio De Villalobos. I do have the father as Alvar Rodriguez De Escobar, Señor de Escobar de Campos. I have him as VI Señor de Escobar de Campos, and as Señor de Autillo de Campos. Autillo was smaller while “De Campos” signified a larger region. I wonder if I have merged two different Alvar Rodriguez De Escobars with sons named Rodrigo Rodriguez De Escobar. But the time frame fits and the associations with other families are the same. I can think of three possibilities for this discrepancy. First, that Alvar Rodríguez de Escobar possibly had two wives. A second possibility would be squeezing in a generation where the Alvar Rodriguez De Escobar married to Maria Beatriz Osorio De Villalobos is father to the Alvar Rodriguez De Escobar married to Maria Martinez De Trujillo. This squeezing in a generation would be a tight fit and is only speculation as there is no other evidence other than that we have two different women as the mother of Alvar Rodriguez de Escobar’s son Rodrigo Rodriguez de Escobar. The third possibility would be that Alvar Rodriguez De Escobar only had María Martinez de Trujillo as a wife and that my records had an error as I had her as Maria Beatriz Osorio De Villalobos.

The ancestry of Alvar Rodriguez De Escobar, Señor de Escobar de Campos, reveals that his great great grandmother is named Elvira Ruiz Cabeza De Vaca which may explain the “Cabeza De Vaca” surname popping up in“Reynoso Cabeza De Vaca”

Your book also brought up a big question that keeps popping up in my research, what is the exact relationship between Juana Garcia De Leyva and Sancho Martinez De Leyva? Is he her grandfather? Or great grandfather? The two things that I found this summer regarding them is that Sancho Martinez De Leyva was illegitimate, but that he was recognized, and that Juana Garcia De Leyva was recognized as a descendant of his. But the exact relationship still eludes me.

My father-in-law also descends twice from Francisco Reynoso Rico, so my daughter descends from Francisco De Reynoso Rico seven times.

The Jewish connection was one that connected the Jewish Herreras to the Padilla Davila. I did not find any Jewish ancestors of Francisco Reynoso y Rico. The Herrera ancestors of the Reynoso were not the Jewish Herreras. The Padilla ancestral branch of the Reynosos in Nueva Galicia were primarily Jewish conversos, some of them converting many years before while others were recent converts. The first person to die in the Americas by order of the inquisition was a Padilla. The Padilla’s have some common ancestors with the Jewish conversó Herrera family that left many descendants in Nueva Galicia. This common ancestor of the Herrera and Padilla was a source of pride for the family as he was very wealthy. Looking at inquisition records revealed that some members of the Reynoso family were tried by the inquisition for “Luteranismo” (Protestants).

I find it very interesting that the Palomar family can be traced to the Cavalleria family. I don’t descend from the Palomar family but would like to dig deeper into this line as my nephew descends from the Palomar family through his mother, Christina.

Thank you again Erik for your book. I just ordered a second copy to give to my Reynoso cousins here in Los Angeles. I may have to order more books as they may get their feelings hurt if I only give a book to one of the cousins. I feel that all of these Reynosos will want your book in their library.

Best wishes,
Rick A. Ricci

Dear Rick:

First of all, thank you for your kind words, your generosity and encouragement. Please grant me something, I would like to send you a signed copy for you. I will write you in private to ask you for an address to send it.
I think your book will mark a milestone in genealogy, it is will be the result of hard work and perseverance. It will be a fine addition to anyone’s library.

I am glad that you brought the line of the Señores de Autillo, the mother of Rodrigo is given by Salazar y Castro and Pellicer de Tovar however their info should be taken with a pinch of salt. The last will of Isabel mentions her grandmother as Marta or María Martínez (without “de Trujillo”, that is a Salazar addition and he doesn’t mention where he got it). It strikes me as odd as they are not a family of the surrounding area as the Osorio de Villalobos that fit well with the families of Tierra de Campos. It is also worth considering that there is still a grey space between Inés Rodríguez de Villalobos and the Lords of Autillo, you probably solved this mystery. I can’t explain why a Marta Martínez is mentioned but it is something that doesn’t fit. I would keep the Beatriz Osorio de Villalobos line as well. The protestant line is also interesting, they were part of the "Alumbrados" and what is curious is that they were related to the Cazallas who may be related to our own Cazallas ancestors by the Vera lineage (I'm not sure in here, merely a hypothesis but would be interesting to connect the bridge between these families).

What you mentioned about the Leyva is very interesting and I think your finding of Sancho is going to be a breakthrough, not only for the genealogy of Nueva Galicia but also for the study of the middle ages.
It is curious how we -the Nueva Galicia descendants- have the same blood but we also have different arrangements in our ancestry. Even though Reynoso is my last name I only have it once on my father’s side and twice on my mother’s side. (On her side: one from Jalostotitlán and one from Guanajuato, a natural son of Diego de Reynoso y Herrera called Rafael Reynoso Cardona) That is much less "Reynoso" than the majority of the Alteños. So you, your wife and your daughter are more Reynoso than I am.

I will send you what I have of the Palomar-de la Cavallería connection, on of those come from the "Gil de Gurrea" which seems the agnatic line of the Palomar which later derived to be "Gil de Palomar" during the 16th century.

By the way, this link has been quite useful to me regarding the lines from Aragón, I don't know if you have used it:

http://dara.aragon.es/opac/doma/index.jsp

In it there are documents that mention the families Caballería/Cavallería, Híjar, Sellán, Dalmau (a finding of yours that has been much interesting) and others. (For example: "Apoca de 10.000 sueldos jaqueses otorgado por Miguel Dalmau, doctor, ciudadano de Valencia, en favor de Juan Gil de Palomar, vecino de Mosqueruela, síndico y procurador de la Comunidad por su salario de asistencia")

Best wishes,

Erik

Dear Eric,

I should be, and am, thanking you for your kind words, generosity and encouragement. I am honored and extremely grateful for your offer of a signed copy of your book. Once I read your book, the thought of asking you for a signed copy did cross my mind because I found your book to be a treasure. One of the reasons that your book is an invaluable addition to my library is that it supports and builds on my work that shows that many of the founding families of Nueva Galicia were related before they came over to this side of the Atlantic Ocean. Some were second or third cousins, some of these connections are a century or two before coming over, and in some cases three or four centuries.

I have much respect for your research and am grateful that my comments regarding my notes having the mother of Rodrigo (Rui) Rodriguez De Escobar (aka Rodrigo Señor De Escobar as Maria Beatriz Osorio Villalobos were well received by you. I am not sure if this is the same Rui (Rodrigo) De Escobar, but as you mentioned, the placement of Marta or Maria Martinez as his mother is an awkward fit with what we know about the families and the mark they left in Austillo De Campos. However, Salazar did identify her as María ( o Marta) mtz and did provide that the source was a will. I wonder if Btz should have been written instead of mtz.

Trujillo was not part of the regular surname but a statement of where she was from. As you know, sometimes where a person came from becomes part of a surname. There was a branch of the Escobars from Trujillo so they also had a strong presence there. Looking at the time frame and the family associations that Salazar wrote in his genealogical table, along with the time frame, we can see that we are talking about the same Escobars, but there are a couple of wrinkles like the ownership of the Villa De Autillo that need to be ironed out because the Escobar De Campos side of the family originally did not inherit it as it passed from the Villalobos to the Cisneros Escobar branch first. Somehow the Villa De Autillo came back to Alvaro Rodriguez De Escobar Señor de Escobar de Campos. His son Rodrigo was also sometimes known as Rodrigo Alvarez De Escobar. If we add another generation between Alvaro Rodriguez De Escobar and the Rodrigo Rodriguez De Escobar Señor de Escobar de Campos y Autillo then it would look like this

1) Fernan Escobar, Señor De Escobar (1st to use the surname Escobar) + Sancha De Castañeda. Both came from a long line of nobility. Fernan had many family noble surnames to choose from but took as his surname the name of his new title.
2) Rui Fernández de Escobar. Married twice. First marriage to Teresa Cisneros with no succession. He married a second time to Uracca Mayor Rodríguez de Villalobos.

The property “villa de Autillo” originally belonged to the Villalobos family but passed over to the Escobar family when Urraca Mayor Rodriguez De Villalobos married Rui Fernandez de Escobar. Rui and Urraca have two children, Rui Fernandez De Escobar, II Señor de Escobar, and Isabel De Escobar y Villalobos.

Isabel De Escobar y Rodriguez de Villalobos inherits from her mother the villa De Autillo and Rodrigo Fernandez De Escobar inherits an hacienda from his mother and the “casa De Escobar” from his father and becomes Señor de Escobar de Campos (3).

[Isabel Escobar y De Villalobos marries Martin Ruiz De Cisneros (Cifneros) and they are the progenitors of a Cisneros Escobar line. I have not collected more information on this line yet.]

3) Rodrigo Fernández de Escobar ( i Villalobos), Señor de Escobar de Campos + María de Tovar (although he did not inherit the Villa De Autillo from his mother, she did give him an hacienda.)
4) Rui Fernandez De Escobar, Señor de Escobar y Campos + hija de uno De los señores de Villagarcia
5) Fernan Rodríguez de Escobar, Señor de Escobar y Campos + María ALVAREZ de Barillas y Monroi (en Salamanca)
6) Alvaro Rodriguez De Escobar, Señor de Escobar y Campos + María Beatriz Osorio de Villalobos
7) Rodrigo (Rui) Alvarez De Escobar, Señor de Escobar de Campos (aka Rodrigo Rodriguez De Escobar)

[The following line is speculation to bring the different Escobar branches together to make sense of #8 having the title of Señor de Escobar de Campos i Autillo and the information given by Salazar.

Rui ( Rodrigo) Rodríguez de Escobar Señor de Escobar de Campos e Autillo
Isabel Ruiz de Escobar + Martin Ruiz de Reinoso

[Reminder
I am taking known pieces of the puzzle and adding them to Salazar’s statement to form the family tree by adding a generation to make sense of the puzzle pieces. An argument can be made that Alvar Rodríguez de Escobar married twice, to María (Marta) Mtz, and to María Beatriz Osorio de Villalobos. The Señor De Autillo comes from María Beatriz Osorio de Villalobos. Her son Rodrigo (Rui) Rodriguez De Escobar gets the Señor de Austillo title from her.

As I mentioned earlier, your book is a wonderful addition to my library as it connects to much of my research into other families. My book(s) connect the line you provided to numerous other lines that I have researched.

Through María ALVAREZ de Barillas y Monroi (en Salamanca), who is married to 5)Fernan Rodríguez de Escobar, we find the blood relationship to Hernan Cortez, Conquistador of Mexico.

The document that you found on Miguel Dalmau states that he was a doctor. He was not a medical doctor, at least not in my records. Miguel Dalmau is a “Doctor en Leyes” and came to live with his family in “Castillo De Villahermosa “ after lending the King of Castilla one thousand “florines de oro.”

Thank you again Eric,

Sincerely,
Rick A. Ricci

Alvaro Rodriguez De Escobar, Señor de Escobar and Maria Beatriz Osorio De Villalobos had a younger son named Diego Hernandez De Escobar who settled in Trujillo. Diego married Mencia de Cáceres y Solis and left a long line of descent in Trujillo, Extremadura. Diego is said to be the first of his family to settle there.

Rick A. Ricci

Dear Eric,

In an earlier post, I wrote “In my research I did have a different mother for Rodrigo Rodriguez De Escobar. I didn’t have her as Maria Martinez De Trujillo. I had his mother as Maria Beatriz Osorio De Villalobos. I do have the father as Alvar Rodriguez De Escobar, Señor de Escobar de Campos. I have him as Señor de Escobar de Campos, and as Señor de Autillo de Campos. ”. I looked up my notes and also did more research into Salazar’s claim of a different mother. I believe that my original research notes are correct and I can explain why Salazar y Castro made his mistake as to the name of his mother. I also have many lines of ancestry of Rui Rodriguez De Escobar ( aka Rodrigo Alvarez De Escobar, Señor de Escobar de Campos i Autillo) that connect kings of Castilla, Leon, Portugal, and France. The royal connections did not stop with his ancestors. I have many royal connections to the spouses of his descendants. The Giron, Villalobos, and other Autillo families had many connections, blood and business, with royalty.

I sent you my address through nuestroranchos but I am not sure if the site’s contact button actually works.

Thank you,
Rick A. Ricci

Dear Eric,
There are a few reasons for the confusion of the ancestry of Rodrigo Rodriguez De Escobar. Before I get into the reasons, let me add that during his time period some people named Rodrigo were also called Rui, and their sons sometimes used both surnames Ruiz and Rodriguez. Our Rui/Rodrigo Rodríguez de Escobar, Señor de Campos, was also known as Rodrigo Alvarez De Escobar because his father was named Alvar.

The first reason for the confusion:
The ancestry of Alvar Rodriguez De Escobar, Señor de Escobar de Campos is being confused with the ancestry of his cousin also named Alvar Rodriguez De Escobar that lived in Trujillo. They both had a son named Rodrigo Alvarez De Escobar aka Rui Rodríguez de Escobar.

The second reason is one that Salazar y Castro says that his mothers name is María mtz. Does the record really have mtz or is it Btz? I sometimes have a relatively easy time reading documents that I am researching. At other times I have a hard time trying to read the documents and need to ask others for help when I am not confident that I read it properly. I believe that it is possible that Salazar y Castro misread the will. Salazar y Castro writes that the will has the surname as “mtz “ . He took what he understood to be Mtz to be Martinez when what is written looks like Btz for Beatriz. (María, not Marta, Beatriz Perez Villalobos aka Maria Beatriz Osorio De Villalobos). The surname Martinez does appear as Martinez Leiva with a great grandmother.

A third reason for confusion of the ancestry of Rui/Rodrigo Alvarez De Escobar Señor de Escobar de Campos i Autillo is that although most genealogists place María Beatriz’s parents as Pedro Alvarez Osorio and Maria Fernandez De Villalobos, señora De Villalobos, one secondary source places Maria Beatriz as their granddaughter, with her father being Juan Osorio. More research is needed to find out if she is daughter or granddaughter of Don Pedro.

María Fernández de Villalobos daughter of Fernan Rodriguez De Villalobos, Señor De Villalobos y de Autillo. María inherited the title SeñoraDe Autillo which later was inherited by Rui/Rodrigo Alvarez De Escobar Señor de Escobar y Autillo De Campos. It gets a little entangled up here because of repeated marriages of cousins with similar names. Primary sources are needed here to strengthen the claims of secondary sources.

I have a lot more information on their ancestry, connecting them repeatedly to royal lines. María Beatriz Osorio de Villalobos’s parents were related as well as Maria Beatriz to her husband. The family intermarriages kept Autillo in the family. When the family married into the Reynoso family the endogamy continued as again we find distant cousins marrying for the next few generations in our line that leads to Francisco Reynoso y Rico.

Thank you,
Rick A. Ricci

Source my book: Mygenes2000

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