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By Visitor - Posted on 13 January 2014

I just been wondering what is know about Carlos Lomellin. I am a decedent of him through his son Lucas. I have research him and from other post that I have seen I know that he worked on the mines? I know that he came from Genoa Italy. Nobody seems to know who his parents were. Is this because Carlos is a dead end or because nobody has research the records in Italy? 

Dear Alma,

I forgot to add that Martiana was also known as Matiana de Torres. The "de Torres" was from her maternal grandmother, Francisca de Torres. Jerónimo and Martiana baptized a daughter where Martiana used her maternal grandmother's surname as her own.

When baptizing another child she is surnamed "de Hermosillo". I have numerous children for Geronimo and Martiana though I don't know how many total children they had.

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Matiana (Martiana) Lomelin y Gonzalez de Hermosillo (Gavilán)
Submitted by R.A.Ricci on Thu, 2016-07-14 22:13.
Dear Alma,

I have her as Matiana (Martiana) Lomelin y Gonzalez de Hermosillo (Gavilán), daughter of Jose Lomelin y Hurtado de Mendoza (bap. 22/Apr/1640) and Michaela Gonzalez de Hermosillo y de Torres

Jose is the son of Domingo Lomellin and Juana Regina de Mendoza

Domingo Lomelin is the son of Carlo (s) Lomelin(i) and Maria Benavides y Cortes.

Michaela Gonzalez de Hermosillo y de Torres is the daughter of Francisco Munoz de Cabeza de Hermosillo and Francisca de Torres.

Geronimo and his spouse Matiana (Martiana) were related through the Gonzalez de Hermosillo.

The last name was not Lomeli. It was Lomelin. Carlos Lomelin was Carlo Lomellini in Italian.

I have much more information on these lines.
I hope this helps,
R.A. Ricci

Question:
Martiana Lomelini Gavilan
Submitted by almadegollings on Thu, 2016-07-14 17:14.
Dear A. Ricci, I am fascinated by your account of the Lomelini's and I too am trying to write a book on the Gonzalez Hermosillo, but like you, it is taking a long time. I have been doing my research for 6 years now and keep finding mistakes, so I go back to stage one. My connection to the Lomeli's is: Geronimo I, born 1669 in Jalostotitlan, was married to Martiana Lomeli Gavilan and I am trying to find her ancestors. I love doing this and should have been a genealogist.
My E-mail is: almagollings@hotmail.com
Have you published your book?

I believe Rodrigo de Carbajal and Juana Lomelin also had a daughter named Josefa de Carbajal. She was married to Jose Leal de Ayala. They had a daughter named Maria Leal de Ayala Carvajal and she was married to Augustin Gomez de Mendoza. I am descended from her through this line.

Hola , I too descend from Augustin Gomez de Mendoza a several times.

Ronnie

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I believe Rodrigo de Carbajal and Juana Lomelin also had a daughter named
Josefa de Cabajal. She was married to Jose Leal de Ayala. They had a daughter
named Maria Leal de Ayala Carvajal and she was married to Augustin Gomez de
Mendoza. I am descended to her through this line.

please cancel my nuestros ranchos account permanently due to health issues.. Thank you.

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Hola , I too descend from Augustin Gomez de Mendoza a several times.

Ronnie

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From: General on behalf of prettycool667@hotmail.com
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 1:25 AM
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Descendant of Lucas?

I believe Rodrigo de Carbajal and Juana Lomelin also had a daughter named Josefa de Cabajal. She was married to Jose Leal de Ayala. They had a daughter named Maria Leal de Ayala Carvajal and she was married to Augustin Gomez de Mendoza. I am descended to her through this line.

Dear Becky,

Last week Veronica told me that you were a member of Nuestrosranchos. I was happily surprised by the news and racked my brain trying to remember seeing your name in posts. It wasn't until I did a little investigating that I discoverered that you, as "visitor", had originally asked about Carlo Lomellin. If it hadn't been for your question I probably would have just kept on researching the Lomellini in Spain, Portugal, and Italy without posting some of the information.

As you know by now, I have tremendous amount of information on the Lomeli / Lomellini family.

Yesterday I took a look at your mom's ancestry and collected some information, (baptismal records, marriage records and census records.) I also pulled birth records from the civil records to make sure I was researching the right people.

Hopefully during Easter break I can find time to put a package together for you and send it through regular mail.

Please tell everyone in the family that they are in our thoughts and prayers,
Rick

My work on Carlo Lomellini is extensive. My work up to this point on Luis Lomeli is not as extensive and is more speculative as there are more possible people that can be our Luis Lomeli. At this time there are three possible Luis Lomelin, two with a mother surnamed Spinola, a third that is also from the Iberian peninsula. The third one is a recent discovery.

When I posted the family tree on possible Luis Lomelin, I stated that I was "trying on a Glass slipper" on possible Luis Lomelin's. Any work on Geni that shows Luis Lomelin's ancestry is just someone copying my speculation and falsely posting it as fact. There is still much research to compile on Luis Lomelin.

There are three men married to Maria Lomelin, a daughter of Luis Lomelin and Maria Olmo. Are there three marriages for one Maria Lomelin y Olmo?

I have confirmed that Maria had two marriages but still looking for more evidence of the third marriage.

Here are the marriages:
Francisco de la Cueva y "María Lomelín hija de Luis Lomelin y Maria del Olmos"

Juan Villaseñor y Patiño de Herrera married to "María Lomelín "hija de Luis Lomelin y Maria del Olmos"

Diego de Barrientos Ribera y "María Lomelín hija de Luis Lomelin y Maria del Olmos"

I only know of three daughters of Luis Lomelin and Maria del Olmos. Does anyone know if they had more children?

Rick A. Ricci

Hola Richard:

Esas familias vivieron en Querétaro.

Don Diego de Barrientos Ribera era el justicia mayor de Querétaro a principios del siglo XVII y existe un retrato de él y de dona María Lomelin, su mujer.

La familia de Doña María vivía en Querétaro en esa época.

"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N537-58F : 12 December 2014), Luis Lomelin in entry for Luisa Lomelin Del Olmo, 04 Mar 1606; citing Queretaro, Queretaro, Mexico, reference 2:RWFTVW; FHL microfilm 247,920.

"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N8D3-64B : 12 December 2014), Luis De Lomellin in entry for Ana De Lomellin Del Olmo, 09 Aug 1618; citing Queretaro, Queretaro, Mexico, reference 2:RWG19R; FHL microfilm 247,920.

Relación entre las familias del Olmo y Espíndola:

Hacia 1570 pasó a nueva España Doña Ana de Espíndola, presentándose como viuda del conquistador Francisco de Avendaño (Mendaño) conquistador de Nueva Granada, para estar con su hijo Francisco de Avendaño. Traía a sus dos hijas María de Espíndola (Avendaño) y doña Ana de Espíndola (Avendaño). Al poco tiempo María se casa con Juan Muñoz (Ramírez de Coy) en Puebla y luego pasan a Querétaro, doña Ana se casa con Francisco del Olmo.

Estas familias se desplazaban porque eran parte de una red mercantil en el camino real.

Saludos

Marcelina

Te recomiendo visitar el artículo sobre la Hacienda de La Laja en bisabuelos.com ya que los descendientes de Doña María y Don Diego fueron propietarios de dicha Hacienda.

Hola Marcelina,

Si tengo mas hijos de Luis Lomelin pero me faltan muchas piezas. Los Espindola viene de la Familia Genovez "Spinola" que ya tenian mucha relacion familiar con Los Lomellini. De los "Del Olmos" no tengo mas informacion. Los Avendaño es una familia conversa que viene de "la Casa de David".

Gracias,
Ricardo A. Ricci

Hola Richard:

Creí que era Aben Dana, de la tribu de Dan.

La familia Ramírez de Coy y Alfaro Bravo de Lagunas era representante mercantil en los virreinatos del Duque de Béjar y Marqués de Gibraleón. Los Espíndola (Spínola), los Olmos, los Avendaño, etc. son familias asociadas y comisionistas de la red de distribución de productos.

No tengo identificados a los Lomelin como parte de esa red, pero muchas familias genovesas como los Spínola tenían representaciones en Sevilla y vivían en el mismo barrio "Calle de los Genoveses".

Marcelina

Hello Mr Ricci .....My name is Alejandro Lomeli. I am curious as to what the status of your book is. Ive been following your replies on here about Carlos and Luis Lomellini and am really looking forward to reading your work. I descend back 10 generations to Carlos Lomellini. Best Regards, A.Lomeli

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