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By meef98367 - Posted on 04 January 2018

I need help reading some of the names in this marriage from Chihuahua, Mexico, Civil Registrations, 29 dic 1879 for Bernardo Carmona and Ma. Juana Ocon.

I can't make out the name of the groom's grandfather --Pan--?--Carmona.

I also can't make out the name of the bride's paternal grandmother ---Ma ? Munoz ?

What is the bride's paternal grandmother ---Ma. Pla.(?) Munos (?)
I looks like only her maternal grandmother is listed --Antonia Errera (?)

It is a long record that takes up two and a half pages in the marriage volume. I am so mixed up now.

Thank you in advance for your help

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

Hello Emilie.

Bernardo and Juana got married by church in "La Villa de Santa Rosalia" on Jan 09 1880:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-68PS-DCD

Bernardo (20). Parents: Juan J. Carmona and Manuela Reyes.

Juana (17). Parents: Anastasio Ocon and Ricarda Burrola.

Anastasio and Ricarda got married in the same place on Jan 13 1862:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-68PS-HD4

Anastasio (20). Parents: Pedro Ocon and Placida Muñoz.

Ricarda (16). Parents: Salome Burrola and Mauricia Morales.

Is there a link to the document you are citing you could provide? I'll gladly help with the names of Bernardo's grandparents.

baratero (sorry, I don't know your name).

Here is the link: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60442/004865638_01149?pid=3413838&treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=wSN7&_phstart=successSource

thanks so much,

Emilie

Port Orchard, WA

________________________________
From: Research on behalf of baratero69@hotmail.com
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 2:10 PM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marriage of Bernardo and Juana

Hello Emilie. Bernardo and Juana got married by church in "La Villa de Santa
Rosalia" on Jan 09 1880:
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.familysearch.org%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F3%3A1%3AS3HT-68PS-DCD&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd50a9f831a3a456f6d9e08d555526003%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636508734641171854&sdata=v5Xh7fGp1OxD56SeekEv3lQjimLrxv8G10BNp0iYPw0%3D&reserved=0 Bernardo (20).
Parents: Juan J. Carmona and Manuela Reyes. Juana (17). Parents: Anastasio
Ocon and Ricarda Burrola. Anastasio and Ricarda got married in the same place
on Jan 13 1862: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.familysearch.org%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F3%3A1%3AS3HT-68PS-HD4&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd50a9f831a3a456f6d9e08d555526003%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636508734641171854&sdata=si1JbaGnqblTzHrGnDawNgN2DIwT63QtGWnKhDCShog%3D&reserved=0
Anastasio (20). Parents: *Pedro Ocon* and *Placida Muñoz*. Ricarda (16).
Parents: *Salome Burrola* and *Mauricia Morales*. Is there a link to the
document you are citing you could provide? I'll gladly help with the names of
Bernardo's grandparents.

Hi Emilie.

My name is Ruben (It is displayed on your post at NR site. "Submitted by ...")

I do not have an Ancestry subscription.

If you can provide the book's details (City, description: e.g. "Libro de copias de actas de matrimonio de ...", dates range of records in the book, etc., usually the information is on the cover or in the front page of the book) I can look for the document at FamilySearch.

Hello, Ruben,

Thanks so much. I first found the document on Ancestry because they have indexed Civil Registrations whereas Fam Search has not, Plus they have a direct link that pulls the image for one to see. but I still found it for you on Fam Search:

Enter Search on Fam Search. Then:

1.
Click on "Browse all Published Collections"
2.
Click on "Historical Record Collections"
3.
Scroll down to "Mexico, Chihuahua, Civil Registrations 1861-1997" - Browse Images
4.
Click on "Browse through 1,561,583 images"
5.
Sign in with your Fam Search Account. You might have to do this a couple of times until you can get back to where you were. I hate the way they make us do that.
6.
Click on "La Cruz"
7.
Click on "Matrimonios 1871-1950
8.
Go to Image 98 of 1903 - it will be on the left side

Thanks in advance,

Emilie

________________________________
From: Research on behalf of baratero69@hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2018 8:00 AM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Link to the document.

Hi Emilie. My name is Ruben (It is displayed on your post at NR site.
"Submitted by ...") I do not have an Ancestry subscription. If you can
provide the book's details (City, description: e.g. "Libro de copias de actas
de matrimonio de ...", dates range of records in the book, etc., usually the
information is on the cover or in the front page of the book) I can look for
the document at FamilySearch.

Hello Emilie.

The document is poorly legible. My best guess:

Paternal grandparents: Ponciano Carmona and Maria Josefa Nieto

Maternal grandparents: Gabriel Reyes (Graviel) and Maria Juana Marquez

I hope this may be of help for your search.

Thank you so much Ruben. I will see what comes up.

Emilie

________________________________
From: Research on behalf of baratero69@hotmail.com
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 7:56 AM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Bernardo's grandparents

Hello Emilie. The document is poorly legible. My best guess: Paternal
grandparents: Ponciano Carmona and Maria Josefa Nieto Maternal grandparents:
Gabriel Reyes (Graviel) and Maria Juana Marquez I hope this may be of help
for your search.

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