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By dserna1 - Posted on 28 March 2017

Hello Primos/Saludos Primos!

My name is Daniel Serna Valencia. I live out in California. On my mother's, our roots run deep into Jalisco.Here are the towns and surnames I'm researching:

Valencia - Ameca, Acatlan de Juarez, Jocotepec, Teocuitatlan de Corona, Hacienda de Huejotitan (Jocotepec), Sahuayo, Cotija
Alcaraz/Oceguera/Flores de Estrada/Macias-Valadez - Poncitlan,, La Barca, Ocotlan, Jiquilpan, Sahuayo, Ixtlan, Hacienda de la Palma, Cotija
Mercado - Cuquio, Yahualica, Fresnillo
Ponce/Güitron - Talpa, Tenamaxtlan, Guachinango, Mascota, Hacienda de San Cristobal (Tenamaxtlan)
Aguirre/Navarette/de las Casas/de la Dueña - Real de San Sebastián, Hostotipaquillo, Real de la Resurrecion
Curiel - Talpa, Cuale, Mascota
Portillo - Guachinango, Mixtlan

On my wife's side I'm tracing the following:

de la Cueva/ Gutierrez/ Castañeda/ Coria/Ochoa-Garibai/ Jimenez - Tamazula, Zamora, Jiquilpan, Tlazazalca

If you share any of those last names and in the towns I mentioned, please let me know. I've made good progress on my Valencia and Alcaraz/Oceguera lines that I could discuss.

Best,

Daniel Serna Valencia

Daniel,

i have people in fresnillo too but the records only go back so far. do you know where the records are before fresnillo's records are available in family search.

Danny C. Alonso

Hi Danny,

Unfortunately, I don't. I've looked, but, haven't found any other sources of pre-familysearch fresnillo records, beyond dispensas. I'm looking for info related to my Vazquez del Mercado ancestors.

Best,

Daniel Serna Valencia

Dear Daniel

Welcome to the team. Some of the surnames you are researching are part of my family tree. One name that we share is Ochoa Garibay. Check out the old post of mine on Ochoa Garibay ancestors: http://www.nuestrosranchos.com/en/node/23400

I also have Valencia in my family tree. I descend from Maria Rita Valencia and Joseph Domingo Estrada.

Maria Rita Valencia is the daughter of Lorenzo Valencia and Juana Gertrudis Maldonado (aka Gonzalez) ( daughter of Antonio Gonzalez and Petronila 'Petra' Gutierrez-Maldonado

Lorenzo Valencia and Juana Gertrudis 'Petra' Maldonado are married in Ocotlan, Jalisco on 10/Dec/1736

Lorenzo's parents are Nicolas Valencia and Josepha Martinez. So far that is the end of the road for my Valencia line. It was just the past week that discoverered Maria Rita Valencia's grandparents.

FHL microfilm 280,856.

Image 283 out of 474

Lorenso Valencia
mentioned in the record of Lorenso Valencia and Juana Getrudis Maldonado
Name Lorenso Valencia son of Nicolas Valencia and Josepha Martinez
Spouse's Name Juana Getrudis Maldonado daughter of Antonio Gonzalez and Petra Gutierrez Maldonado
Event Date 10 Dec 1736
Event Place Ocotlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Citing this Record
"Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCDH-J9D : 15 July 2015), Lorenso Valencia and Juana Getrudis Maldonado, 10 Dec 1736; citing Ocotlan,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ;

Rick A. Ricci

Thanks for the warm welcome Rick and everyone else. Glad to be here.

Rick, I did indeed view your most informative post and I shared it with my wife who was amazed(and thankful) at how far back you were able to trace back that lineage. On that branch my wife descends from Bonifacio de Ochoa-Garibay as follows:

Bonifacio de Ochoa-Garibay y Gutierrez de Robles cc Gertrudis de Coria y Villasenor
Leonardo Ambrocio de Ochoa-Garibay cc Josefa Jimenez y Maciel
Francisco Thomas de Ochoa cc Maria Josefa Mojica
Jose Maria Ochoa cc Maria Dolores Villanueva
Maria Refugio Ochoa cc Ramon Gutierrez
Jose Maria Gutierrez cc Maria Soledad Castaneda
My wife's paternal grandparents
My wife's parents
My wife

On the Valencia front, I'm intrigued to know that there was a Valencia family in Ocotlan. I wasn't aware of it until now. I'm always on the lookout for any Valencias in Jalisco to see if and how they are related to other Valencias in Jalisco and Michoacan. If I run across any info regarding Nicolas Valencia and Josepha Martinez in my searches, I'll let you know.

Thank You,

Daniel Serna Valencia

Dear Daniel,

Thanks for offering to look out for Nicolas Valencia and Josepha Martinez. I am also related to you and your wife through other lines. I am related to you through the Velasco, Figueroa, Cervantes, Macias Valadez , Coria-Peralta Villaseñor, Lomelin, Sotomayor-Pantoja, Boccanegra,and others.

I have done a lot of research on the Boccanegra, Coria-Peralta line, the Lomelin lines (both Carlo and Luis), Juana Nunez de Sotomayors line, and the Villaseñor Cervantes family and others that you are also researching. Some of the information I have posted. I am working hard at putting together a book soon, but I keep finding more information that I need to add.

Remember to not believe all the postings on geni.com or geneanet as there are many mistakes in those postings.

Thanks again,
Rick A. Ricci

I also am working on Vasquez de Mercado and I'm stuck on Juan Vasquez de Mercado and Ines Rangel de Acuna. It is my direct paternal line. I did do a Y-DNA test which confirms my direct paternal ancestor did come from the old world. I'm also originally from CA. Welcome to NR!

Alex Mercado

Dear Alex,

Please provide more information if you want help on Juan Vasquez de Mercado and Ynes Rangel de Acuña. Who are their kids? What years are they likely to be alive? Where did they reside? Did they move around a lot or did they mainly stay in one or two places? Who were their padrinos in their kids baptisms? Do you have any specific information on them?

There were different lines of descent that carried the Mercado Vasquez surname. There are Vasquez de Mercado or Mercado de Vasquez throughout Mexico.

One of them was started when with Juan de la Cueva del Mercado, Señor de la Casa de la Cueva de Úbeda y doña Leonor de San Martín Vázquez de Acuña. They had a son named Juan de la Cueva Mercado Vasquez.

From Spain to Fresnillo, Zacatecas. mexico

A second line of Mercado Vasquez, or Vasquez de Mercado line originated with Lic. Ginés de Mercado y Inés Vázquez.

They had a son named Gines de Mercado y Vasquez. This line of descent is the one that the Vasquez de Mercado from Fresnillo, Zacatecas, descend from.

1). Lic. Ginés de Mercado ) y Inés Vázquez,

2). Capitán Ginés Vázquez de Mercado (b. in Talavera, Spain, d. 1553, Juchipila) and Ana Vázquez de Tapia (d. Before husband as he is a widower in his later years) ), Ginés and his wife Ana were cousins.

They had one son and three daughters.

Your Juan Vasquez de Mercado that is married to Ynes Rangel de Acuña is most likely a descendant of one of these four siblings.

Thanks,
Rick

Daniel,

It appears your wife and I are relatives thru these lines. I descend from D. Bonifacio de Ochoa y Garibay thru my great grandmother Da. Victoria Sánchez de Aldana. I would love to compare notes if you are interested.

Daniel Méndez de Torres y Camino

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2017, at 6:10 PM, "themexican@outlook.com" wrote:
>
> Thanks for the warm welcome Rick and everyone else. Glad to be here. Rick, I
> did indeed view your most informative post and I shared it with my wife who
> was amazed(and thankful) at how far back you were able to trace back that
> lineage. On that branch my wife descends from Bonifacio de Ochoa-Garibay as
> follows: Bonifacio de Ochoa-Garibay y Gutierrez de Robles cc Gertrudis de
> Coria y Villasenor Leonardo Ambrocio de Ochoa-Garibay cc Josefa Jimenez y
> Maciel Francisco Thomas de Ochoa cc Maria Josefa Mojica Jose Maria Ochoa cc
> Maria Dolores Villanueva Maria Refugio Ochoa cc Ramon Gutierrez Jose Maria
> Gutierrez cc Maria Soledad Castaneda My wife's paternal grandparents My
> wife's parents My wife On the Valencia front, I'm intrigued to know that
> there was a Valencia family in Ocotlan. I wasn't aware of it until now. I'm
> always on the lookout for any Valencias in Jalisco to see if and how they are
> related to other Valencias in Jalisco and Michoacan. If I run across any info
> regarding Nicolas Valencia and Josepha Martinez in my searches, I'll let you
> know. Thank You, Daniel Serna Valencia
>

Hi Daniel,

Yes, please feel free to contact me via email at: themexican@outlook.com and we can certainly compare notes.

Thanks,

Daniel Serna Valencia

I descend from Bernarda de Coria-Peralta Lomelin, a great paternal aunt of your ancestor of Gertrudis Coria Lomelin y Villaseñor. I am also related through the Villaseñor because Bernarda's husband is Jose Villaseñor y Figueroa who is related to Gertrudis's mother, Antonia Vilaseñor y Borgia.

I have done much work on the Coria-Peralta and Villaseñor family trees. Some of the work I have posted here on Nuestrosranchos. Those posts are more recent. The Pantoja-Portocarrero ancestry is Juana Nunez de Sotomayor's ancestry and that post was work I think I did a couple of years ago. The Portocarrero ancestry goes back many years and is a mix of of 'cristiano Viejo' and Jewish converts that converted way before the forced Jewish conversions that we are more familiar with. The Portocarrerro line does descend from a king of Leon.

Juan Merlo el Bravo and Guiomar Ulloa Yanez (born about 1430)
Juana Merlo Ulloa (b.1448) and Gonzalo Pantoja Portocarrero
Pedro Pantoja-Portocarreo(b. Abt 1468)and Catalina Rodriguez
juan Pantoja-Portocarrero (b.abt.1490) and Maria de la Pena
Catalina Pantoja Pena Ulloa (born about 1515) and Alonso De la Cueva Mendoza
Bernardina Hurtado de Mendoza Pantoja Ulloa (born about 1533) and Gonzalo nunez de Sotomayor
Juana nunez de Sotomayor( born about 1555) and Diego Ochoa de Garibay
Diego Ochoa Garibay y Nuñez Sotomayor and Juana Bejines Romero
Nicolas Ochoa Garibay y Bejines Romero and María Jiménez Palomino y Lupiana
José Ochoa Garibay y Jimenez Lupiana and María Ana Gutierrez de Robles y Esqueda
Bonifacio Ochoa Garibay y Gutierrez de Robles and Gertrudis de Coria Villaseñor
Leonardo Ambrosio Ochoa Garibay y Coria Villaseñor and María Josefa Jiménez M.
Francisco Tomas Ochoa Garibay y Jimenez and María Josepha Mojica
Jose María Ochoa Mojica and María Dolores Villanueva
Jose Refugio Ochoa and Ramon Gutierrez
Jose María Gutierrez and María Soledad Castaneda
You wife's paternal grandparents
Your wife's parents
Your wife

Juan Merlo "el Bravo" is one of the greatest Knights of all time. He went to Germany to prove it. The date and event were recorded for all time when a giant earthquake hit on the same day of his winning challenge.

Rick A. Ricci

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