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By mercadoh - Posted on 01 August 2015

Are your children learning that a Spanish/Latino/creole army and navy ran the British out of most of what became the southern U.S. during the Revolutionary War? Check their U.S. history books! If the index doesn't list ”Galvez” and the “Siege of Pensacola” write your school board!

Any book that lists Lafayette but not Galvez is distorting history. IMO.

Hi Danny,

As a recent High School graduate I can attest that there are many teachers that need to be educated about our culture and history. I took every opportunity to do that while in school, especially as a junior and senior. I know it may be difficult and uncomfortable, but, if you hear something about our history that you know to be incorrect, you should definitely take the time to educate the teachers. Whether, that means bringing in one of the recommended books or printing out an article about our history from SomosPrimos, or just sending the teacher a link that will better educate them. It's especially sad when the teacher ignoring our history or teaching something false about our people, happens to have ancestors from Mexico. I once brought in a stack of articles to educate one such teacher. But, it turned out, she was actually very receptive and used many of those articles in a class discussion the following day. And, remember, every time you learn something new about our history and culture doing genealogical research and as a member of this forum, you can use that knowledge to educate others around you and provide them a true history of our people.

Christopher de Cuellar

Thank You Mr. Hernandez and Alicia and Christopher for your advice and for
the books to check out. I will go to the library and start looking for all
of them. I already learned more since joining the Nuestros Ranchos Forum
than I have in high school.

Danny C. Alonso

Danny,

You'll have lots of support along the way with Nuestros Ranchos. Join your
local Latino Genealogical Society wherever you live, it helps to have face
to face contact with other people with similar areas of research. It's a
great opportunity to bounce ideas off of people and to have others assist
you along the way.......where do you live?

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Danny Alonso wrote:

> Thank You Mr. Hernandez and Alicia and Christopher for your advice and for
> the books to check out. I will go to the library and start looking for all
> of them. I already learned more since joining the Nuestros Ranchos Forum
> than I have in high school.
>
> Danny C. Alonso

Thank you Alicia, I don't know if theres a genealogical society in my town
but maybe. I live in Dublin.

Danny C. Alonso

Danny,

I know how you feel. My nephrologist (kidney doctor) is young enough to be my son (I am 77) and he goes all over the country doing seminars, etc since he is a highly respected expert in his field. He has really helped me, save my life you might say. But one time for some reason we were discussing Texas and I told him it had once belonged to Mexico. He said, "Oh, no, Texas never belonged to anybody". Arrrgh. That from one of the most highly educated people. He knows medicine, but nothing about American history.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:29:44 -0700
> From: allieavelar@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Getting History Straight
>
> Danny,
>
> Now it's your turn to teach your teachers a little something about Mexican
> history. There are many wonderful books but one exceptional book in English
> is the War for Mexico's West, by Professor and Historian, Ida Altman. It
> can be purchased at Better World Books, Abe's Books, Amazon and Barnes and
> Noble.
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Danny Alonso wrote:
>
> > Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,
> >
> > I'm in high school and I never knew any of this and the teachers don't know
> > about Mexico at all. The only time Mexico ever was mentioned they told us
> > that Mexico was just Spanish people and Aztec people. I told my teacher
> > there was lots of tribes and even Aftrican Americans in Mexico and she said
> > that was silly, just Spanish People and Aztecs.
> >
> > Danny C. Alonso
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Danny,

There are also maps online that show the territory now in the US that was once Mexico. By 1846 Mexico lost half its territory to the US.

There are also maps that show the locations of the more than 200 Native tribes in Mexico. Bet your teacher also didn't know that Mexico in the 1500s and 1600s also imported black slaves. My research shows that some of my father's ancestors were "mulato".

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:29:44 -0700
> From: allieavelar@gmail.com > To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Getting History Straight
>
> Danny,
>
> Now it's your turn to teach your teachers a little something about Mexican
> history. There are many wonderful books but one exceptional book in English
> is the War for Mexico's West, by Professor and Historian, Ida Altman. It
> can be purchased at Better World Books, Abe's Books, Amazon and Barnes and
> Noble.
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Danny Alonso wrote:
>
> > Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,
> >
> > I'm in high school and I never knew any of this and the teachers don't know
> > about Mexico at all. The only time Mexico ever was mentioned they told us
> > that Mexico was just Spanish people and Aztec people. I told my teacher
> > there was lots of tribes and even Aftrican Americans in Mexico and she said
> > that was silly, just Spanish People and Aztecs.
> >
> > Danny C. Alonso
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
> >

If you print out a copy of a map showing the original territory of Mexico, or if you have the internet on your smart phone or iPad, or if someone in class does, you can show them that Mexico was once twice the size it is now, and that the states of California, Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Texas, parts of Louisiana etc were Mexico the other students will believe you. Students sometimes have to do their own research. You can also bring up lists of the various tribes in Mexico to show that not "just Spanish and Aztecs" live there. Also there might be a new immigrant from Mexico at the school who might want to give a presentation about Mexico, if it is not discouraged. I didn't know how ignorant some adults in this country are about our neighbor to the south.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 16:06:36 -0700
> From: dcalonso97@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Getting History Straight
>
> Hello
>
> I'll look for that book and I'll try to teach them but sometimes it's hard
> after the teacher says they don't believe something and the students only
> believe the teacher.
>
> Danny C. Alonso

Next time show them a map like this one

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Mexico_1835-1846_administrative_map-es.svg/1024px-Mexico_1835-1846_administrative_map-es.svg.png

SFHL

Thank you Emilie and Mr. Hernandez. That map is so cool. Only since being a
part of the Nuestros Ranchos Forum did I know that Mexico once owned so
much of America. We were once supposed to talk about The Alamo in our
textbook but the teacher skipped it to talk more about the civil war.

Danny C. Alonso

And don't they wonder why we have The Alamo in the middle of San Antonio? It was once a mission and fort named after a cottonwood tree in Spanish. Don't they wonder why we have cities with Spanish saints' names like San Francisco, San Diego, Sacramento, etc. etc.? I heard of someone visiting San Antonio and asking why they put "The Alamo" in the middle of the city. They don't know it used to be the only thing out there and the city grew around it, just like Los Angeles grew around a tiny mission church out in the middle of what used to be a desert?

Emilie

> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 20:13:08 -0700
> From: dcalonso97@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Getting History Straight
>
> Thank you Emilie and Mr. Hernandez. That map is so cool. Only since being a
> part of the Nuestros Ranchos Forum did I know that Mexico once owned so
> much of America. We were once supposed to talk about The Alamo in our
> textbook but the teacher skipped it to talk more about the civil war.
>
> Danny C. Alonso

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