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By Visitor - Posted on 13 January 2014

I just been wondering what is know about Carlos Lomellin. I am a decedent of him through his son Lucas. I have research him and from other post that I have seen I know that he worked on the mines? I know that he came from Genoa Italy. Nobody seems to know who his parents were. Is this because Carlos is a dead end or because nobody has research the records in Italy? 

Hello Alejandro,
I believe that the information that I have discovered on Luis (Luciano) Lomeli (Lomellini) is the last puzzle piece that I needed to finally Name with conviction the parents of Carlo Lomellini. The book could be finished right now if it was only on the descendants and ancestors of Carlo Lomellini. But research of Carlo Lomellimi’s Ancestors has provided much information on the branches of the Lomellini family that went to the Iberian Peninsula (Spain and Portugal) before coming over to the Americas. The research has provided valuable ancestral information on Luis Luciano) Lomeli (Lomellini) and a famous cousin of Carlo Lomellini’s great grandfather.

The book will also include descendants of Luis Lomeli, Carlos’s fourth cousin. I am still working on Luis Lomeli’s descendants. Luis’s descendants are just a relatively recent addition to my research as in the past I had only focused on how Miguel Hidalgo Costilla and I descended from him. This information on Luis is important as it lays to rest the mistaken belief that Carlos (Carlo) and Luis (Luciano) were brothers. Although Carlo Lomeli and Luis Lomeli were only fourth cousins, they were part of a small circle of Italian families on the Iberian Peninsula that intermarried often, and they had second cousins in common. That means that their fathers had first cousins in common, and both of their families were very close to the other two Lomellini branches of the family on the Iberian Peninsula. In fact, there were quite a few in the family in which both parents were surnamed Lomellini. Three of the Lomellini branches were so very closely related before arriving on the Iberian Peninsula that they could be considered part of one bigger branch while the fourth branch was not as closely related before their arrival,, but they intermarried often with the other Lomellini once they came over, even though this fourth branch primarily resided in Portugal. Even though I wrote primarily resided, the families traveled often due to business interests between Genoa, Spain, and Portugal. They also traveled often throughout the Mediterranean and through the English Channel as they moved goods. It was only after decades that the families settled permanently as they enjoyed thinking of themselves as residents of different city-states. Over the centuries, The Iberian peninsula Lomellini branches developed into two separate branches, one in Portugal (Lomelino), and the other in Spain (Lomelin).

Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci
Source: Mygenes2000

My mother’s dna analysis from AncestryDNA shows her to be 18% Italian. Both her parents are from Los Altos De Jalisco. My mother has many Romo De Vivar, Perez-franco(Perestrello), Marin(i) and Lomelin(i) ancestral lines. I believe that these four ancestral lines are the ones that contribute to the majority of her 18% Italian results

While researching my Lomelini ancestors, my work merged with the research that I was doing on a few other Genoese ancestral lines that I was working on. I did not complete my book on my Lomellini ancestors because I wanted to see if I could find DNA evidence by compiling a reference line of descent that stayed in Genoa. Yesterday I attempted to contact, through email, italian descendants of siblings of the ancestors that I have been studying in order set up a dna analysis of their relationships to the the Lomellini descendants in Nueva Galicia. I hope to add these dna comparisons to my book.

Rick A. Ricci
Mygenes2000

Hello Rick,

I just joined a Facebook group after being invited by another Ancestry member that noticed I have Lomelin family member in my tree. She has asked me to have descendants of the family join the group. She has MANY descendants of the Lomellini family in the group too who have the Landi surname. The group's name is Fam Lomelin Lomelin. I also wonder how many of us here have done DNA and uploaded to Gedmatch Genesis to see if we're related. I've tested myself, my mother, and a great aunt who is also from Jalisco. I'd be willing to share gedmatch numbers on here if anyone is interested.

Kenya

Hi Rick,

I just looked up "Mygenes2000" on ancestry to see if our DNA matched. I have my both my parents DNA as well as my maternal grandmother. My grandmother, mom and my self matched AC, OC and Patricia Romo and my father matched Patricia Romo. My parents and grandmother still live in Degollado, Jalisco.

Thank you,
Esther Hernandez Lopez

Hi Kenya,

I uploaded DNA to Gedmatch and would be willing to share gedmatch numbers to see if we are related. I have hit a wall on my 6th great grandfather, Onofre de Lomelin (1730-1759) who died in El Rancho el Humedo, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco and am searching for clues on his father (no conosido) and mother Maria Nuñez ( - bef. 1754). Not alone in the search, I know of a few others here and on other sites searching for the same. I've come across some trees online who have a known Lomelin as a father (Gabriel, Hernando or Domingo) and a different mother, however his marriage certificate to Angela de Jesus Yniguez (abt 1734-abt 1777) m.February 13, 1754 states Maria Nuñez as mother, deceased and unknown father, yet Onofre is given the surname Lomelin. Hopefully we can find his baptismal certificate, death certificate for his mother or a marriage dispensa with key information than can shed some light.

Dear Esther Hernandez Lopez,

I don’t have my dna results posted, but the people you found, AC, OC, and Patricia Romo are closely related to me. I am curious as to how closely you are related to each one of them. How close of a cousin does Ancestry predict?

Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci

Did you ever find documentation of Luis Lomellini's parents? My family tree shows that I am a descendant. I know you said your book focus more on Carlo, but I was wondering if you had found any new information about Luis and his lineage. My ancestors settled in Tamazula Jalisco and in tracing the Munguia side it led me to the last names Coria and Lomellini.

Hi Rick,

It's not by much but here it is:

Esther (me)
AC
Predicted relationship: 5th–8th Cousin
Shared DNA: 7 cM across 1 segments
OC
Predicted relationship: 5th–8th Cousin
Shared DNA: 7 cM across 1 segments
Patricia Romo
Predicted relationship: 4th–6th Cousin
Shared DNA: 25 cM across 3 segments

My grandmother - Socorro Fuentes Cervantes
AC
Predicted relationship: 5th–8th Cousin
Shared DNA: 11 cM across 4 segments
OC
Predicted relationship: 5th–8th Cousin
Shared DNA: 10 cM across 3 segments
Patricia Romo
Predicted relationship: 5th–8th Cousin
Shared DNA: 15 cM across 1 segments

My mother - Josefina Lopez Fuentes
AC
Predicted relationship: 4th–6th Cousin
Shared DNA: 20 cM across 3 segments
OC
Predicted relationship: 5th–8th Cousin
Shared DNA: 20 cM across 3 segments
Patricia Romo
Predicted relationship: 4th–6th Cousin
Shared DNA: 24 cM across 3 segments

My dad - Roberto Hernandez Ramirez
Patricia Romo
Predicted relationship: 5th–8th Cousin
Shared DNA: 11 cM across 1 segments

Thank you,
Esther

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