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Possible Family of Benito de Isla and Petronila de Moctezuma

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By The Genealogist - Posted on 26 May 2015

Hello,

I have recently discovered that I descend from a Benito de Isla whose many descendants spread throughout Nochistlan. I hit the brick wall there, and I do not know who Benito’s wife was. Normally I would assume that the traceable ancestry ends there. However, I have spotted miscellaneously placed postings that allude to a specific ancestry for Benito de Isla and his unnamed wife when they are all placed together. Unfortunately I have been unable to pinpoint the sources for most of these postings – this is where I need help.

But to start with:

PART 1: What is Provable:

From the primary sources that I have been able to access and see with my own eyes, I have mapped out the following:

Benito de Isla was the father of Magdalena de Lavezaris (wife of Francisco Gonzalez) and Maria de Isla y Moctezuma (wife of Capitan Andres Martinez de Sotomayor). This same Benito de Isla also had a natural mestiza daughter named Maria de Isla.

There is another Maria de Isla who was married to Christobal Martinez Lozano and had a family in Aguascalientes. This Maria de Isla (wife of Christobal Martinez Lozano) had a sister named Petronila de Isla.

PART 2: What I suspect (Part A): The Maria de Isla’s:

I think that the Maria de Isla (the mestiza) is possibly one and the same with the Maria de Isla who was married to Christobal Martinez Lozano. However, I have not seen this Maria de Isla (wife of Christobal Martinez Lozano) ever mentioned as anything but “espanol;” the same goes for her children. Then again I have seen many examples within these Mexican colonial records were people who are more accurately and originally described as mixed race, appear later in life described as “espanol”. If these two Maria de Isla’s are the same person then Benito de Isla is also the father of Petronila de Isla.

I do not think the Maria de Isla (wife of Chritobal Martinez Lozano) is the same person as Maria de Isla y Moctezuma (wife of Capitan Andres Martinez de Sotomayor). There seem to be too many children born to both of these women to be same one.

Does anyone have any opinions on this?

PART 2: What I suspect (Part B): The Lavezaris Connection:

Since Benito de Isla had a daughter who used the name Magdalena de Lavezaris. That name must have come from somewhere further back. I think that Benito de Isla is the son of a Bernardino de Isla and another Magdalena de Lavezaris who was the sister of Guido de Lavezaris, Governor-General of the Philippines.

Does anyone have any opinions on this?

PART 2: What I suspect (Part C): The Moctezuma Connection:

Since Benito de Isla had a daughter who used the name Maria de Isla y Moctezuma. That name must have come from somewhere further back. I suspect the connection was matrilineal but have never seen a wife listed for Benito de Isla from my own research. (Benito de Isla possibly being the father of Petronila de Isla also comes into play here.)

I have spotted a few interesting postings that allude to Benito de Isla’s wife. However, they are un-sourced postings, I have been unable to make contact with the people who posted them, and have not been able to pinpoint any primary sources for the following:

From other’s Postings:

1. I have seen a forum (here at Nuestros Ranchos) where a Petronila de Isla is described as being the daughter of a Benito de Isla and a Juana Navarro. I have been unable to contact the person who posted this. Does anyone know where this information comes from?

2. I have seen a tree on Ancestry.com where Benito de Isla is married to a Juana Navarro. Here Juana Navarro dies 28 Dec 1651 in Teocaltiche. The death records in Teocaltiche do not go back that far. Does anyone know where this information comes from?

3. In another tree on Ancestry.com, Benito de Isla is married to a Juana “Navarro y Moctezuma.” Wonderful, if her name actually appears this way, but does anyone know where this information comes from?

4. I have seen forums of the couple Martin de Gabay Navarro and Petronila de Moctezuma as having 4 children: Ana-Francisca, Maria, Christobal, and JUANA. Ana-Francisca, Maria, and Christobal are provable children via various dispensas. But where does the information of this couple also having a daughter named Juana come from? Does anyone know?

PART 3 Conclusions?:

All of this starts to lean in a certain direction. Let us assume that, outside of what is provable, what I suspect is true and what others have posted is also true; that all that is needed is to pinpoint a few more sources. Then the following is a possible reconstruction of the whole picture:

Benito de Isla (son of Bernardino de Isla and Magdalena de Lavezaris) married a Juana Navarro (daughter of Martin de Gabay Navarro and Petronila de Moctezuma) and had as daughters Magdalena de Lavezaris (named after her paternal grandmother), Maria de Isla y Moctezuma (partially named after her maternal grandmother), Petronila de Isla (also partially named after her maternal grandmother), with the additional Maria de Isla (the Mestiza daughter born from another woman).

Chronologically it fits, though a little tight on Petronila de Moctezuma’s side if we assume she was born about 1552, allegedly had the said Juana by 1572, Juana having Magdalena de Lavezaris and Maria de Isla y Moctezuma by the time she was age 15 c. 1587, and both Madalena and Maria also starting to have children by about age 15, since most of their traceable children have their earliest estimated birth years in the late 1600’s early 1610’s. Keep in mind that 15 is a typical age for young girls to marry in this time period.

I would appreciate any opinions, corrections, or primary sources on these matters which may prove or refute the possible reconstruction of this tree.

Regards,

David

Hi Danny,

Your Andrés Martín de Sotomayor and the Andrés Martín de Sotomayor that's married to Juana Cayetana de Villalobos are both grandchildren of Andrés Martín de Sotomayor and María de Isla y Moctezuma.

Andrés Martín de Sotomayor that's married to Juana Cayetana de Villalobos is the son of Andrés Martín de Sotomayor and Beatriz de Mayorga. Your Andres Martín de Sotomayor that's married to Lucia de Chávez is the son of Nicolás Martín de Sotomayor and Simona López de la Cerda, my 9th great grandparents.

Andrés Martín de Sotomayor and María de Isla y Moctezuma

Andres Martín de Sotomayor...................1..................Nicolás Martín de Sotomayor
m. Beatriz de Mayorga................................................m. Simona López de la Cerda

Andres Martín de Sotomayor...................2.................Andres Martín de Sotomayor
m. Juana Cayetana de Villalobos................................m. Lucia de Chávez

Chris

Chris do you have the record that shows the that Nicolas Martin de
Sotomayor and Simon Lopez de Cerda are the parents. I couldn't find it

Danny C. Alonso

Hi Danny,

Andrés Martín de Sotomayor and Lucía de Chávez were married in Aguascalientes on 8 Oct 1688. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12446-30313-70?cc=1502404&wc=M99K-3ZB:n613764233

The marriage record proves Lucía de Chávez is the daughter Diego de Chávez Fragoso and Antonia de Villalobos and Andrés Martín de Sotomayor is the son of Nicolás Martín de Sotomayor and Simona López de la Cerda.

Nicolás Martín de Sotomayor and Simona López de la Cerda were married in Teocaltiche on 17 Sep 1667. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19053-3386-35?cc=1874591

Simona López de la Cerda was the daughter of Agustín López de la Cerda and Lucía Rodríguez and Nicolás Martín de Sotomayor is the son of Andrés Martín de Sotomayor and María de Isla y Moctezuma.

Agustín López de la Cerda and Lucía Rodríguez were married in San Luis Potosi on 13 Nov 1635. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-20439-1732-39?cc=1860864

Agustín López de la Cerda is the son of Francisco López and Francisca de los Ángeles. Lucía Rodríguez is the daughter of Antonio Rodríguez and Catalina de Victoria.

Antonio Rodríguez and Catalina de Victoria were married 1 Jun 1601 in Pátzcuaro, Michoacán. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18745-47850-56?cc=1883388

Only the bride, Catalina de Victoria's parents were named. They are Hernando Díaz Infante and Juliana de Victoria. 

Chris
 

Is there a reason only Catalina Victoria parents are the only ones named?

Danny C. Alonso

Hi Danny,
I'm not sure why Catalina de Victoria's parents are the only ones named. But, if you look at the marriage record, it says that Antonio Rodríguez was not in attendance at his wedding but was represented by Juan Diaz Ynfante. Maybe, because he wasn't there the scribe didn't record his parents names.
    
"En las casas de la morada de Hernando Diaz Yn-     
fante desta ciudad de Pazquaro, primero dia del mes de     
Junio de mill y seyscientos y un años, yo Juan Perez Poca-     
sangre, beneficiado della, despose y case por palabras de     
presente a Antonio Rodriguez, ausente, por persona de     
Juan Diaz Ynfante, con licencia que para ello traxo     
del provisor deste obispado, con Catalina de Vitoria,     
hija de Hernando Diaz Ynfante y de Juliana de Vitoria,     
vezinos desta dicha ciudad de Pazquaro, siendo testigos     
Hernando Parga y Francisco ? y Fernando Orhua,     
vezinos desta dicha ciudad.     

Juan Perez Pocasangre"

Chris

Chris,

Coincidentally, I am researching a couple in San Luis Potosi/Armadillo de los Infante who are contemporary with your Francisco Lopez and Francisca de los Angeles.

They are Domingo de Castro and Maria de los Angeles. “De los Angeles” appears to be a surname among their descendants, not an added tack-on to a personal name. Therefore I suspect that Maria de los Angeles and Francisca de los Angeles might be sisters.

Do you have any evidence that could support this? For example, do a Domingo de Castro or Maria de los Angeles appear as padrinos anywhere among the descendants of Francisco Lopez and Francisca de los Angeles?

Please let me know if they do,

Regards,

David

Hi David,
I actually haven't started researching this couple yet. Bill Figueroa mentions them here in relation to the Lopez de la Cerda: http://www.nuestrosranchos.com/en/node/20380?page=1  but, beyond that, I don't really have anything. The marriage of Agustín López de la Cerda and Lucía Rodríguez de Victoria says that Francisco López and Francisca de los Angeles are vecinos de Zacatecas, but, that's it. If I come across any mention of Domingo de Castro or María de los Angeles, I'll let you know. 
Chris

I just noticed that the scribe who penned Isabel de Moctezuma’s will in 1550 was a Diego de Isla. I wonder if he is related to our Benito de Isla. If so, this would show that there has been an affiliation between the “Islas” and the “Moctezumas” from as early as 1550 and might explain why one of Benito’s daughters born by about 1600 used the name “Maria de Isla y Moctezuma.”

What still needs to be determined is who from the Moctezuma clan married over to the Isla clan for Benito’s daughter to use the name “Moctezuma”?

Hi Geneaologist

Sounds interesting...if you saw it on an image of the original will, could you post a link to it?

Regards
Denise

Denise,

I noticed an archival post of yours regarding the Sotelo Moctezuma where
you posted the defunción of doña Francisca Sotelo and her testamento before
the juéz público, Diego de Isla Heredia. Perhaps, there's a connection
between the judge Diego de Isla Heredia and the royal scribe Diego de Isla.

doña Francisca Sotelo:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18758-5851-92?cc=1883388&wc=M99L-T1Z:n915308223

Original post:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.com/en/node/21898#comment-26369

Paige

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