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LOOKING TO TRACE ANCESTOR FURTGER BACK THAN FAMILY SEARCH HAS

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By HERJOE59 - Posted on 17 March 2017

I AM RESEARCHING JUAN MARTIN TORRES, WIFE BEING XASINTA DE SANTOS.FOUND THAT SOME OF HIS KIDS FROM SAN ANTONIO DE LOS VILLALOVOS(MARIA ANGEL 1783) BUT LOOKING TO SEE IF JUAN MARTIN CAME FROM THERE MAYBE AROUND 1755 ,BUT FAMILY SEARCH DOESN'T GO BACK THAT FAR.I DID FIND A JUAN MARTIN TORRES THAT WAS BORN ELSEWHERE BUT HE IS LIST AS BEING ESP. ALL OF JUAN MARTIN TORRES KIDS IN MY LINE WERE INDIO.IF I COULD FIND OTHER REFERENCES WHERE I COULD RESEARCH THEM I WOULD GREATLY APPRTECIATE IT'  .   JOSE TORRES  HERJOE59@YAHOO.COM

I just found another child born around 1765 (marriage records states he is 28 yo)

Claudio
Since the children were it seems all born in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, his parents were probably married in the same location abt 1763-65 (last child might be 1785)only Encarnacion's records dont start until 1789 for IM and marriages 1778.

I found that all of the following have a San Antonio where Claudio was born
Bolanos, San Juan de los Lagos, Teocaltiche, La Barca, Atotonilco el Alto and Zapotlan. perhaps one of the membership familiar with this may provide further insight of where the records of Encarnacion were before this time.

Juan Martin De Torres
1750–Deceased • 9ZQ5-NFB​
Ana Jacinta De Los Santos
1753–Deceased • 9ZQ5-NYN

Encarnacion de Diaz, prior to becoming a municipality was part of two other
Municipios, San Juan de Los Lagos and Teocaltiche Jalisco, depending on the
proximity of each of these municipios. Encarnacion did not become a
municipality until 1823.

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:45 AM, wrote:

> I just found another child born around 1765 (marriage records states he is
> 28
> yo) Claudio Since the children were it seems all born in Encarnacion de
> Diaz,
> Jalisco, his parents were probably married in the same location abt 1763-65
> (last child might be 1785)only Encarnacion's records dont start until 1789
> for IM and marriages 1778. I found that all of the following have a San
> Antonio where Claudio was born Bolanos, San Juan de los Lagos, Teocaltiche,
> La Barca, Atotonilco el Alto and Zapotlan. perhaps one of the membership
> familiar with this may provide further insight of where the records of
> Encarnacion were before this time. Juan Martin De Torres 1750–Deceased •
> 9ZQ5-NFB​ Ana Jacinta De Los Santos 1753–Deceased • 9ZQ5-NYN
>

Thanks for that info on Encarnacion, Alicia. Tony's great-grandparents immigrated from there, so it is good to know its history.

Emilie

________________________________
From: Research on behalf of Alicia Carrillo
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 12:17 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thorres

Encarnacion de Diaz, prior to becoming a municipality was part of two other
Municipios, San Juan de Los Lagos and Teocaltiche Jalisco, depending on the
proximity of each of these municipios. Encarnacion did not become a
municipality until 1823.

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:45 AM, wrote:

> I just found another child born around 1765 (marriage records states he is
> 28
> yo) Claudio Since the children were it seems all born in Encarnacion de
> Diaz,
> Jalisco, his parents were probably married in the same location abt 1763-65
> (last child might be 1785)only Encarnacion's records dont start until 1789
> for IM and marriages 1778. I found that all of the following have a San
> Antonio where Claudio was born Bolanos, San Juan de los Lagos, Teocaltiche,
> La Barca, Atotonilco el Alto and Zapotlan. perhaps one of the membership
> familiar with this may provide further insight of where the records of
> Encarnacion were before this time. Juan Martin De Torres 1750–Deceased •
> 9ZQ5-NFB Ana Jacinta De Los Santos 1753–Deceased • 9ZQ5-NYN
>

My grand parents, José María Martinez=Regina Peña, were born and emigrated via El Paso, TX, to the U. S. in the early 1900's. My grandfather was a "traquero" for the Atchinson, Topeka, & Kansas RR, beginning in Kansas, and ending in California, working now with the Southern Pacific RR, where he retired after 30-years. Quite a journey.

Paul Gomez
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 17, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Emilie Garcia wrote:
>
> Thanks for that info on Encarnacion, Alicia. Tony's great-grandparents immigrated from there, so it is good to know its history.
>
>
> Emilie
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Research on behalf of Alicia Carrillo
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 12:17 PM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thorres
>
> Encarnacion de Diaz, prior to becoming a municipality was part of two other
> Municipios, San Juan de Los Lagos and Teocaltiche Jalisco, depending on the
> proximity of each of these municipios. Encarnacion did not become a
> municipality until 1823.
>
> Alicia,
> San Jose, Ca
>
>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:45 AM, wrote:
>>
>> I just found another child born around 1765 (marriage records states he is
>> 28
>> yo) Claudio Since the children were it seems all born in Encarnacion de
>> Diaz,
>> Jalisco, his parents were probably married in the same location abt 1763-65
>> (last child might be 1785)only Encarnacion's records dont start until 1789
>> for IM and marriages 1778. I found that all of the following have a San
>> Antonio where Claudio was born Bolanos, San Juan de los Lagos, Teocaltiche,
>> La Barca, Atotonilco el Alto and Zapotlan. perhaps one of the membership
>> familiar with this may provide further insight of where the records of
>> Encarnacion were before this time. Juan Martin De Torres 1750–Deceased •
>> 9ZQ5-NFB Ana Jacinta De Los Santos 1753–Deceased • 9ZQ5-NYN
>>

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