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Information on Francisca Bernales


By miamontemayor - Posted on 19 April 2014

>
> I've been looking for the marriage of Francisco Medina and Francisca
> Bernales on family search since I joined a few months ago. They are the
> parents of Guadalupe Medina born in Aguascalientes in 1747. Is there
> someone in the Nuestros Ranchos forum that has information on them? - Mia

Hi Mia

Francisco Xavier de Medina married Francisca Bernales in
Aguascalientes on 11 Jun 1732. According to the marriage document he is the son
of Francisco de Medina and Doña Antonia Laredo de Sotomayor:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11605-22954-49?cc=1502404&wc=M6QX-TPD:64895301,64895302,69094601
 
Francisco de Medina married Doña Antonia Laredo de Sotomayor
in Aguascalientes on 20 Jan 1702. According to the marriage record, Francisco
de Medina is the son of Cristobal de Medina and Maria de Avila. Doña Antonia
Laredo de Sotomayor is the daughter of Captain Juan Laredo de Sotomayor and Doña
Juana de Laris:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11671-66481-86?cc=1502404&wc=M6QF-M29:64894501,64894502,69942101
 
Captain Juan Laredo de Sotomayor married Doña Juana de Laris
in Aguascalientes on 14 Nov 1667. They seemed to travel between San Luis Potosi
and Aguascalientes since some children were baptized in Aguascalientes and some
in San Luis Potosi, including Doña Antonia Laredo de Sotomayor who is listed as
being from San Luis Potosi on her marriage record. But, both Captain Juan
Laredo de Sotomayor and Doña Juana de Laris, also listed as Doña Juana de Laris
y Otalora, died in Aguascalientes.  Captain
Juan Laredo de Sotomayor was buried in Aguascalientes on 17 Sep 1697 and Doña
Juana de Laris y Otalora was buried in Aguascalientes on 12 Aug 1695. A year
after his wife died and a year before he died, Captain Juan Laredo de Sotomayor
married a second time to Maria Muñoz de Tiscareño, the daughter of Andres Muñoz
de Nava and Luisa de Tiscareño on 24 May 1696. I’m not sure who the parents are
of Doña Juana de Laris y Otalora or Captain Juan Laredo de Sotomayor, since I
don’t have a dispensa and the Nov 1667 informacion matrimonial seems to be
missing. 
 
Back to Francisca Bernales, the wife of Francisco Xavier de
Medina. According to the marriage record, Francisca Bernales, aka Francisca
Bernales Delgado, aka Francisca Vernal is the daughter of Juan de Dios Bernal,
aka Juan de Dios Sanchez and Ildefonsa Delgado, aka Aldonza Delgado:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11605-22954-49?cc=1502404&wc=M6QX-TPD:64895301,64895302,69094601
 
Juan de Dios Bernal and Ildefonsa Delgado were married in
Aguascalientes on 15 Dec 1698. The informacion matrimonial shows that Juan de
Dios Bernal was the son of Pedro Bernal and Francisca Marmolejo.  Ildefonsa Delgado, baptized 11 Oct 1680, was
the daughter of Luis Delgado and Teresa Lopez de Elizalde:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12446-30466-38?cc=1502404
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11671-60802-23?cc=1502404&wc=M6QF-M29:64894501,64894502,69942101
 
Luis Delgado married Teresa Lopez de Elizalde in
Aguascalientes on 4 Mar 1669:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12446-30269-31?cc=1410092
 
Teresa Lopez de Elizalde is the daughter of Nicolas Lopez de
Elizalde and Regina de Alvarado.  Nicolas
Lopez de Elizalde is the son of Juan Lopez de Elizalde y Aberruza and Leonor
Becerra y Sanchez de Mendoza.
 
Luis Delgado is the son of Joseph Delgado and Francisca de Gabay.
Joseph Delgado married Francisca de Gabay in Aguascalientes on 30 Aug 1644.
Joseph Delgado is the son of Diego Delgado and Juana Diaz. Francisca de Gabay,
baptized 24 Mar 1625 is the daughter of Luis Tiscareño de Molina and Lorenza
Ruiz de Esparza.
 
Luis Tiscareño de Molina married Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza 16
May 1623. Luis Tiscareño de Molina is the son of Juan Tiscareño de Molina and
Elvira Marquez. Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza is the daughter of Lope Ruiz de Esparza
and Ana Francisca de Gabay. Lope Ruiz de Esparza is the son of Lope Ruiz de
Esparza and Maria Diez de Eguinoa. Ana Francisca de Gabay is the daughter of
Martin Navarro de Gabay and Petronila de Moctezuma.
 
Christopher de Cuellar

From: Mia Montemayor
To: "research [at] lists [dot] nuestrosranchos [dot] com"
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 3:54 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Information on Francisca Bernales

>
> I've been looking for the marriage of Francisco Medina and Francisca
> Bernales on family search since I joined a few months ago. They are the
> parents of Guadalupe Medina born in Aguascalientes in 1747. Is there
> someone in the Nuestros Ranchos forum that has information on them? - Mia

>
> Thank you Christopher. This is wonderful :-)
>
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> Hi Mia
>
> Francisco Xavier de Medina married Francisca Bernales in
> Aguascalientes on 11 Jun 1732. According to the marriage document he is
> the son
> of Francisco de Medina and Do?a Antonia Laredo de Sotomayor:
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11605-22954-49?cc=1502404&wc=M6QX-TPD:64895301,64895302,69094601
> ?
> Francisco de Medina married Do?a Antonia Laredo de Sotomayor
> in Aguascalientes on 20 Jan 1702. According to the marriage record,
> Francisco
> de Medina is the son of Cristobal de Medina and Maria de Avila. Do?a
> Antonia
> Laredo de Sotomayor is the daughter of Captain Juan Laredo de Sotomayor
> and Do?a
> Juana de Laris:
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11671-66481-86?cc=1502404&wc=M6QF-M29:64894501,64894502,69942101
> ?
> Captain Juan Laredo de Sotomayor married Do?a Juana de Laris in
> Aguascalientes on 14 Nov 1667. They seemed to travel between San Luis
> Potosi and Aguascalientes since some children were baptized in
> Aguascalientes and some in San Luis Potosi, including Do?a Antonia Laredo
> de Sotomayor who is listed as being from San Luis Potosi on her marriage
> record. But, both Captain Juan Laredo de Sotomayor and Do?a Juana de Laris,
> also listed as Do?a Juana de Laris y Otalora, died in Aguascalientes.?
> Captain Juan Laredo de Sotomayor was buried in Aguascalientes on 17 Sep
> 1697 and Do?a Juana de Laris y Otalora was buried in Aguascalientes on 12
> Aug 1695. A year after his wife died and a year before he died, Captain
> Juan Laredo de Sotomayor married a second time to Maria Mu?oz de Tiscare?o,
> the daughter of Andres Mu?oz de Nava and Luisa de Tiscare?o on 24 May 1696.
> I?m not sure who the parents are of Do?a Juana de Laris y Otalora or
> Captain Juan Laredo de Sotomayor, since I
> don?t have a dispensa and the Nov 1667 informacion matrimonial seems to
> be missing.?
> ?
> Back to Francisca Bernales, the wife of Francisco Xavier de Medina.
> According to the marriage record, Francisca Bernales, aka
> FranciscamBernales Delgado, aka Francisca Vernal is the daughter of Juan de
> Dios Bernal, aka Juan de Dios Sanchez and Ildefonsa Delgado, aka Aldonza
> Delgado:
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11605-22954-49?cc=1502404&wc=M6QX-TPD:64895301,64895302,69094601
> ?
> Juan de Dios Bernal and Ildefonsa Delgado were married in Aguascalientes
> on 15 Dec 1698. The informacion matrimonial shows that Juan de Dios Bernal
> was the son of Pedro Bernal and Francisca Marmolejo. ?Ildefonsa Delgado,
> baptized 11 Oct 1680, was the daughter of Luis Delgado and Teresa Lopez de
> Elizalde:
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12446-30466-38?cc=1502404
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11671-60802-23?cc=1502404&wc=M6QF-M29:64894501,64894502,69942101
> ?
> Luis Delgado married Teresa Lopez de Elizalde in Aguascalientes on 4 Mar
> 1669:
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12446-30269-31?cc=1410092
> ?
> Teresa Lopez de Elizalde is the daughter of Nicolas Lopez de Elizalde and
> Regina de Alvarado. ?Nicolas Lopez de Elizalde is the son of Juan Lopez de
> Elizalde y Aberruza and Leonor
> Becerra y Sanchez de Mendoza.
> ?
> Luis Delgado is the son of Joseph Delgado and Francisca de Gabay. Joseph
> Delgado married Francisca de Gabay in Aguascalientes on 30 Aug 1644. Joseph
> Delgado is the son of Diego Delgado and Juana Diaz. Francisca de
> Gabay, baptized 24 Mar 1625 is the daughter of Luis Tiscare?o de Molina and
> Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza.
> ?
> Luis Tiscare?o de Molina married Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza 16 May 1623. Luis
> Tiscare?o de Molina is the son of Juan Tiscare?o de Molina and Elvira
> Marquez. Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza is the daughter of Lope Ruiz de
> Esparza and Ana Francisca de Gabay. Lope Ruiz de Esparza is the son of Lope
> Ruiz de Esparza and Maria Diez de Eguinoa. Ana Francisca de Gabay is the
> daughter of Martin Navarro de Gabay and Petronila de Moctezuma.
> ?
> Christopher de Cuellar
>
> From: Mia Montemayor
> To: "research [at] lists [dot] nuestrosranchos [dot] com" <
> research [at] lists [dot] nuestrosranchos [dot] com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 3:54 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Information on Francisca Bernales
>
>
> >
> > I've been looking for the marriage o

Thank you Christopher for your very comprehensive response regarding Francisca Bernales. Since our paths seem to cross in so many places I was drawn to the 4 March, 1669 marriage of Luis Delgado and Theresa Lopez Elisalde
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12446-30269-31?cc=1410092

Just below that marriage is the marriage of Juan Delgado and Margarita Lopez de Elisalde; I presume they are all siblings: Two brothers marrying two sisters.

In trying to keep everyone, especially with similar names, in order I discovered that Margarita Lopez de Elisalde was also mentioned in a Dispensa dated 23 Feb. 1734 in which Nicolas Lopez de Lisalde, Martin Ruis de Esparsa, and Lorenza Ruis de Esparsa (Children of Lope Ruis de Esparsa and Francisca Gabai) are all named as siblings.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18410-38083-82?cc=1874591&wc=MCCF-4PX:171935001,171974101,175805001
Also, if this is the same Nicolas married to Regina Alvarado who also was married to Juana Ruiz at the time of his death on 22 November, 1637 ?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-147757-54?cc=1502404&wc=M6QX-Y3D:64894501,64894502,69035101

Thank you for your clarification
Deedra Corona

Hi Deedra,

Your right, Luis Delgado and Juan Delgado were both sons of Joseph Delgado and Francisca Gabay and Teresa Lopez de Elizalde and Margarita Lopez de Elizalde were both daughters of Nicolas Lopez de Elizalde and Regina de Alvarado. Both brothers married both sisters on the same day, 4 Mar 1669. Diego Delgado, another son of Joseph Delgado and Francisca Gabay, married Nicolasa Lopez de Elizalde, another daughter of Nicolas Lopez de Elizalde and Regina de Alvarado on 13 Apr 1678:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11771-154799-47?cc=1410092&wc=6810341

The Nicolas Lopez de Elizalde that was married to Regina de Alvarado, was only married to her that I know of. I do know of at least three other relatives named Nicolas Lopez de Elizalde's though. One I know was married to a Sebastiana Perez and one I think was married to a Catalina Flores and I can't remember who the other one was married to. But, I don't think any were married to Juana Ruiz.

About the dispensa, I couldn't say, because I'm not familiar with that dispensa.  But, I'm not aware of any Lopez de Elizalde ancestors of Lope Ruiz de Esparza or of Ana Francisca Gabay, so I don't think they would have a child surnamed Lopez de Elizalde. I think that might not be accurate.

Chris

From: "zapvive1 [at] msn [dot] com"
To: research [at] lists [dot] nuestrosranchos [dot] com
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 2:52 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nicolas Lopez Lisalde

Thank you Christopher for your very comprehensive response regarding Francisca Bernales.  Since our paths seem to cross in so many places I was drawn to the 4 March, 1669 marriage of Luis Delgado and Theresa Lopez Elisalde
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12446-30269-31?cc=1410092

Just below that marriage is the marriage of Juan Delgado and Margarita Lopez de Elisalde; I presume they are all siblings:  Two brothers marrying two sisters.

In trying to keep everyone, especially with similar names, in order I discovered that Margarita Lopez de Elisalde was also mentioned in a Dispensa dated 23 Feb. 1734 in which Nicolas Lopez de Lisalde, Martin Ruis de Esparsa, and Lorenza Ruis de Esparsa (Children of Lope Ruis de Esparsa and Francisca Gabai) are all named as siblings.  Also, if this is the same Nicolas married to Regina Alvarado who also was married to Juana Ruiz at the time of his death on 22 November, 1637 ?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-147757-54?cc=1502404&wc=M6QX-Y3D:64894501,64894502,69035101

Thank you for your clarification
Deedra Corona

>
> Deedra,
>

Do you by chance have the link to the Dispensa dated 23 Feb 1734 you
mention below? I am also researching Juan Delgado and Margarita Lopez de
Elisalde. Thank you.

Maria Cortez

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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 14:52:24 -0700 (PDT)
> From: zapvive1 [at] msn [dot] com
> To: research [at] lists [dot] nuestrosranchos [dot] com
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nicolas Lopez Lisalde
>
>
> Thank you Christopher for your very comprehensive response regarding
> Francisca Bernales. Since our paths seem to cross in so many places I was
> drawn to the 4 March, 1669 marriage of Luis Delgado and Theresa Lopez
> Elisalde
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12446-30269-31?cc=1410092
>
> Just below that marriage is the marriage of Juan Delgado and Margarita
> Lopez de Elisalde; I presume they are all siblings: Two brothers marrying
> two sisters.
>
> In trying to keep everyone, especially with similar names, in order I
> discovered that Margarita Lopez de Elisalde was also mentioned in a
> Dispensa dated 23 Feb. 1734 in which Nicolas Lopez de Lisalde, Martin Ruis
> de Esparsa, and Lorenza Ruis de Esparsa (Children of Lope Ruis de Esparsa
> and Francisca Gabai) are all named as siblings. Also, if this is the same
> Nicolas married to Regina Alvarado who also was married to Juana Ruiz at
> the time of his death on 22 November, 1637 ?
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11773-147757-54?cc=1502404&wc=M6QX-Y3D:64894501,64894502,69035101
>
> Thank you for your clarification
> Deedra Corona
>
>
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