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By dcalonso - Posted on 15 October 2015

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

Could someone in the Forum tell me what this says about my ancestor Pedro
Macias Valades. It doesnt look like it says the same stuff as usual

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-148834-26?cc=1502404&wc=M6QX-Y3D:64894501,64894502,69035101

Danny C. Alonso

It says that he (Pedro) died suddenly, and thus he did not received the sacraments neither he made a testament:

...fallecio repentinamente Po. Masias Balades español marido de Luissa de Villegas española, no recivio los Tos. Sacramentos, Porque secaio muerto (fell dead), No testo, diosele sepultura en esta Parrochial, Poco mas abaxo del altar de S. Lorenço. disele missa de cuerpo presste. y pa que conste...

By the way I have an ancestor with the Masias name in Nochistlán from the beggining of the 1700, but I end up with a dead end there, I wonder if they come from Aguascalientes.

Danny,

Unfortunately he did not receive the sacraments because he suddenly died.

Regards,
Juan

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 1:58 AM, Danny Alonso wrote:

> Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,
>
> Could someone in the Forum tell me what this says about my ancestor Pedro
> Macias Valades. It doesnt look like it says the same stuff as usual
>
>
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-148834-26?cc=1502404&wc=M6QX-Y3D:64894501,64894502,69035101
>
> Danny C. Alonso

Al lado dice que no recibió los sacramentos ni testo porque su muerte fue de repente
Dice que fue marido de Luisa Villegas

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2015, at 12:58 AM, Danny Alonso wrote:
>
> Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,
>
> Could someone in the Forum tell me what this says about my ancestor Pedro
> Macias Valades. It doesnt look like it says the same stuff as usual
>
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-148834-26?cc=1502404&wc=M6QX-Y3D:64894501,64894502,69035101
>
> Danny C. Alonso

Dice en la villa de Aguascalientes22 septiembre de 1649 años falleció repentinamente P Macías Valadez marido de Luisa de Villegas , no recibió los sacramentos porque se cayo muerto no testo, diosele sepultura en esta parroquia un poco más abajo de San Lorenzo diosele misa de cuerpo presente
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2015, at 1:43 PM, Martha Gomez wrote:
>
> También dice que se le dio sepultura en la parroquia más abajo del altar de san Lorenzo
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 12:58 AM, Danny Alonso wrote:
>>
>> Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,
>>
>> Could someone in the Forum tell me what this says about my ancestor Pedro
>> Macias Valades. It doesnt look like it says the same stuff as usual
>>
>>
>> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-148834-26?cc=1502404&wc=M6QX-Y3D:64894501,64894502,69035101
>>
>> Danny C. Alonso

También dice que se le dio sepultura en la parroquia más abajo del altar de san Lorenzo

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 15, 2015, at 12:58 AM, Danny Alonso wrote:
>
> Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,
>
> Could someone in the Forum tell me what this says about my ancestor Pedro
> Macias Valades. It doesnt look like it says the same stuff as usual
>
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-148834-26?cc=1502404&wc=M6QX-Y3D:64894501,64894502,69035101
>
> Danny C. Alonso

Thank you Martha and Juan and RJQ for all your help. RJQ, who is your
Macias from Nochistlan? I'd be interested to see if he connects to my
Maciases.

Danny C. Alonso

This person's name was Clara Masias who merried Nicolas Lozano (I suspect he is from the Lozano related to the Sandobal) but I couldn't go beyond this couple, specially when I have to put more weight on other lines, I remember seen Masias and Lozano in Aguascalientes but never manage to have further links on them. This couple had kids in the 1710-20's in Nochistlán, I guess this Clara Masias could been born in 1700 more or less. I think she could have other name than Clara, but the only three records I found only mention her with this one.

I too have this couple in Nochistlan. My connection is their son Nicolas married to Josepha Quirarte in Nochistlan on 02 of Oct. 1743. Aka as Clara Maria Macias Valades, she died on the 18th of June 1724 in Nochistlan image # 239. This happened a year later after the birth of her third son Antonio born on the 31st of March 1723 in Nochistlan Zac.

Thank you Saul for this piece of information, except for a few years, I haven't had a chance to see the burial records of Nochistlán.

Then if Nicolas was also their son that makes a least four children, right?. I always suspected that the Lozano (three of them) that married with the Quiralte where related if not siblings, this confirms me that a least Nicolas and Joseph Laureano where brothers, the third would be María Lozano married with Victorio Caietano Q.

And Clara is after all from the Macias Valades. I, by the way, descend from Joseph L. Lozano and Estefana Lorenza Q. siblings in each side of your ancestors Nicolas and Josepha.

RJQ I also have Estefana Lorenza's parents(Joseph Quirarte and Leonor de Robles) in another family line. As per marriage doc for Joseph Losano and Maria Lorenza Quirarte dated 05 May 1735 in Nochistlan image # 429. I have to check my notes on the Quirartes to see what other information I have on Joseph and Leonor. I will get back to you.

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