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By CindyF - Posted on 13 November 2015

I recently ran across a church baptismal record on familysearch.org that stated "abuelos incognitos". This doesn't seem to me that the grandparents were unknown but for some reason are unlisted.
Has anyone run across this before? Why would the grandparents not be named? Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for any insight.

Cindy (Barela) Fahrbach
email: genie_research@hotmail.com
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Researching: Banegas, Barela, Cutler,
De La O, Fahrbach, Jimenez, Keller,
May, Navarro, Starnes, Utley, Ybarra
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You have to remember that the child's mother was usually not present at the
baptism. She was observing "La Quarentena" For 40 days after the birth of
the child she was confined to her home for bed rest, not allowed to leave
the house or do any housework. This is probably the only time in her life
that she was cared for by others, her parents, siblings, in-laws or
husband.

The Padrinos or Godparents would be present at the baptism and maybe the
father. The Godparents may not have known the names of all the
grandparents, therefore Incognito, or unknown.

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Cindy F wrote:

> I recently ran across a church baptismal record on familysearch.org that
> stated "abuelos incognitos". This doesn't seem to me that the grandparents
> were unknown but for some reason are unlisted.
> Has anyone run across this before? Why would the grandparents not be
> named? Any ideas?
> Thanks in advance for any insight.
>
> Cindy (Barela) Fahrbach
> email: genie_research@hotmail.com
> ----------------------------------------
> Researching: Banegas, Barela, Cutler,
> De La O, Fahrbach, Jimenez, Keller,
> May, Navarro, Starnes, Utley, Ybarra
> ----------------------------------------

Some records have the granparents some dont when they dont have them
recorded they are unknown or incognito.

Some form based baptism dont have the granparents recorded for some reason
and some do.

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago "El Euforia".

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 5:32 AM, Cindy F wrote:

> I recently ran across a church baptismal record on familysearch.org that
> stated "abuelos incognitos". This doesn't seem to me that the grandparents
> were unknown but for some reason are unlisted.
> Has anyone run across this before? Why would the grandparents not be
> named? Any ideas?
> Thanks in advance for any insight.
>
> Cindy (Barela) Fahrbach
> email: genie_research@hotmail.com
> ----------------------------------------
> Researching: Banegas, Barela, Cutler,
> De La O, Fahrbach, Jimenez, Keller,
> May, Navarro, Starnes, Utley, Ybarra
> ----------------------------------------

Hola Cindy:

Existieron varias razones para ocultar el nombre de los padres de un niño, pudo ser una relación que no era socialmente aceptable, o que causara deshonra de acuerdo a las reglas de la época. Era mejor aceptado el hijo que se tenía con mujer soltera que con mujer casada, porque podría dañar a la familia ya establecida. Pero un indicio importante para conocer la identidad es el nombre de los padrinos, porque muchas veces son miembros del mismo clan.

Tengo un caso cercano en que una mujer acudió a bautizar una niña como su hija natural, pero no era posible ya que esa mujer se encontraba embarazada de un hijo que nació a los pocos meses y además era casada y el marido no acudió, pero sí reconoció al hijo que nació poco después. Hemos pensado que se trata de la abuela que bautizó a una nieta posiblemente hija de un hija de 17 años. La niña la entregó a su hermano y a su cuñada para que la criaran y le pusieron sus apellidos sin registrarla.

Saludos

Marcelina

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