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By gilbertarguelles - Posted on 06 July 2013

Armando,

I just went through the link you cited. Its helpful . I better get going getting test for my parents as they are both only children.
Thank you,
Gilbert Arguelles

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> 1. Re: $99 DNA test (Gilbert Arguelles)
> 2. Re: $99 DNA test (Armando)
>
>I ordered the Comprehensive Genome test and joined the project that was
>mentioned on the list.
>
>Would I be able to verify that any connection to you or Gloria through
>the
>test?
>
>Since both my parents are still living (86 & 90 years old) would it be
>a
>clearer picture overall if I tested them too with the $99 tests?
>
>
>Message: 2

>Hello Gilbert, in order to know if you, Joseph, and Gloria having
>autosomal
>markers in common they would also have to get a Family Finder test.
>Even if
>they get the test there is no guarantee they are going to show as
>matches
>even if they truly are related to you. Not all markers are passed down
>from
>all of your ancestors. If they do show as matches then they are
>possibly
>related to you. Having other people with some of the ancestors showing
>up
>as matches on the same segment of a specific chromosome will help raise
>the
>likelihood being related through the line that is in common in all of
>you/
>
>See the following article for an example.
>
>http://dna-explained.com/2013/06/21/triangulation-for-autosomal-dna/
>
>Having your parents test could help prove which side of the family your
>matches are related to you. If you, one parent and a third person all
>have
>markers in common in a certain segment of a certain chromosome then it
>is
>that side of the family that you are likely related to the third
>person.
>It's a process of elimination with the help of known relatives and
>others
>with shared trees and all getting the Family Finder test that help show
>an
>extreme likelihood of being related.
>
>Saludos,
>Armando
>
>> Would I be able to verify that any connection to you or Gloria
>through the
>> test?
>>
>> Since both my parents are still living (86 & 90 years old) would it
>be a
>> clearer picture overall if I tested them too with the $99 tests?

Thank you Armando for keeping NR members informed about DNA testing and options.

I wanted to add that if any of you tested with 23andMe's V3 chip or the NEW Autosomal test from Ancestry.com, you can import the autosomal part of your results to Family Tree DNA for $69 US and get more matches. Please remember that FTDNA has one of the largest DNA databases and you have the likelihood to yield more results when you upload your third-party results.

Read more about it here. https://www.familytreedna.com/landing/atdna-landing.aspx

Saludos,
Claudia
www.guadalajaradispensas.com

Hello Claudia,

Your message did not get sent out by the NR email system. In the interest
of getting your message out in an email I am sending this out.

I would like to add that once they get their autosomal test transferred to
FamilyTreeDNA from Ancestry.com or 23andme they can join the Los Altos de
Jalisco DNA project at the following page -

http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join-request.aspx?group=losaltosdejalisco&vGroup=losaltosdejalisco

The goal is 1,000 participants. They are at 130 members and just a week or
two ago they were only at 30 members. The more members the better.

Also, a reminder to other NR members - Ancestry.com does not have a
chromosome browser and neither of them have DNA projects.

Saludos,
Armando

________________________________

Enviado por Claudia_Reynoso el Mié, 2013-07-10 17:26.

Thank you Armando for keeping NR members informed about DNA testing and
options.

I wanted to add that if any of you tested with 23andMe's V3 chip or the NEW
Autosomal test from Ancestry.com, you can import the autosomal part of your
results to Family Tree DNA for $69 US and get more matches. Please remember
that FTDNA has one of the largest DNA databases and you have the likelihood
to yield more results when you upload your third-party results.

Read more about it here.
https://www.familytreedna.com/landing/atdna-landing.aspx

Saludos,
Claudia
www.guadalajaradispensas.com

Hi guys,

I have two family finder results that have been uploaded to the the Los
Altos de
Jalisco DNA project . I'm excited to see how many of us can join this
project. I'm not sure how many of you remember, but Rick Rodriguez, a
Nuestros Ranchos member, is one of the administrators for this project. He
was also the main organizer for the 1st Conferencia de Genealogia e
Historia de Los Altos in Valle de Guadalupe back in 2008.

I'm currently having a few of my other lines being tested right now and I
might purchase the family finder product for my family members being tested
since its on sale for $99!

Saludos,
Juan Aguayo

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Armando wrote:

> Hello Claudia,
>
> Your message did not get sent out by the NR email system. In the interest
> of getting your message out in an email I am sending this out.
>
> I would like to add that once they get their autosomal test transferred to
> FamilyTreeDNA from Ancestry.com or 23andme they can join the Los Altos de
> Jalisco DNA project at the following page -
>
>
> http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join-request.aspx?group=losaltosdejalisco&vGroup=losaltosdejalisco
>
> The goal is 1,000 participants. They are at 130 members and just a week or
> two ago they were only at 30 members. The more members the better.
>
> Also, a reminder to other NR members - Ancestry.com does not have a
> chromosome browser and neither of them have DNA projects.
>
> Saludos,
> Armando
>
> ________________________________
>
> Enviado por Claudia_Reynoso el Mié, 2013-07-10 17:26.
>
> Thank you Armando for keeping NR members informed about DNA testing and
> options.
>
> I wanted to add that if any of you tested with 23andMe's V3 chip or the NEW
> Autosomal test from Ancestry.com, you can import the autosomal part of your
> results to Family Tree DNA for $69 US and get more matches. Please remember
> that FTDNA has one of the largest DNA databases and you have the likelihood
> to yield more results when you upload your third-party results.
>
> Read more about it here.
> https://www.familytreedna.com/landing/atdna-landing.aspx
>
> Saludos,
> Claudia
> www.guadalajaradispensas.com

would you suggest those of us who have ancestors from other parts of Jalisco, (Ciudad Guzman and Tamazula) join the los Altos group?

________________________________
From: Armando
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:53 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Upload your 23andMe & Ancestry.com DNA results to FTDNA

Hello Claudia,

Your message did not get sent out by the NR email system. In the interest
of getting your message out in an email I am sending this out.

I would like to add that once they get their autosomal test transferred to
FamilyTreeDNA from Ancestry.com or 23andme they can join the Los Altos de
Jalisco DNA project at the following page -

http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join-request.aspx?group=losaltosdejalisco&vGroup=losaltosdejalisco

The goal is 1,000 participants. They are at 130 members and just a week or
two ago they were only at 30 members. The more members the better.

Also, a reminder to other NR members -  Ancestry.com does not have a
chromosome browser and neither of them have DNA projects.

Saludos,
Armando

________________________________

Enviado por Claudia_Reynoso el Mié, 2013-07-10 17:26.

Thank you Armando for keeping NR members informed about DNA testing and
options.

I wanted to add that if any of you tested with 23andMe's V3 chip or the NEW
Autosomal test from Ancestry.com, you can import the autosomal part of your
results to Family Tree DNA for $69 US and get more matches. Please remember
that FTDNA has one of the largest DNA databases and you have the likelihood
to yield more results when you upload your third-party results.

Read more about it here.
https://www.familytreedna.com/landing/atdna-landing.aspx

Saludos,
Claudia
www.guadalajaradispensas.com

I should have added that I know these families lines (Gutierrez and Mendez) lived in Michoacán before going to Jalisco mid 1700's.
Linda in B.C.

________________________________
From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
To: "announce@nuestrosranchos.com"
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Upload your 23andMe & Ancestry.com DNA results to FTDNA

would you suggest those of us who have ancestors from other parts of Jalisco, (Ciudad Guzman and Tamazula) join the los Altos group?

________________________________
From: Armando
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:53 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Upload your 23andMe & Ancestry.com DNA results to FTDNA
 

Hello Claudia,

Your message did not get sent out by the NR email system. In the interest
of getting your message out in an email I am sending this out.

I would like to add that once they get their autosomal test transferred to
FamilyTreeDNA from Ancestry.com or 23andme they can join the Los Altos de
Jalisco DNA project at the following page -

http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join-request.aspx?group=losaltosdejalisco&vGroup=losaltosdejalisco

The goal is 1,000 participants. They are at 130 members and just a week or
two ago they were only at 30 members. The more members the better.

Also, a reminder to other NR members -  Ancestry.com does not have a
chromosome browser and neither of them have DNA projects.

Saludos,
Armando

________________________________

Enviado por Claudia_Reynoso el Mié, 2013-07-10 17:26.

Thank you Armando for keeping NR members informed about DNA testing and
options.

I wanted to add that if any of you tested with 23andMe's V3 chip or the NEW
Autosomal test from Ancestry.com, you can import the autosomal part of your
results to Family Tree DNA for $69 US and get more matches. Please remember
that FTDNA has one of the largest DNA databases and you have the likelihood
to yield more results when you upload your third-party results.

Read more about it here.
https://www.familytreedna.com/landing/atdna-landing.aspx

Saludos,
Claudia
www.guadalajaradispensas.com

Hello Linda,

A few weeks ago the administrator of the Los Altos de Jalisco DNA group had
expressed to me that they were accepting people with ancestry from Jalisco,
Aguascalientes, and Zacatecas. Recently the wording on the description of
the project has changed. However, since a majority of the people in Los
Altos have distant relatives in Jalisco, Aguascalientes, and Zacatecas
those people should be accepted. Their DNA is our DNA and their goal is
1,000 participants. That won't happen if they are too restrictive and they
won't be able to triangulate on autosomal DNA without enough participants.
As far as them having been in Michoacán prior to going to Jalisco. It
shouldn't matter because a lot of our ancestors were elsewhere, including
Michoacán, before going to Jalisco. The important point is that they did go
to Jalisco. I suggest that you request to join the group. It will be their
decision if they want to accept you or not.

Also, their main goals are the Y-DNA and mtDNA results but autosomal
testing (Family Finder) will be promoted once they meet their primary goal.
I have been encouraging the Family Finder test because we need it for
triangulation and there are many of us with well documented trees that have
only a few 5th generation ancestors, or older, that are missing. With
enough participants this will help us identify which autosomal chromosomes
came from which ancestor. Take a look at the amazing job this person did
with triangulation using the autosomal results of her and her matches. It's
the last picture of the article at
http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com/2013/07/a-second-cousin-adds-to-my-chromosome.html
It will be nice if we can do that with most of the lines that all of us at
NR share.

Saludos,
Armando

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Erlinda Castanon-Long <
longsjourney@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I should have added that I know these families lines (Gutierrez and
> Mendez) lived in Michoacán before going to Jalisco mid 1700's.
> Linda in B.C.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
> To: "announce@nuestrosranchos.com"
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Upload your 23andMe & Ancestry.com DNA
> results to FTDNA
>
>
> would you suggest those of us who have ancestors from other parts of
> Jalisco, (Ciudad Guzman and Tamazula) join the los Altos group?
>
>
>
>

Hello Juan,

I recommend that you do get the Family Finder test you're contemplating on
getting for your family members. Siblings only carry 50% of each others
DNA. We also only have half of the chromosomes from one parent and half
from the other. What's worse is that the 50% you get from a parent isn't
exactly 25% of one grandparent and 25% of the other grandparent. This is
due to recombination. The more relatives that test, both close and distant
the more autosomal information you will have about your ancestors and you
will be able to find more relatives if that also interests you.

Saludos,
Armando

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Juan Aguayo wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I have two family finder results that have been uploaded to the the Los
> Altos de
> Jalisco DNA project . I'm excited to see how many of us can join this
> project. I'm not sure how many of you remember, but Rick Rodriguez, a
> Nuestros Ranchos member, is one of the administrators for this project. He
> was also the main organizer for the 1st Conferencia de Genealogia e
> Historia de Los Altos in Valle de Guadalupe back in 2008.
>
> I'm currently having a few of my other lines being tested right now and I
> might purchase the family finder product for my family members being tested
> since its on sale for $99!
>
> Saludos,
> Juan Aguayo
>
>
>

Hello Armando,

Would you please outline your thought process/method that you use when viewing a FamilyFinder Autosomal test results pages.

From the FF test results pages, do you first scan the pages looking for known matches/relatives?

It is the unknown matches that appear on the test results pages that I refer my questions to...

I am not sure how to proceed, is it the shared Cm comparisons, and from the shared Cms what is your next step in deciding which of the matches you will contact first?

Is your decision based on the number of shared Cms and/or the longest block?

I have downloaded the FamilyTree DNA tutorial for the FamilyFinder Autosomal, but continue to have many questions...you appear to be well versed on this subject and I would truly appreciate your input in explaining how to use the autosomal test results in establishing/linking with unknown relatives...

I have viewed the website that you suggested, but I'm thinking that the comparisons/charts that are featured are based on known family members that have taken the autosomal test. Please correct me if my thinking is not accurate.

How does the YDNA and the mtDNA help with the FamilyFinder Autosomal testing in establish kinship?

Thank you for sharing ...
Patricia J Silva Corbera

----- Original Message -----
From: "Armando"
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:49:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Upload your 23andMe & Ancestry.com DNA results to FTDNA

Hello Juan,

I recommend that you do get the Family Finder test you're contemplating on
getting for your family members. Siblings only carry 50% of each others
DNA. We also only have half of the chromosomes from one parent and half
from the other. What's worse is that the 50% you get from a parent isn't
exactly 25% of one grandparent and 25% of the other grandparent. This is
due to recombination. The more relatives that test, both close and distant
the more autosomal information you will have about your ancestors and you
will be able to find more relatives if that also interests you.

Saludos,
Armando

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Juan Aguayo wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I have two family finder results that have been uploaded to the the Los
> Altos de
> Jalisco DNA project . I'm excited to see how many of us can join this
> project. I'm not sure how many of you remember, but Rick Rodriguez, a
> Nuestros Ranchos member, is one of the administrators for this project. He
> was also the main organizer for the 1st Conferencia de Genealogia e
> Historia de Los Altos in Valle de Guadalupe back in 2008.
>
> I'm currently having a few of my other lines being tested right now and I
> might purchase the family finder product for my family members being tested
> since its on sale for $99!
>
> Saludos,
> Juan Aguayo
>
>
>

Hi Patricia,
 
Thank you for asking.  I'd also be interested in reading Armando's informed responses to your questions. 
Alice
 
 

From: Pat Corbera
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Upload your 23andMe & Ancestry.com DNA results to FTDNA

Hello Armando,

Would you please outline your thought process/method that you use when viewing a FamilyFinder Autosomal test results pages.

From the FF test results pages, do you first scan the pages looking for known matches/relatives?

It is the unknown matches that appear on the test results pages that I refer my questions to...

I am not sure how to proceed, is it the shared Cm comparisons, and from the shared Cms what is your next step in deciding which of the matches you will contact first?

Is your decision based on the number of shared Cms and/or the longest block?

I have downloaded the FamilyTree DNA tutorial for the FamilyFinder Autosomal, but continue to have many questions...you appear to be well versed on this subject and I would truly appreciate your input in explaining how to use the autosomal test results in establishing/linking with unknown relatives...

I have viewed the website that you suggested, but I'm thinking that the comparisons/charts that are featured are based on known family members that have taken the autosomal test.  Please correct me if my thinking is not accurate.

How does the YDNA and the mtDNA help with the FamilyFinder Autosomal testing in establish kinship?

Thank you for sharing ...
Patricia J Silva Corbera

----- Original Message -----
From: "Armando"
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:49:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Upload your 23andMe & Ancestry.com DNA results to FTDNA

Hello Juan,

I recommend that you do get the Family Finder test you're contemplating on
getting for your family members. Siblings only carry 50% of each others
DNA. We also only have half of the chromosomes from one parent and half
from the other. What's worse is that the 50% you get from a parent isn't
exactly 25% of one grandparent and 25% of the other grandparent. This is
due to recombination. The more relatives that test, both close and distant
the more autosomal information you will have about your ancestors and you
will be able to find more relatives if that also interests you.

Saludos,
Armando

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Juan Aguayo wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I have two family finder results that have been uploaded to the the Los
> Altos de
> Jalisco DNA project . I'm excited to see how many of us can join this
> project. I'm not sure how many of you remember, but Rick Rodriguez, a
> Nuestros Ranchos member, is one of the administrators for this project. He
> was also the main organizer for the 1st Conferencia de Genealogia e
> Historia de Los Altos in Valle de Guadalupe back in 2008.
>
> I'm currently having a few of my other lines being tested right now and I
> might purchase the family finder product for my family members being tested
> since its on sale for $99!
>
> Saludos,
> Juan Aguayo
>
>
>

Hi Patricia,
 
Thank you for asking.  I'd also be interested in reading Armando's informed responses to your questions. 
Alice
 
 

From: Pat Corbera
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Upload your 23andMe & Ancestry.com DNA results to FTDNA

Hello Armando,

Would you please outline your thought process/method that you use when viewing a FamilyFinder Autosomal test results pages.

From the FF test results pages, do you first scan the pages looking for known matches/relatives?

It is the unknown matches that appear on the test results pages that I refer my questions to...

I am not sure how to proceed, is it the shared Cm comparisons, and from the shared Cms what is your next step in deciding which of the matches you will contact first?

Is your decision based on the number of shared Cms and/or the longest block?

I have downloaded the FamilyTree DNA tutorial for the FamilyFinder Autosomal, but continue to have many questions...you appear to be well versed on this subject and I would truly appreciate your input in explaining how to use the autosomal test results in establishing/linking with unknown relatives...

I have viewed the website that you suggested, but I'm thinking that the comparisons/charts that are featured are based on known family members that have taken the autosomal test.  Please correct me if my thinking is not accurate.

How does the YDNA and the mtDNA help with the FamilyFinder Autosomal testing in establish kinship?

Thank you for sharing ...
Patricia J Silva Corbera

----- Original Message -----
From: "Armando"
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:49:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Upload your 23andMe & Ancestry.com DNA results to FTDNA

Hello Juan,

I recommend that you do get the Family Finder test you're contemplating on
getting for your family members. Siblings only carry 50% of each others
DNA. We also only have half of the chromosomes from one parent and half
from the other. What's worse is that the 50% you get from a parent isn't
exactly 25% of one grandparent and 25% of the other grandparent. This is
due to recombination. The more relatives that test, both close and distant
the more autosomal information you will have about your ancestors and you
will be able to find more relatives if that also interests you.

Saludos,
Armando

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Juan Aguayo wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I have two family finder results that have been uploaded to the the Los
> Altos de
> Jalisco DNA project . I'm excited to see how many of us can join this
> project. I'm not sure how many of you remember, but Rick Rodriguez, a
> Nuestros Ranchos member, is one of the administrators for this project. He
> was also the main organizer for the 1st Conferencia de Genealogia e
> Historia de Los Altos in Valle de Guadalupe back in 2008.
>
> I'm currently having a few of my other lines being tested right now and I
> might purchase the family finder product for my family members being tested
> since its on sale for $99!
>
> Saludos,
> Juan Aguayo
>
>
>

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