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By Armando - Posted on 16 July 2014

The time period of the FamilyTreeDNA myOrigins results can go back as far
10,000 years per a post at
http://dna-explained.com/2014/05/11/family-tree-dna-releases-myorigins/

National Geographic states that it can go back further. They use similar
equipment and the markers are compared with living people so it isn't a
case over one piece of equipment or technology over another. It has to do
with interpretation of the data

Iberians have 37% Northern European and 48% Mediterranean and 13% Southwest
Asian per National Geographic and they have the following to say about
Iberians: "This reference population is based on samples collected from
people native to Spain and Portugal. The 48% Mediterranean and 13%
Southwest Asian percentages reflect the strong influence of
agriculturalists from the Fertile Crescent in the Middle East, who arrived
here more than 8,000 years ago. The 37% Northern European component likely
comes from the pre-agricultural population of Europe—the earliest settlers,
who arrived more than 35,000 years ago during the Upper Paleolithic period.
Today, this component predominates in northern European populations, while
the Mediterranean component is more common in southern Europe."
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations/

Here is an assessment of DNA obtained from ancient remains of people that
had lived in the Mesolithic and the Neolithic. The Mesolithic are more
Northern European like and the Neolithic are more Mediterranean like. This
agrees with a portion of what FTDNA and National Geographic says about the
change between the Mesolithic and the Neolithic.
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/10/assessment-of-ancient-european-dna-with.html

This PCA plot that includes the ancient remains along with modern people is
really interesting also.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fc2W-6tR-HA/Urigqts3hwI/AAAAAAAAJbg/hqZiV1TOGgc/s1600/europe.png

It's from
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/12/europeans-neolithic-farmers-mesolithic.html

The time period for autosomal matches is about 5 generations but there have
been cases where people have found matches that were related from previous
generations.

Armando

On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:00 PM, EarthLink wrote:

> Hi Armando,
> I did my autosomal DNA and mtdna with Family tree. What time period does
> it reflect? Is it recent or over 1000 years old? Thanks. Maven200
>

Armando,

Very interesting. I will read the links later when I have time. When you say "The Mesolithic are more
Northern European like and the Neolithic are more Mediterranean like" does that mean in appearance, or does appearance not enter into it at all? I ask because my husband looks like my nephrologist, who is from Iran, but the doctor is dark-skinned and my husband is light-skinned. They have the same features: tall, roman noses, bald, very hairy; in appearance they could almost be brothers.

Emilie

> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 06:30:19 -0500
> From: fandemma@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Time period of FTDNA Family Finder
>
> The time period of the FamilyTreeDNA myOrigins results can go back as far
> 10,000 years per a post at
> http://dna-explained.com/2014/05/11/family-tree-dna-releases-myorigins/
>
> National Geographic states that it can go back further. They use similar
> equipment and the markers are compared with living people so it isn't a
> case over one piece of equipment or technology over another. It has to do
> with interpretation of the data
>
> Iberians have 37% Northern European and 48% Mediterranean and 13% Southwest
> Asian per National Geographic and they have the following to say about
> Iberians: "This reference population is based on samples collected from
> people native to Spain and Portugal. The 48% Mediterranean and 13%
> Southwest Asian percentages reflect the strong influence of
> agriculturalists from the Fertile Crescent in the Middle East, who arrived
> here more than 8,000 years ago. The 37% Northern European component likely
> comes from the pre-agricultural population of Europe—the earliest settlers,
> who arrived more than 35,000 years ago during the Upper Paleolithic period.
> Today, this component predominates in northern European populations, while
> the Mediterranean component is more common in southern Europe."
> https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations/
>
> Here is an assessment of DNA obtained from ancient remains of people that
> had lived in the Mesolithic and the Neolithic. The Mesolithic are more
> Northern European like and the Neolithic are more Mediterranean like. This
> agrees with a portion of what FTDNA and National Geographic says about the
> change between the Mesolithic and the Neolithic.
> http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/10/assessment-of-ancient-european-dna-with.html
>
> This PCA plot that includes the ancient remains along with modern people is
> really interesting also.
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fc2W-6tR-HA/Urigqts3hwI/AAAAAAAAJbg/hqZiV1TOGgc/s1600/europe.png
>
> It's from
> http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/12/europeans-neolithic-farmers-mesolithic.html
>
> The time period for autosomal matches is about 5 generations but there have
> been cases where people have found matches that were related from previous
> generations.
>
> Armando
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:00 PM, EarthLink wrote:
>
> > Hi Armando,
> > I did my autosomal DNA and mtdna with Family tree. What time period does
> > it reflect? Is it recent or over 1000 years old? Thanks. Maven200
> >

Hello Emilie,

The blog post referred DNA only. There is a change in the DNA between the
Mesolithic and the Neolithic which corresponds with a change in culture.
The Northern European DNA shows to have been in Europe in the Mesolithic
and therefore is older. The DNA of the Mesolithic people is similar whether
the remains are from La Braña in Spain or Sweden.

Armando

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Emilie Garcia
wrote:

> Armando,
>
> Very interesting. I will read the links later when I have time. When
> you say "The Mesolithic are more
> Northern European like and the Neolithic are more Mediterranean like" does
> that mean in appearance, or does appearance not enter into it at all? I
> ask because my husband looks like my nephrologist, who is from Iran, but
> the doctor is dark-skinned and my husband is light-skinned. They have the
> same features: tall, roman noses, bald, very hairy; in appearance they
> could almost be brothers.
>
> Emilie
>
> > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 06:30:19 -0500
> > From: fandemma@gmail.com
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Time period of FTDNA Family Finder
> >
> > The time period of the FamilyTreeDNA myOrigins results can go back as far
> > 10,000 years per a post at
> > http://dna-explained.com/2014/05/11/family-tree-dna-releases-myorigins/
> >
> > National Geographic states that it can go back further. They use similar
> > equipment and the markers are compared with living people so it isn't a
> > case over one piece of equipment or technology over another. It has to do
> > with interpretation of the data
> >
> > Iberians have 37% Northern European and 48% Mediterranean and 13%
> Southwest
> > Asian per National Geographic and they have the following to say about
> > Iberians: "This reference population is based on samples collected from
> > people native to Spain and Portugal. The 48% Mediterranean and 13%
> > Southwest Asian percentages reflect the strong influence of
> > agriculturalists from the Fertile Crescent in the Middle East, who
> arrived
> > here more than 8,000 years ago. The 37% Northern European component
> likely
> > comes from the pre-agricultural population of Europe—the earliest
> settlers,
> > who arrived more than 35,000 years ago during the Upper Paleolithic
> period.
> > Today, this component predominates in northern European populations,
> while
> > the Mediterranean component is more common in southern Europe."
> > https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations/
> >
> > Here is an assessment of DNA obtained from ancient remains of people that
> > had lived in the Mesolithic and the Neolithic. The Mesolithic are more
> > Northern European like and the Neolithic are more Mediterranean like.
> This
> > agrees with a portion of what FTDNA and National Geographic says about
> the
> > change between the Mesolithic and the Neolithic.
> >
> http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/10/assessment-of-ancient-european-dna-with.html
> >
> > This PCA plot that includes the ancient remains along with modern people
> is
> > really interesting also.
> >
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fc2W-6tR-HA/Urigqts3hwI/AAAAAAAAJbg/hqZiV1TOGgc/s1600/europe.png
> >
> > It's from
> >
> http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/12/europeans-neolithic-farmers-mesolithic.html
> >
> > The time period for autosomal matches is about 5 generations but there
> have
> > been cases where people have found matches that were related from
> previous
> > generations.
> >
> > Armando
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:00 PM, EarthLink
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Armando,
> > > I did my autosomal DNA and mtdna with Family tree. What time period
> does
> > > it reflect? Is it recent or over 1000 years old? Thanks. Maven200
> > >
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> On Jul 16, 2014, at 6:47 PM, Emilie Garcia wrote:
>
> Armando,
>
> Very interesting. I will read the links later when I have time. When you say "The Mesolithic are more
> Northern European like and the Neolithic are more Mediterranean like" does that mean in appearance, or does appearance not enter into it at all? I ask because my husband looks like my nephrologist, who is from Iran, but the doctor is dark-skinned and my husband is light-skinned. They have the same features: tall, roman noses, bald, very hairy; in appearance they could almost be brothers.
>
> Emilie
>
>> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 06:30:19 -0500
>> From: fandemma@gmail.com
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Time period of FTDNA Family Finder
>>
>> The time period of the FamilyTreeDNA myOrigins results can go back as far
>> 10,000 years per a post at
>> http://dna-explained.com/2014/05/11/family-tree-dna-releases-myorigins/
>>
>> National Geographic states that it can go back further. They use similar
>> equipment and the markers are compared with living people so it isn't a
>> case over one piece of equipment or technology over another. It has to do
>> with interpretation of the data
>>
>> Iberians have 37% Northern European and 48% Mediterranean and 13% Southwest
>> Asian per National Geographic and they have the following to say about
>> Iberians: "This reference population is based on samples collected from
>> people native to Spain and Portugal. The 48% Mediterranean and 13%
>> Southwest Asian percentages reflect the strong influence of
>> agriculturalists from the Fertile Crescent in the Middle East, who arrived
>> here more than 8,000 years ago. The 37% Northern European component likely
>> comes from the pre-agricultural population of Europe—the earliest settlers,
>> who arrived more than 35,000 years ago during the Upper Paleolithic period.
>> Today, this component predominates in northern European populations, while
>> the Mediterranean component is more common in southern Europe."
>> https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations/
>>
>> Here is an assessment of DNA obtained from ancient remains of people that
>> had lived in the Mesolithic and the Neolithic. The Mesolithic are more
>> Northern European like and the Neolithic are more Mediterranean like. This
>> agrees with a portion of what FTDNA and National Geographic says about the
>> change between the Mesolithic and the Neolithic.
>> http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/10/assessment-of-ancient-european-dna-with.html
>>
>> This PCA plot that includes the ancient remains along with modern people is
>> really interesting also.
>> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fc2W-6tR-HA/Urigqts3hwI/AAAAAAAAJbg/hqZiV1TOGgc/s1600/europe.png
>>
>> It's from
>> http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/12/europeans-neolithic-farmers-mesolithic.html
>>
>> The time period for autosomal matches is about 5 generations but there have
>> been cases where people have found matches that were related from previous
>> generations.
>>
>> Armando
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:00 PM, EarthLink wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Armando,
>>> I did my autosomal DNA and mtdna with Family tree. What time period does
>>> it reflect? Is it recent or over 1000 years old? Thanks. Maven200

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