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By Steve G. Apodaca - Posted on 09 February 2014

Has anybody researched in or around Cañadas de Obregon? I'm looking for the church records for this town but they don't come out on familysearch. Were they ever filmed? And if not, are they located in another parish? I'm trying to find info on the Perez family (yes, those from the famous corrido), who may be related to my wife. I was able to find the civil registry of Cañadas, and the death certificates of Ysidro Perez, Mariano Perez, and Jesus Munoz Perez. However, I'm also interested in their church records since they may provide additional information about this family.

Any advice? I learned that the town was named Villa Obregon for several decades, but that name does not come out on familysearch either.

Steve in NC

Steve

Today this municipality is pretty small, about 3,500 people. Could it have been too small to have a parish of its own?

Perhaps there are records for it as a branch (or a chapel) of a larger parish? When looking at a map, there are some larger towns with parish churches in the vicinity. The Family Search catalog does not necessarily provide any details on branches/chapels that may be included. I looked at the catalog for Jalostotitlan, as an example, and the catalog gave no information.

Your option would seem to be to peruse the church records for the nearby communities. Records for a branch/chapel could be mixed with the regular parish records, they could be added at the end of a month or year. There is always the unfortunately possibility they are completely out of order, and may be found with another year.

The fact that the filmed civil records date from 1870 is suggestive of a rather small community (although there is always the possibility that earlier records could have been lost).

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

George Fulton is correct. I recall a couple of Jalostotitlan records of my family stated that they were born in Canadas (villa de Oregon). I believe that is where you will find the old records. Canadas was small when I was growing up and visited in 1960's. When I visited in the 1980's it had grown quite a bit but still had the small town atmosphere. It is a nice place to visit, very relaxing. I remember going to see the bulls in the old stadium that the people there were very proud of. I don't know if I remember correctly, but canadas was known for its candy stands. The name has gone back and forth, since the formal name was not used by many people.
An uncle of mine owned a ranch between Valle de Guadalupe and Canadas. I remember riding horses there when I was a kid. The first time I rode a horse there, I learned to duck when riding by a tree with low branches when it is windy. it only took a few scratches to learn my lesson. This uncle was married to my maternal aunt. It turned out that he was related to my wife. My wife's great great grandmother. Feliciana Munoz de La Barba, visited this ranch often when it belonged to her father. The ranch was passed down to the first born son for many generations, even today. my first cousin inherited it.
There was a a couple of big scandals in Canadas, one was a big shootout in the town square, and another was a couple of Lomeli brothers or cousins shooting at women washing their clothes at the river. They thought it was funny to use them as targets for shooting practice. I don't recall if the two incidents were related.
I also have a second cousin surnamed Perez that also has a ranch on that same road to Canadas.
R A Ricci

Thanks George Fulton and R A Ricci for your suggestions. I will look into Jalostotitlan and other nearby parishes, hopefully, I will be able to find some information. My wife's paternal grandfather's name was Luis Garcia Perez. He lived in a town in the border with Michoacan called La Ribera, Jalisco. I don't have info on his parents, but several members of my wife's family swear there is a blood relationship between Luis and the Perez from Cañadas. I'm trying to verify or correct this family story. I am aware that oftentimes, family stories may be a little bit exaggerated, but even with those exaggerations, they often have a real origin and many of them are not that far from the truth.

Saludos.

Steve in NC

Hello, I am also looking for my grandfather Marcelino Jimenez and I believe I found his sister,s 1930 MX Census in Obregon Jalisco and then again in Valle de Guadalupe Jalisco (?) for the exact same date. I know his father's name was Genaro Jimenez and his mother's was Ygnacia Gallo. My grandfather was born in June 1900-1902 according to his 1940 US Census and death records. I applied for his 1936 SS app but as always, only MEXICO is stated. I found his newspaper archives obituary from Dallas and that is how U found he had a sister named Manuela Jimenez married to Refugio Gamez in Obregon and another sister Inez. Brothers were Jesus, Jose and Ramauldo Jimenez. I searched in so many surrounding areas, but still cannot find my grandfather's birth records. Any suggestions? I believe I found Ygnacia's (my great grandmother's death records in 1911 Yahualica Jalisco).

Thank you,

A branch of Jiménez that ended up in el Valle de Guadalupe is actually from a Jimenez family that spread out from Jalostotitlan and sprouted branches that went to San Miguel el Alto and from there branched out to Valle de Guadalupe, Canadas de Obregon, and. Ameca.
Valle de Guadalupe and Canadas are very close to each other. I have cousins that are surnamed Barba and others surnamed Perez that have ranches between the two towns.
A branch of the Jimenez left San Miguel el Alto and went to Ameca Jalisco which is not close Canadas. Ameca is not in Los altos de Jalisco and is on the other side of Guadalajara but they are the same family.
The Perez-Gallo family in Canadas was originally from Jalostotitlan and they drifted to Canadas with my cousins grandfather settling in el Valle de Guadlupe. The Perez Gallo , Alvarez tostado and Gomez de Mendoza intermarried repeatedly I the 1800's and some of their records are found in Jalostotitlan. I descend from these families.

R A Ricci

I found a document that verifies that the "Manuela Jimenez Gamez" 1930 census in Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco I found is definitely my grandfather's sister. I found Manuela's son's crossover papers that list his mother's name as " Manuela Jimenez-Gallo" and father "Refugio Gamez" which matches the census record. I might have found her other sister "Ines Jimenez" married to Candelario Lomeli, also in Valle de Guadalupe's census. I have not found an actually tie to this census document, but I know from my grandfather's obituary showed he had a sister named Ines. Now I need to search for a link of Ines to Marcelino (my grandfather) and/or their parents Ygnacia Gallo & Genaro Jimenez. The search goes on.....

I found my grandfather's birth records in Canadas de Obregon civil records. His line is: Marcelino > Genaro > Marcelino > Nicolas > Mariano Ximenes. Mariano's children were born in Mexticacan and Los Lagos in the late 1700's, but grandparents are not listed. Does anyone have any information about this Jalisco Ximenes family? The Gallo line is Ignacia > Lorenzo > Anastacio > Jose Sostenes; all in Canadas.

This Gallo family from Canadas is also part of my family tree. The surname was originally Perez -Gallo. Now that you have gone that far back you should look for Perez -Gallo and not just Gallo. They intermarried often with the Gomez Hurtado de Mendosa, Alvarez Tostado, and fernandez de Rueda.
I descend from Jose Onofre Perez-Gallo who married at least three times in the mid 1700's and left many descendants in Jalostotitlan, Canadas de Obregon, and Valle de Guadalupe.
Sometimes he was known as Onofre Jose Perez-Gallo
The Jimenez family that you are talking about May be the Jimenez de Castro family from this area.
Is your Sostenes Gallo the husband of Thomasa Perez who had a son christened in Jalostotitlan on 22/Aug/1819 by the name of Jose Anastacio Perez-Gallo?
R A Ricci

PS. This maybe of some help:

Perez Gallo
Jose Anastasio Gallo Perez
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 22 Aug 1819
Christening Place: NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name: Sostenes Gallo
Mother's Name: Tomaza Perez
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60321-5 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279266 ,
Image 63 of 668
Abuelos paternos. Onofre Gallo y Rafaela Garcia

Abuelos maternos Jose Pantaleon Perez y Maria Jacinta Lisarde

Padrinos: Onofre Gallo y Trinidad Reynoso

Jose Gallo
Spouse's Name: Tomaza Peres
Event Date: 19 Nov 1817
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name: Onofre Gallo
Mother's Name: Rafaela Garcia
Spouse's Father's Name: Jose Peres
Spouse's Mother's Name: Jasinta Lisardo
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60323-1 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279301

Name: Onofre Gallo Peres
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 19 Jun 1830
Christening Place: NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name: Jose Gallo
Mother's Name: Tomasa Peres
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60321-6 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279267

Name: Jose Pantaleon Perez
Gender:
Male
Wife: Xacinta Lisarde
Daughter: Maria Gregoria Perez Lisarde
Other information in the record of Maria Gregoria Perez Lisarde
from Mexico, Baptisms
Name: Maria Gregoria Perez Lisarde
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 13 May 1784
Christening Place: SAN MIGUEL,YAHUALICA,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name: Jose Pantaleon Perez
Mother's Name: Xacinta Lisarde
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60353-1 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 226408

Josef Pantaleon Perez
mentioned in the record of Josef Pantaleon Perez and Jazinta Lizarde
Name: Josef Pantaleon Perez
Spouse's Name: Jazinta Lizarde
Event Date: 20 Jan 1778
Event Place: San Felipe,Cuquio,Jalisco,Mexico
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60467-4 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 617582
image 336 of 689

Jose Onofre Gayo
Spouse's Name: Rafaela Garcia
Event Date: 22 Jun 1795
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-8 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279299
Image 180 of 375

Viudo de Ysabel Cornejo y de Tecameca

Rafaela Garcia hija de Jose Manuel Garcia y Maria Esparza (difunta)
Originalmente De Teocaltiche

Josse Onfre Perez Gallo
Spouse's Name: Maria Ysavel Cornejo
Event Date: 19 May 1784
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Father's Name: Josse Onfre Perez Gallo
Mother's Name: Maria Reinoso
Spouse's Father's Name: Juan Eugenio Cornejo
Spouse's Mother's Name: Margarita Ximenes De Castro
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-7 , System Origin: Mexico-VR , GS Film number: 279298 , Reference ID: 2:PBMZ42

Jose Manuel Garcia
mentioned in the record of Jose Juan Francisco Garcia Esparza
Name: Jose Manuel Garcia
Gender:
Male
Wife: Maria Josefa Esparza
Son: Jose Juan Francisco Garcia Esparza
Other information in the record of Jose Juan Francisco Garcia Esparza
from Mexico, Baptisms
Name: Jose Juan Francisco Garcia Esparza
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 26 Jun 1845
Christening Place: CIENEGA DE MATA, OJUELOS, JALISCO, MEXICO
Birthplace: Palo Alto
Father's Name: Jose Manuel Garcia
Mother's Name: Maria Josefa Esparza
Paternal Grandfather's Name: Jose De Jesus Garcia
Paternal Grandmother's Name: Maria Rita Rangel
Maternal Grandfather's Name: Julian Esparza
Maternal Grandmother's Name: Anastacia Villa Lovos
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60704-7 , System Origin: Mexico-VR , GS Film number: 640158 , Reference ID: 2:1PLPKM3
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Jose Juan Francisco Garcia
Other information in the record of Jose Juan Francisco Garcia
from Mexico, Baptisms
Name: Jose Juan Francisco Garcia
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 26 Jun 1845
Christening Place: Inmaculada Concepción, Ciénega De Mata, Jalisco, Mexico
Birthplace: Palo Alto
Father's Name: Jose Manuel Garcia
Mother's Name: Maria Josefa Esparza
Paternal Grandfather's Name: Jose De Jesus Garcia
Paternal Grandmother's Name: Maria Rita Rangel
Maternal Grandfather's Name: Julian Esparza
Maternal Grandmother's Name: Anastacia Villa Lovos
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02363-4 , System Origin: Mexico-EASy , GS Film number: 640158 , Reference ID: v 21 p 164

Jose Onofre Gayo
Spouse's Name: Rafaela Garcia
Event Date: 22 Jun 1795
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-8 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279299
Image 180 of 375

Viudo de Ysabel Cornejo y de Tecameca

Rafaela Garcia hija de Jose Manuel Garcia y Maria Esparza (difunta)
Originalmente De Teocaltiche

Josse Onfre Perez Gallo
Spouse's Name: Maria Ysavel Cornejo
Event Date: 19 May 1784
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Father's Name: Josse Onfre Perez Gallo
Mother's Name: Maria Reinoso
Spouse's Father's Name: Juan Eugenio Cornejo
Spouse's Mother's Name: Margarita Ximenes De Castro
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-7 , System Origin: Mexico-VR , GS Film number: 279298 , Reference ID: 2:PBMZ42

Onofre Joseph Perez Gallo
Spouse's Name: Manuela Reinoso
Event Date: 30 Jun 1779
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Spouse's Father's Name: Melchor Reinoso
Spouse's Mother's Name: Maria Gonzales
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-6 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279297

Name: Onofre Joseph Peres Gallo
Spouse's Name: Manuela Reinozo
Event Date: 02 Jul 1758
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Spouse's Father's Name: Melchor Reinozo
Spouse's Mother's Name: Maria Gonsales Rubio
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-5 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279296 ,

Image. 225 of 723

Vuido de segundas nupcias de Maria Luisa Gonzalez de Hermosillo

Joseph Eugenio Pastor Gayo Gonsales
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 18 Apr 1751
Christening Place: NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name: Onofre Gayo
Mother's Name: Maria Luisa Gonsales De Hermosillo

Onofre Joseph Peres Gallo
Spouse's Name: Maria Luiza Gonsales
Event Date: 03 May 1749
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Spouse's Father's Name: Geronimo Gonsales
Spouse's Mother's Name: Martiana De Lomelin
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-5 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279296

Joseph Salbador Peres Gallo
Spouse's Name: Maria Gertrudis Masias Balades
Event Date: 27 Sep 1757
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name: Onofre Joseph Peres Gallo
Mother's Name: Anna Fernandes De Rueda
Spouse's Father's Name: Cristobal Masias Balades
Spouse's Mother's Name: Maria Esmeregilda Gutieres
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-5 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279296

Joseph Peres Gallo
Gender:
Male
Wife: Angela Fernandez De Rueda
Daughter: Maria Gertrudis Peres Fernandez
Other information in the record of Maria Gertrudis Peres Fernandez
from Mexico, Baptisms
Name: Maria Gertrudis Peres Fernandez
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 22 Aug 1745
Christening Place: NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name: Joseph Peres Gallo
Mother's Name: Angela Fernandez De Rueda
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: K60320-4 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279256

Joseph Onofre Perez Gallo
Spouse's Name: Angela Fernandez De Rueda
Event Date: 11 Feb 1743
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-4 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279295
Image 473 of 557

Should say JOSEPH Onofre Perez Gallo de teocaltiche hijo de Jose Perez Gallo y Maria. Alvarez de nava

Angela Fernandez de Rueda aka Ana Hernandez
Daughter of Miguel Fernandez de Rueda (Hernandez de Rueda and Maria Macias Valadez

Antonio Leonardo Perez Gallo
Spouse's Name: Manuela Gertrudis Reynoso
Event Date: 18 Feb 1767
Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name: Onofre Joseph Perez Gallo
Mother's Name: Anna Fernandes De Rueda
Spouse's Father's Name: Melchor Reynoso
Spouse's Mother's Name: Maria Gonzales Rubio
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-5 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279296

Onofre Peres Gallo
Gender:
Male
Wife: Maria Manuela Reinozo
Son: Joseph Onofre Peres Reinozo
Other information in the record of Joseph Onofre Peres Reinozo
from Mexico, Baptisms
Name: Joseph Onofre Peres Reinozo
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 11 Apr 1765
Christening Place: NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name: Onofre Peres Gallo
Mother's Name: Maria Manuela Reinozo
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60320-7 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279259

Other information in the record of Maria Rita De Santaanna Peres Reinozo
from Mexico, Baptisms
Name: Maria Rita De Santaanna Peres Reinozo
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 26 Jul 1761
Christening Place: NUESTRA SENORA DE LA ASUNCION,JALOSTOTITLAN,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name: Onofre Peres Gallo
Mother's Name: Maria Manuela Reinozo
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: K60320-6 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279258 ,

Jazinta Lizarde
mentioned in the record of Josef Pantaleon Perez and Jazinta Lizarde
Name: Josef Pantaleon Perez
Spouse's Name: Jazinta Lizarde
Event Date: 20 Jan 1778
Event Place: San Felipe,Cuquio,Jalisco,Mexico
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60467-4 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 617582

Yes, my Sostenes was married to Tomasa. His son Anastacio is my great great great grandfather. I found a marriage record for Anastacio's son Miguel Gallo {Lorenzo's brother} in Canada's civil marriage records listing parents as Anastacio Gallo and Tiburcia Alvares which matches Lorenzo's death record, but Sostenes wife is listed as Tomasa "Ruis", so this was trowing me off from all the other records coming up with his wife as Tomasa "Perez". Thank you for this valuable information.

Tomasa Perez was also known as Tomasa Ruiz because she also descended from the Esparza which was originally Ruiz de Esparza.

I have good news and bad news for you. The good news is that we are now family. The bad news is that we are now family. I say good news because I can now provide with much much more information that makes us connected to all the presidents of the United States except for one who was from Holland and has no common ancestors that I know of. I can tell you how your ancestors descend from English French and Spanish kings over and over again. These lines go over a thousand years.

The bad news is that my research is despised by many people because they say that I unnecessarily go out of my way to find indian jewish and moor ancestors. Even worse, my recent research results point to an ancestor that was the stereotypical Jew, greedy and out to cheat to create a big business deal. Not only that but this ancestor conspired to kill an inquisitor and the Vatican condemned him and his fellow conspirators actions and made the inquisitor a saint even though there was ample evidence that this inquisitor took great satisfaction in making conversos suffer. This ancestors actions actually added fuel to the fire and made people that were against the inquistition switch sides and become ardent supporters of the inquisition. Even worse, this is not a distant relative, he is a grandfather to an ancestor that comes to Mexico and spreads his bloodline to almost all of the founding families in Los Altos de Jalisco.

I have found moor ancestors. Many family members don't want to hear that we have Muslim ancestors. Other family members refuse to believe my findings of black lines in Los altos de Jalisco.

I research all my lines and am interested in finding out who all of my ancestors are. My Perez Gallo line is espanol but it married into the a line that descends from this ancestor that I have been speaking poorly of. I am proud of my diverse ancestry though I am not proud of the actions of some of my ancestors.

R A Ricci

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