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Arzola (Jalisco/Zacatecas/Aguascalientes/San Luis Potosi)

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By The Genealogist - Posted on 20 March 2016

I have two questions concerning the Arzola family:

The first is concerning the line of Capitan Don Pedro de Arzola, vecino y minero del Real de Panuco. He was married to Dona Cecilia Lopes de Soto. They were the parents of Maria, Josefa, Nicolasa, and Cecilia de Arzola. Cecilia de Arzola was the mother of Gertrudis de Avila, who married Juan de Salas. Juan de Salas and Gertrudis de Avila had Dona Maria Francisca de Salas who married Don Francisco del Muro.

Question 1: The line that connects Pedro de Arzola to Francisca de Salas seems to be generally accepted as true, but does anyone have an exact source for this? … A dispensa? …A reliable book?

The second question regards a crossover of states. Many of the early settlers of Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes, had relations in San Luis Potosi. As it turns out, there is an Arzola family located in San Luis Potosi which was contemporary to the Pedro de Arzola mentioned above.

The following information is abstracted from the book “Diccionario biografico de antiques pobladores de San Luis Potosi 1592-1666”:

Juan de Arzola I, Minero (estimated birth 1574, Guipuzcoa, Reinos de Castilla, died after 1606) married Dona Ines de Salas. They had:

1. Magdalena de Arzola (baptized 1 May 1594, San Luis Potosi), married to Capitan Andres Perez, “Labrador en el Valle de Mexquitic”, “aparece como proveedor local, en los almacenes reales de San Luis y San Miguel Mexquitic” (born about 1575, Villa de San Felipe, San Miguel, Nueva Espana, died after 13 August 1634 or after 10 February 1640);

2. Andres de Arzola (estimated birth 1589, died between January 1619 and 13 September 1632), married to Dona Ines de Salas y Valdes (died after 13 September 1632);

3. Juan de Arzola II, “Estante en San Bartolome de la Pendencia (Zacatecas)” (died after 15 April 1615);

4. Juana de Arzola (baptized 6 June 1599, San Luis Potosi, died after 23 August 1659), married to Bartolome Rodriguez Tenorio (born Villa de Jimena del Castellar, Reinos de Castilla, died after 11 February 1658).

Three unplaced individuals include: An Ambrosio de Arzola (born about 1574, died after 7 May 1599), a Martin de Arzola (estimated birth 1576, died after 15 April 1615), and a Pedro de Arzola (estimated birth 1582, died after April 1602).

Question 2: Has anyone seen anything that may connect the Arzolas of San Luis Potosi with the family of Capitan Don Pedro de Arzola, vecino y minero del Real del Panuco? … Could Pedro de Arzola of Panuco be the same as Pedro de Arzola of San Luis Potosi? … Could Pedro de Arzola be a son or brother of Juan de Arzola I?

¿Puedes decirme la época en que el capitán estuvo en Zacatecas, yo tengo una abuela María Juana de Arzola en las minas de Zacatecas hacia 1650 pero ¡venía de Perú!

This is not my line but I do have some family group sheets which may help with the San Luis Potosi Arzola family. I was researching the Perez de Alanis line and had found a reference that said Juan Perez de Alanis was related to Perez de Arzola. I’ve seen the name written Arzola, Alzola, Alcola and other variations, but will use Arzola from now on.

Take a look at the following FGS in my Dropbox:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yop1j3tqornd0xh/AABnVNtOvuDJtcuW0Gk5vgBHa?dl=0

Andres Perez cc Magdalena de Arzola

Diego Perez de Arzola cc Maria de Santa Cruz

Alonso Bernal cc Isabel de Salas

Luis de Salas y Valdez cc Ana de Rojas

Juan Perez de Alanis cc Isabel de Salas

Gabriel Ortiz de Fuenmayor cc Ysabel Perez de Alanis

Note that Alonso de Cardenas and his wife Maria de Arzola were godparents to Alonso de Salas (Rojas) on 16 Apr 1614 in Pinos. Not sure where she fits in.

Mary Lou

Hola otra vez:
De la búsqueda en Familysearch no se puede obtener evidencias de que ambas familias estén relacionadas entre sí, pero es muy probable. Actualmente está deshabilitada la Guía General del Archivo General de la Nación que podría ayudar.

Primero te contaré lo que yo sé: A mediados del siglo XVI pasó a Perú Don Francisco de Irarrazábal, gentilhombre de su majestad el Rey de Inglaterra, lo acompañaba un séquito de familias de orígen vasco , entre ellos la familia Gárate cuya descendencia quedó en Perú, pero una parte pasó a Zacatecas. Algunos de los miembros de éste grupo, proceden de Elgoibar.

Por otro lado el prior de los frailes dominicos en Nueva Galicia era Fray Domingo de Alzola, que llegó a ser obispo. Con su nombre en el buscador aparecen varios libros y artículos.

En PARES encontré los siguientes registros, todos a Nueva España:

1582 INDIFERENTE 740,N.65 Fray Domingo de Alzola para la Iglesia de Jalisco.

1590 INDIFERENTE,2065,N.57 Licencia a Alonso de Santoyo y para Ambrosio de Asola, hijo de Pedro de Ansola, natural de Elgoibar.

1607 CONTRATACION, 5299,N.2, P.45 Licencia a Juan Pérez de Alsola criado de Francisco Hernández Osorio, natual de Elgoibar, hijo de Juan Pérez de Alzola y de María de Zavala.

1621 CONTRATACION,5368,N.19 Juan de Alzola natural de Elgoibar hijo de Domingo de Alzola y de Ana de Azcárate pasa en compañía del contador Matheo de Aróstegui.

En Familysearch encontré otra familia del mismo grupo:
Bautismo el 27 de febrero de 1659, en la Santa Veracruz, Ciudad de México de Francisca hija de Juan de Arasola Yrasaval y de Laura María de Sandoval.

Es casi seguro que las dos familias están relaciondas porque proceden del mismo lugar, pero afirmar que el Pedro de Arzola de San Luis Potosí es el mismo que el de Pánuco, de momento sería difícil, tal vez cuando se pueda consultar la Guía General aparezcan en los ramos de Tierras o Mercedes.

Posiblemente haya información en las páginas de genealogía vasca de Elgoibar, porque de los Gárate sí encontré una página que organizaba toda las ramas.

Saludos
Marcelina Macías

Hola:

Te aviso que en la lista de matrimonios de la Sierra de Pinos hay varios Alcola con apóstrofe, lo que significa que se pronunciaba Alzola.

Es un post reciente subido por J. Refugio Hermosillo. Ojalá y encuentres a tu familia.

Marcelina

Hello David,

Marcelina is correct, some of the children of Joan de Alçola (how he signed his name) and Ynes de Salas do appear as testigos & padrinos in the early San Matias Pinos archives. When did your Pedro Arzola cc Cecilia Lopes de Soto live?

I have found various documents regarding Joan de Alçola in the SLP misc archives: here's his testamento, dated 1596. He names their legitimate children, as well as 2 hijos naturales that he fathered with Engracia de la Olacaval, in Los Ramos de Zacatecas, named Mariana Arzola (b. 1571) and Andres Arzola (b 1574).
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-958X-SWLK?i=137&cc=2040013

He names Doctor Juan de Bernal clerigo as his brother, and Pedro de Arzola as his cousin.

Though this Pedro de Arzola does appear in SLP and in old Sierra de Pinos, I don't know if he is the same from Panuco. Here he is, registering a mine 27 Jan 1597:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G58X-SZHB?cc=2040013

And here he is, baptizing an hijo natural, named Pedro: 11 Feb 1607:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9G2L-1MC?cc=1860864

The name "Pedro" coincides in both lines, but then, it was a very popular name in early San 'Pedro' Minas de Potosi. Nonetheless, Joan de Alçola definitely lived previously in Zacatecas (where most of the founders of SLP originated). And then there's the "Salas" surname, which appears in both lines. Worth looking into.

Saludos!
Manny Diez Hermosillo

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