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By dserna1 - Posted on 28 March 2017

Hello Primos/Saludos Primos!

My name is Daniel Serna Valencia. I live out in California. On my mother's, our roots run deep into Jalisco.Here are the towns and surnames I'm researching:

Valencia - Ameca, Acatlan de Juarez, Jocotepec, Teocuitatlan de Corona, Hacienda de Huejotitan (Jocotepec), Sahuayo, Cotija
Alcaraz/Oceguera/Flores de Estrada/Macias-Valadez - Poncitlan,, La Barca, Ocotlan, Jiquilpan, Sahuayo, Ixtlan, Hacienda de la Palma, Cotija
Mercado - Cuquio, Yahualica, Fresnillo
Ponce/Güitron - Talpa, Tenamaxtlan, Guachinango, Mascota, Hacienda de San Cristobal (Tenamaxtlan)
Aguirre/Navarette/de las Casas/de la Dueña - Real de San Sebastián, Hostotipaquillo, Real de la Resurrecion
Curiel - Talpa, Cuale, Mascota
Portillo - Guachinango, Mixtlan

On my wife's side I'm tracing the following:

de la Cueva/ Gutierrez/ Castañeda/ Coria/Ochoa-Garibai/ Jimenez - Tamazula, Zamora, Jiquilpan, Tlazazalca

If you share any of those last names and in the towns I mentioned, please let me know. I've made good progress on my Valencia and Alcaraz/Oceguera lines that I could discuss.

Best,

Daniel Serna Valencia

Indeed, I have also had a hard time with my Mascota ancestors. The earliest records were burned during the Reforma War, and I have to go through the marriage dispensations in Guadalajara to find clues about my ancestors. Luckily, lots of families in the area intermarried, and that's how I've been able to extend my family tree in that region.

Indeed, we are related through our Fregoso line this way:

Me
My parents
Maria Luisa Gomez, married Arnulfo Apodaca
Elena Curiel, married Urbano Gomez
Maria de Jesus Peña, married Ygnacio Curiel
Efren Peña, partnered Pantaleona Cazarez
Maria Eleuteria Topete, married Jose Maria Peña
Rudecindo Topete, married Maria Josefa Curiel
Juana Maria Fregoso, married Santiago Rafael Topete
Simon Thadeo Fregoso, married Maria Margarita Barrera (or Barreda)
Domingo Fregoso, married Beatriz de Hijar Bracamonte
Juan Fregoso, married Angela Enrriquez Beltran
Domingo Fregoso, married Francisca Sanchez Conde

I've been able to find my last Fregoso ancestors through the matrimonial dispensation of Juan Flores de Arechiga and Juana Henrriquez Fregoso, daughter of Juan Fregoso. However, I have not been able to connect to Leonardo Fregoso and Bernardina Farfan. Another member from the forum told me that Leonardo was the father of Domingo, but I have not been able to find an original document that connects them. How did you determine that relationship?

Also, I wonder if you have info about Leonardo's children from his other marriage (Chavez). I have Chavez Fragoso ancestors from Aguascalientes, but I just haven't been able to connect with Leonardo, yet.

Steve,

In an old Nuestros Ranchos post, I found the following post by Guillermo Tovar de Teresa:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.com/en/node/19241?page=1
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Contenido del testamento de Leonardo Fregoso
Submitted by gmotovar@prodig... on Sun, 2011-02-20 18:00.
Por equivocación, creo que envié otro datos dirigidos a un investigador de Granada, quien me pidió ayuda para situar al Tesorero Alonso de Mérida (1539-1550).

Pero, lo de Leonardo Fregoso consiste en lo siguiente:

-El testamento de encuentra en el AIPEJ, ante el protocolo de Juan Sedano, volumen V, folios 59 fte hasta 62 fte.

-Dice haber sido casado dos veces. La primera con Ana de Chávez, con quien tuvo a Pedro de Chávez Fregoso.

-La segunda con Bernardina Farfán, con quien hubo y procreó a Domingo (de treinta años, marido de Francisca Sánchez Conde); a Leonardo Fregoso; a tres monjas profesas del Convento de Santa Maria de Gracia de Guadalajara, de nombre Bernardina de Santa Clara, Juliana de San Leonel y Maria de Santa Ursula y, por último, a Gerónima de la Cueva, casada con Francisco de Velasco y Temiño. Yo desciendo de Domingo y de Gerónima.

-Entre sus bienes menciona una hacienda de moler metales en el Real de Santiago, jurisdicción de las Minas de Ostotipac.

-El testamento se halla fechado el 2 de julio de 1635.

-Existe en el AGIS, un documento que nos lo muestra como un gran maestro en el arte de amalgamación de metales, al modo de Bartolomé de Medina, cuando recibe un reconocimiento del Rey Felipe II.

Espero que esto te sirva y me da mucho gusto compartirlo contigo, que para eso estamos, para servir a los miembros de nuestra comunidad.

Saludos

Guillermo Tovar de Teresa
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Daniel Serna Valencia

Dear Daniel Serna Valencia,

I messed up and repeated a generation when typing, #10 and 11 are the same people. In one tree the line continues with Antonio Feliz Coria-Peralta Rincon parents and in the other it continues with Antonia Villaseñor's parents.

10). Antonio Feliz de Coria-Peralta & Antonia de Villasenor
11). Antonia Villaseñor and Antonio Feliz Coria Peralta Rincon

This is how it should have been typed.

1). Your wife
2). Your wife's parents
3). Your wife's paternal grandparents
4). Maria Soledad Castaneda & Jose Maria Gutierrez
5). Juan Jose Castaneda & Felicitas Chavez
6). Juan Jose Castaneda & Maria Josefa Mendez
7). Maria Felipa Munguia & Jose Manuel Cruz Castaneda
8). Miguel Munguia & Eufracia Rosalia Valdez
9). Maria Antonia "Teresa" de Coria y Villasenor & Juan "Carlos"Munguia Maciel
10). Antonio Feliz Coria- Peralta Rincon and Antonia Villaseñor

11). Alonso Coria Lomelin and Ana Nuñez Hidalgo y Fernandez del Rincon
12). Catalina Lomelin and Manuel Coria-Peralta

13). Luis Lomelin (Luciano Lomellini) and Maria Olmo

1). Your wife
2). Your wife's parents
3). Your wife's paternal grandparents
4). Maria Soledad Castaneda & Jose Maria Gutierrez
5). Juan Jose Castaneda & Felicitas Chavez
6). Juan Jose Castaneda & Maria Josefa Mendez
7). Maria Felipa Munguia & Jose Manuel Cruz Castaneda
8). Miguel Munguia & Eufracia Rosalia Valdez
9). Maria Antonia Theresa de Coria y Villasenor & Juan "Carlos" Munguia Maciel
10) Antonia Villaseñor and Antonio Feliz Coria Peralta Rincon

11). Matias Villaseñor Cervantes y Nuñez del Rincon and Antonia Rodriguez Antúñez de Borgia (Borja)
12) Capitan Francisco de Villaseñor Cervantes y Patiño and Ines Nuñez Hidalgo del Rincon
13). Juan de Villaseñor Cervantes y Guesca and Maria Patiño de Herrera y Pereyra

14). Francisco de Villaseñor y Cervantes and Leonor de Guesca (Gasca) y Reus
15). Conquistador Juan Villaseñor-Tovar y Orosco (born 1500) and Catalina Cervantes de Andrada Lara

16) Diego de Burgos Tovar (Villaseñor) (born prior 1455) and his second wife Guiomar Horosco y Sandoval (born prior 1481)

17). Diego de Villaseñor y Tovar (born between 1405-1420) Isabel de Villaseñor (Daughter of Alfonso Villaseñor)

18). comendador Juan Villaseñor Seron (Serone/Seronis) married to Elvira de Tovar y Enriquez de Castilla

19). Diego Villaseñor alcaide de Segovía married to Maria Serones (Seron)

20). Fernan A. Villaseñor marries Aldonza Gutierrez de Tapia

21) Elvira Osórez and Alfonso F. Villaseñor

22). Fernando Osórez maestro de Santiago, d. 1383)

Sorry,
Rick A. Ricci

No need to apologize Rick. Thanks again for putting together the detailed trees. This is very helpful to both my wife and I!

Thank You,

Daniel Serna Valencia

To Daniel Serna Valencia,

Here is more information from my book mygenes2000 as it connects to your wife.

I) Don Fabian Martinez and Cathalina de Borja are the parents of Maria Martínez de Borja

II) Maria Martinez de Borja and Gonzalo Antúnez Yáñez, Portuguese, familiar of the Holy Office. The hacienda that Gonzalo owned was a big part of Mexican political history as Lazaro Cardenas made it the third largest ejido in Mexico in the mid to late 1950's. It also has been in the news lately for other reasons that have to do with drug trafficking and gun battles. Gonzalo and Maria are the parents of Ana de Antúnez y Borja.

III) Ana de Antúnez y Borja and Captain Don Alonso Rodriguez Martos (have his parents names, but still verifying this info as the parents surnames are completely different from his surname). Don Alonso and Ana are the parents of Antonia Antúnez de Borja (Borgia) who was left orphaned and was raised in the Convent of Santa Catalina de Sena in the city of Valladolid.

IV) Antonia Antúnez de Borja (Borgia) married Don Mathías de Villaseñor Cervantes y Nuñez del Rincon.

So your wife's line would look like this:

1). Your wife
2). Your wife's parents
3). Your wife's paternal grandparents
4). Maria Soledad Castaneda & Jose Maria Gutierrez
5). Juan Jose Castaneda & Felicitas Chavez
6). Juan Jose Castaneda & Maria Josefa Mendez
7). Maria Felipa Munguia & Jose Manuel Cruz Castaneda
8). Miguel Munguia & Eufracia Rosalia Valdez
9). Maria Antonia Theresa de Coria y Villasenor & Juan "Carlos" Munguia Maciel
10) Antonia Villaseñor y Antúnez and Antonio Feliz Coria Peralta Rincon

11) Antonia Rodriguez Antúñez de Borgia (Borja) and Matias Villaseñor Cervantes y Nuñez del Rincon

12) Ana de Antúnez y Borja and Captain Don Alonso Rodriguez Martos
13) Maria Martinez de Borja and Gonzalo Antúnez Yáñez, Portuguese

14) Don Fabian Martinez and Cathalina de Borja

My 4th great-grandfather -Paulino Maria Fregoso Gomez
-Joseph Bernardino Fregoso de Ocampo (1782 - )

Maria De Jesus Fregoso Gomez (1818 - )

Maria Francisca Patiño Fregoso (1845 - )

Jose De Jesus Gomez Patiño (1873 - )

Remigia Gomez Perez (1918 - )

J.Ignacio Anaya Gomez and me .

Saludos Primo! Que gusto en conocer a un pariente por parte de mis antepasados los Fregoso! Mucho gusto!

Saludos,

Daniel Serna Valencia

Hi Daniel,

Do you know whether your Alcaraz family has any connection to the Alcaraz/Alexandre family of Jiquilpan, Mich?

I'm descended from Maria Alcaraz of Jilquilpan married to Geronimo de Alexandre Villaroel (either grandson or greatgrandson of Bartolome de Alexandre & Isabel Villaroel of Patzcuaro, Mich.) I descend through their son, Joseph de Alexandre (Villaroel) who moved to Ocotlan, Jal. and married Juana Hurtado de mendoza (daughter of Juan Flores de Estrada)

I've found that at least one confirmed daughter of Geronimo and Maria went mostly by the maternal surname as Juana Alcaraz. Juana and her husband, Joseph Castellanos, are padrinos to her sister's, Leonor, marriage to Juan Vargas Molina in 1720 in La Barca Jal. and is listed as Juana de Alexandre. (This makes me wonder if most of the female Alcaraz living in Poncitlan, Jal. in early 1700s are related to Geronimo de Alexandre & Maria Alcaraz since it was very rare for that area at that time.)

Paul A. Gonzales

P.S. I have a very strong connection to Ocotlan, Poncitlan, La Barca, and Jamay areas through my paternal side.

Hi Paul,

What an amazing coincidence! About 2-3 days ago I stumbled across the dispensa matrimonial (From the archives of Casa Morelos, archivo del antiguo Obispado de Michoacan) between Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel y Velasquez and Maria de Alcaraz! We absolutely share a common ancestor via the Alcaraz line!

Maria de Alcaraz cc Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel y Velasquez was the sister of Antonia de Oceguera cc Juan Flores de Estrada, my 8th great-grandparents. The sisters were daughters of Pedro Ruiz de Alcaraz and Leonor de Oceguera, my 9th great-grandparents. I know this for a fact given this dispensa matrimonial as it tells us Maria de Alcaraz's parents:

  • Dispensa Matrimonial de Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel y Maria de Alcaraz


  • Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel y Velasquez married twice, the first time to Ana de Alcocer (Daughter of Diego de Alcocer and Tomasina de Espinosa). The second time with Maria de Alcaraz.

    You are indeed right in that Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel y Velasquez was the grandson of Bartolome de Alexandre and Isabel de Villarroel. From what I've found in the archives, the Alexandre family tree looks like this:

  • Pedro de Alexandre (b. Sevilla, Andalucia, Espana) cc Ana Perez Navarro
  • Bartolome de Alexandre (b. Sevilla, Andalucia, Espana, d. 1625 Patzcuaro, Michoacan, Mexico) cc Isabel de Villarroel
  • Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel cc Isabel Velasquez (Daughter of Juan Fernandez cc Ana Vasquez)
  • Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel cc Maria de Alcaraz (2nd marriage)


  • Here are some links that back up some of the above information:

  • 1625, Patzcuaro - Fundacion de Capellania, fundada por Isabel de Villarroel a nombre de su esposo Bartolome de Alexandre
  • 1606, Patzcuaro - Partida de bautizmo de Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel
  • 1662, Zirahuen - Informacion Matrimonial de Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel y Velasquez y Ana de Alcocer
  • 1670, Tinguindin - Dispensa Matrimonial (Por afinidad) entre Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel y Velasquez & Maria de Alcaraz


  • Hope this helps,

    Daniel Serna Valencia

    Since I manage several trees which one are you referring to, Daniel?

    Paul Gomez
    Sent from my iPhone

    > On Jan 30, 2018, at 11:58 AM, themexican@outlook.com wrote:
    >
    > Hi Paul, What an amazing coincidence! About 2-3 days ago I stumbled across
    > the dispensa matrimonial (From the archives of Casa Morelos, archivo del
    > antiguo Obispado de Michoacan) between *Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel y
    > Velasquez* and *Maria de Alcaraz*! We absolutely share a common ancestor via
    > the *Alcaraz* line! *Maria de Alcaraz* cc *Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel y
    > Velasquez* was the sister of *Antonia de Oceguera* cc *Juan Flores de
    > Estrada*, my 8th great-grandparents. The sisters were daughters of *Pedro
    > Ruiz de Alcaraz* and *Leonor de Oceguera*, my 9th great-grandparents. I know
    > this for a fact given this dispensa matrimonial as it tells us *Maria de
    > Alcaraz's* parents:
    > * Dispensa Matrimonial de Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel y Maria de
    > Alcaraz [1]
    > *Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel y Velasquez* married twice, the first time
    > to *Ana de Alcocer* (Daughter of *Diego de Alcocer* and *Tomasina de
    > Espinosa*). The second time with *Maria de Alcaraz*. You are indeed right in
    > that *Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel y Velasquez* was the grandson of
    > *Bartolome de Alexandre* and *Isabel de Villarroel*. From what I've found in
    > the archives, the *Alexandre* family tree looks like this:
    > * Pedro de Alexandre (b. Sevilla, Andalucia, Espana) cc Ana Perez Navarro
    > * Bartolome de Alexandre (b. Sevilla, Andalucia, Espana, d. 1625 Patzcuaro,
    > Michoacan, Mexico) cc Isabel de Villarroel
    > * Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel cc Isabel Velasquez (Daughter of Juan
    > Fernandez cc Ana Vasquez)
    > * Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel cc Maria de Alcaraz (2nd marriage)
    > Here are some links that back up some of the above information:
    > * 1625, Patzcuaro - Fundacion de Capellania, fundada por Isabel de
    > Villarroel a nombre de su esposo Bartolome de Alexandre [2]
    > * 1606, Patzcuaro - Partida de bautizmo de Geronimo de Alexandre Villarroel
    > [3]
    > * 1662, Siraguen - Informacion Matrimonial de Geronimo de Alexandre
    > Villarroel y Velasquez y Ana de Alcocer [4]
    > * 1670, Tinguindin - Dispensa Matrimonial (Por afinidad) entre Geronimo de
    > Alexandre Villarroel y Velasquez & Maria de Alcaraz [5]
    > Hope this helps! Daniel Serna Valencia
    >
    > [1] https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-KPLH-Q?i=441&wc=3NTX-T38%3A178285301%2C178658501%2C203940501&cc=1883388&cat=2535
    > [2] https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-1M9T-T3?i=134&cc=1883388&cat=394235
    > [3] https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-2LS5-HG?i=28&cc=1883388
    > [4] https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-5V96-4P?i=1396&wc=3NYH-SPD%3A178285301%2C178658501%2C203824401&cc=1883388&cat=394235
    > [5] https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-KPLH-Q?i=441&wc=3NTX-T38%3A178285301%2C178658501%2C203940501&cc=1883388&cat=2535
    >

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