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By Evie - Posted on 06 May 2015

Maria Del Refugio Ornelas was the daughter of Benito Ornelas (San Diego de Alejandria) and Ana Rita Del Carmen Gascon Barrera. Maria was married to Lugardo Fonceca and their children were born in the 1840's. Any assistance or connection would be welcome!

Hello Evie,

Benito Ornelas is the son of Jose Blas Ornelas and Maria de San Juan Perez

Benito was married to Ana Rita del Carmen on 28Feb1808 in Santa Maria de Guadalupe, Arandas

Ana Rita del Carmen is the daughter of Jose Nicolas Herrera and Juana Josefa Gascon

Jose Nicolas Herrera and Juana Josefa Gascon were married 4/Mar/1783 in San Agustin,Ayo El Chico,Jalisco,Mexico
Film number: 280788

You have Ana Rita del Carmen using her mothers maiden name of Gascon which was common in those days.

Good luck in your research,

R A Ricci

Hello Evie,
Here is what I found for this couple which is also on the online program Wikitree where you can find the sources and additional information. I was hoping to connect to my Ornelas and Perez ancestors from Encarnacion de Diaz. Please let me know if you find additional information on Jose Blas Ornelas and Maria de San Juan Perez.

Best regards
Austin Perez

Generation 1: María del Refugio Ornelas

1. María del Refugio Ornelas: Born 1826. Died [date unknown].

Generation 2: Parents of María del Refugio Ornelas

2. Benito Ornelas: Born Barranca (Arandas), Nueva Galicia [Jalisco, México] abt 1790. Died [date unknown]. Father of 1. Son of 4 & 5.

3. Ana Rita del Carmen Herrera: Born Capulín (Arandas), Nueva Galicia [Jalisco, México] abt 1790. Died [date unknown]. Mother of 1. Daughter of 6 & 7.

Generation 3: Grandparents of María del Refugio Ornelas

4. José Blas Ornelas: Born 1760. Died [date unknown]. Father of 2. Son of 8 & 9.

5. María de San Juan Pérez: Born abt 1760. Died [date unknown]. Mother of 2. Daughter of 10 & 11.

6. José Nicolás de Herrera: Born Capulín (Ayo el Chico), Nueva Galicia [Jalisco, México] abt 1760. Died [date unknown]. Father of 3. Son of 12 & 13.

7. Juana Josefa Gascón: Born abt Jul 1761. Died [date unknown]. Mother of 3. Daughter of 14 & 15.

Generation 4: Great-Grandparents of María del Refugio Ornelas

8. [Great-Grandfather Unknown] Father of 4. Son of 16 & 17.

9. [Great-Grandmother Unknown] Mother of 4. Daughter of 18 & 19.

10. [Great-Grandfather Unknown] Father of 5. Son of 20 & 21.

11. [Great-Grandmother Unknown] Mother of 5. Daughter of 22 & 23.

12. José de Herrera: Born [date unknown]. Died bef 04 Mar 1783. Father of 6. Son of 24 & 25.

13. María Antonia Ascencio de Torres: Born abt 1740. Died [date unknown]. Mother of 6. Daughter of 26 & 27.

14. José Miguel Gascón: Born abt 1740. Died [date unknown]. Father of 7. Son of 28 & 29.

15. Rita de Rivas: Born abt 1740. Died [date unknown]. Mother of 7. Daughter of 30 & 31.

Generation 1: Lugardo Fonseca

1. Lugardo Fonseca: Born 1822. Died [date unknown].

Generation 2: Parents of Lugardo Fonseca

2. Andrés Fonseca: Born abt 1800. Died [date unknown]. Father of 1. Son of 4 & 5.

3. María Petra Rodríguez: Born abt 1800. Died [date unknown]. Mother of 1. Daughter of 6 & 7.

Generation 3: Grandparents of Lugardo Fonseca

4. Rafael Fonseca: Born abt 1780. Died [date unknown]. Father of 2. Son of 8 & 9.

5. Antonia Hernández: Born abt 1780. Died [date unknown]. Mother of 2. Daughter of 10 & 11.

6. Salvador Rodríguez: Born abt 1780. Died [date unknown]. Father of 3. Son of 12 & 13.

7. María Guadalupe Rodríguez: Born abt 1780. Died [date unknown]. Mother of 3. Daughter of 14 & 15.

I have as Maria Rita de Ribas Bartola as Joseph Miguel Gascon's wife.

I have juana Josefa Gascon as baptized on 6/July/1761, Ayo el Chico Jalisco

I have Jose Nicolas Herrera as born 19/Jun/1757. This may be a baptismal date

Jose Nicolas Hererra is the son of Jose Cayetano Herrera and Antonia Ascencio de Torres y Alvarez del Castillo {see his ancestry below}

Antonia de Torres is the daughter of Juan Antonio Ascencio de Torres y Camarena Hurtado de Mendoza and Juana Gertrudis Alvarez del Castillo y Zepeda

Jose Caytetano Herrera married Antonia Asencio de Torres in San Agustin Ayo el Chico (Ayotlan) on 16/Feb/1749. Image # 61 film # 280787.

The parents of Conquistador Juan de Baeza are Diego Lopez de Fuenllana and Maria Lopez.

The conquistadors wife, isabel Perez is the daughter of Francisco Santella and his wife who remains unnamed but was the daughter of Cristobal Castillo ( aka Torres ) and Leonor Perez

Descent From conquistador Juan de Baeza to Jose Nicolas Herrera:

Conquistador Juan de Baeza and his wife Isabel Perez are the parents of Catalina Lopez de Fuenllana

Catalina Lopez de Fuenllana married Alonso Lupiana and they are the parents of Maria Lupiana (1)

Maria Lupina married Duarte Fernandez Crespo. They had a daughter named after her mother, Maria Lupina (2)

Maria Lupiana (2) married Juan Alvarez del Castillo (b.1575) and they are the parents of Nicolas Alvarez del Castillo

Nicolas Alvarez del Castillo married Ines Mendoza de la Mora ( daughter of Manuel De la Mora and Juana Avina y Mendoza Avina)
Nicolas and Ines are the parents of Ramon Alvarez del Castillo

Ramon Alvarez del Castillois married to Maria De Magana "Ulloa o Vargas de Sahagun" (daughter of Andres Jimenez de Magana and Beatriz Vargas de Sahagun)
Ramon Alvarez del Castillo and M D Magana are the parents of Nicolas Alvarez del Castillo

Nicolas Alvarez del Castillo and Thomasa Zepeda (daughter of Francisco Zepeda and Anna Morfin de Liebana)
Nicolas andThomasa are the parents of Juana Gertrudis Alvarez del Castillo

Juana Gertrudis Alvarez del Castillo married Juan Antonio Ascencio de Torres and they are the parents of

Antonia Ascencio de Torres is married to Jose Cayetano Herrera

They are the parents of Jose Nicolas Herrera who married Juana Josefa Gascon

The Herrera family came to Jalisco from Michoacan. I have more information on the Herrera and a strong lead that I have not had the time to follow up on because of I'm currently working on other projects. A search of Maria de Jesus Herrera and Ruperto del Refugio Herrea informacion matrimonial may lead to connecting Jose cayetano Herrera to tree that I have already compiled on Ruperto del Refugio Herrera side. Rupert's line goes back to the first Herrera in Ayo el Chico/arandas area that came from Michoacan.

Maria de Jesus Herrera is a great grand daughter of Jose Nicolas Herrera and Juana Josefa Gascon. She was married on 8/Jan/1879 arandas. Jalisco

I worked on this information many years ago when I was researching the genealogy of my first cousin Doctor Edmundo Andrade Romo.

Edmundo just published a book that has some of my research. I have not read the book yet, but his mother, my maternal aunt called me the day before yesterday to tell me that it was finally published and that the book would soon be in my hands. She warned me that the publisher made some mistakes and that a second edition is in the works to make the corrections. This is his fathers branch whose family was from Arandas/Ayo el Chico.

I have more info

R A Ricci

I was looking through old postings and I chanced upon this one, which mentions the following pair:

Nicolas Alvarez del Castillo & Tomasa de Zepeda y Morfin de Liebana

In the Alvarez del Castillo chapter of his book, Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia, Mariano Gonzalez Leal states that Nicolas Alvarez del Castillo, “Hizo información matrimonial en Chilchota el 5 de agosto de 1705 para casar con doña Tomasa de Zepeda y Mofrin de Liébana, hija de don Francisco y de doña Anna.”

I have searched the Chilchota relevant films and I can’t locate it. Can someone please direct me to it?

Thank you.

where do I find documentation for my line before Juan Alvarez del Castillo and Maria Lupiana who are my 9th Great grandparents through my maternal side? I have not been able to find anything earlier than them.
my line is
Juan Alvarez del Castillo and Maria Lupiana parents of
Nicolas Alvarez del Castillo and Ynes Mendosa parents of
Nicolas Alvarez del Castillo and Josefa Torres y Guerrero parents of
Esteban Alvarez del Castillo and Gertrudis Valencia parents of
Eucelia/Celia Alvarez del Castillo and Manuel Gerardo Gutierrez parents of
Benito Gutierrez and Guadalupe Suniga parents of
Ygnacio Gutierrez and Petra Paula Mendoza parents of
Ventura Gutierrez and Petra Vega parents of
Longino Gutierrez and Merced Munguia parents of
Marcelino Gutierrez and Rafaela Villanueva parents of my Mother
Dolores Gutierrez and Chet Castanon parents of
Erlinda Castanon

Your research is amazing!

I was looking into the Gascón-Rivas lines and I found Joseph Miguel Gascón’s burial record way over in Tamaulipas! It begins on the bottom right hand side of image 109 and continues on the following image. I am confidant it’s him because it mentions his late spouse, María Rita Bartola de Rivas. It also adds that he was a “Mtro de escuela q. fue en la Villa de Camargo”. So, I am guessing he taught in what is now modern day Ciudad Camargo, Tamaulipas, México. His cause of death was tabardillo, which I think means typhus.

Almost three years ago, I wrote in this thread:

“The conquistadors wife, Isabel Perez is the daughter of Francisco Santella and his wife who remains unnamed, but was the daughter of Cristobal Castillo ( aka Torres ) and Leonor Perez”,

But thanks to Manny, we now have Francisco Santaella’s wife’s name. It is “Beatriz Torres.” We also now know that Beatriz had a brother named “Diego Castillo” who was a miner in Fresnillo, Zacatecas. These two are the only named children of Cristobal Castillo and Leonor Perez (born in Sevilla, Spain). Previously I had only had the information that they had “only one daughter.” Now we know they also had a son.

Here is the link to Manny’s discovery: http://www.nuestrosranchos.com/en/node/24124

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