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By jamartinez41 - Posted on 17 January 2013

Hi, I am new here and I am trying to find more information on my ancestry and I am trying to get a sense as to where my ancestors are from since my family has no clue as to where we come from. I have been doing a lot of research for almost 9 months now and have been able to find a lot of interesting stuff that has surprised my whole family however I can not find more information about a specific family. I am stuck on my 2nd-great grandmother's parents and their family. Her name was Maria Patrocinio? or Patrocinia? Dimas born on the 17th of September of 1883 and baptized on the 1st of October 1883. She had a daughter who is my great grandmother named Vicenta Camarena with a man whose name I still don't know besides his last name (Camarena). Maria Patrocinio? or Patrocinia? Dimas moved to the United States and lived in Silver City New Mexico where she re-married to a man named Marcos Acevedo. She was the daughter of Santiago Dimas and Maria De la Rosa. Santiago's parents were Macedonio? or Celedonio? Dimas and Petra Ramirez. Maria De la Rosa (whom which I am more interested in) was the daughter of Juan De la Rosa? or just Rosa? and Victoria De Abila. So far that is all I know. I am more interested in Maria De la Rosa and her parents since I want to find my mothers direct maternal lineage. Thank You to anyone who took the time to read my message and decided to help :)

So where was Maria de la Rosa born? do you have the online record? If so
supply the url. I saw some children born to a Juan and Victoria in Jerez
around the 1850's but without a location it is difficult to narrow down the
search. Location is one of your best clues in genealogy.

Joseph

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Joseph Puentes
Clean@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com

you probably already have the following:

Petra Dimas Rosa
Mexico, Baptisms, 1560-1950
christening
08 May 1869
EL SAGRARIO OR SANTO DOMINGO,ZACATECAS,ZACATECAS,MEXICO
parentSantiago Dimas, Leocadia De La Rosa
=========================================
Martina Dimas Rosa
Mexico, Baptisms, 1560-1950
christening
23 Nov 1873
JEREZ,JEREZ DE GARCIA SALINAS,ZACATECAS,MEXICO
parentSantiago Dimas, Leocadia Dela Rosa
=========================================
Refugia Dimas Rosa
Mexico, Baptisms, 1560-1950
birth
08 May 1871
christening
15 May 1871
JEREZ,JEREZ DE GARCIA SALINAS,ZACATECAS,MEXICO
Santiago Dimas, Maria De La Rosa

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> bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.com] On Behalf Of
josemartinez2420@hotmail.com
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> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Dimas / De la Rosa Family????
>
> Hi, I am new here and I am trying to find more information on my ancestry
and I am trying
> to get a sense as to where my ancestors are from since my family has no
clue as to where
> we come from. I have been doing a lot of research for almost 9 months now
and have been
> able to find a lot of interesting stuff that has surprised my whole family
however I can not
> find more information about a specific family. I am stuck on my 2nd-great
grandmother's
> parents and their family. Her name was Maria Patrocinio? or Patrocinia?
Dimas born on
> the 17th of September of 1883 and baptized on the 1st of October 1883.
She had a
> daughter who is my great grandmother named Vicenta Camarena with a man
whose name I
> still don't know besides his last name (Camarena). Maria Patrocinio? or
Patrocinia? Dimas
> moved to the United States and lived in Silver City New Mexico where she
re-married to a
> man named Marcos Acevedo. She was the daughter of Santiago Dimas and Maria
De la
> Rosa. Santiago's parents w ere Macedonio? or Celedonio? Dimas and Petra
Ramirez.
> Maria De la Rosa (whom which I am more interested in) was the daughter of
Juan De la
> Rosa? or just Rosa? and Victoria De Abila. So far that is all I know. I
am more interested
> in Maria De la Rosa and her parents since I want to find my mothers direct
maternal
> lineage. Thank You to anyone who took the time to read my message and
decided to help
> :)

Hi :) thank you so much for your help and unfortunately no I do not know where Maria de la Rosa was born I only know the information on the post. And actually I only have the record for Refugia Dimas Rosa. I do know that Patrocinia Dimas Rosa was born in Jerez, Zacatecas but that is the only think I forgot to mention on my post. I also just looked for those records you found and yes those are her daughters and I believe then that her name was Maria Leocadia Rosa - Avila since on Patrocinia's baptism record it shows Santiago Dimas and Maria Rosa as her parents and lists the same grandparents shown on Petra Dimas - Rosa's baptism record.

Hi, I don't think I have more than you do but not sure you have this record, I hope it helps some
Linda in Boulder City, Nv
.
marriage information recorded 19 April 1862 in Jerez, Zac
Santiago Dimas from Cienega age 18
Parents: Macedonio Dimas deceased and Petra Ramirez
With: Leocadia de la Rosa from Cienega age 15
Parents: Juan de la Rosa and Victoria de Avila both living
No blood ties
Wit: Tomas Collaso from Cienega married age 79 jornalero
Wit: Dionicio Cardona from Cienega married age 50 labrador
Wit: Quirino Ramos from Cienega widower age 47 labrador
Posted 20, 27 April and 4 May 1862
source: marriage information 0439908

________________________________
From: "josemartinez2420@hotmail.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:29 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Dimas / De la Rosa Family????

Hi, I am new here and I am trying to find more information on my ancestry and I am trying to get a sense as to where my ancestors are from since my family has no clue as to where we come from.  I have been doing a lot of research for almost 9 months now and have been able to find a lot of interesting stuff that has surprised my whole family however I can not find more information about a specific family.  I am stuck on my 2nd-great grandmother's parents and their family.  Her name was Maria Patrocinio? or Patrocinia? Dimas born on the 17th of September of 1883 and baptized on the 1st of October 1883.  She had a daughter who is my great grandmother named Vicenta Camarena with a man whose name I still don't know besides his last name (Camarena). Maria Patrocinio? or Patrocinia? Dimas moved to the United States and lived in Silver City New Mexico where she re-married to a man named Marcos Acevedo. She was the daughter of Santiago Dimas and Maria De la
Rosa.  Santiago's parents w
ere Macedonio? or Celedonio? Dimas and Petra Ramirez.  Maria De la Rosa (whom which I am more interested in) was the daughter of Juan De la Rosa? or just Rosa? and Victoria De Abila.  So far that is all I know.  I am more interested in Maria De la Rosa and her parents since I want to find my mothers direct maternal lineage.  Thank You to anyone who took the time to read my message and decided to help :)

almost forgot to send you this record:
 baptism 14 July 1840 in Jerez, Zac
Jose Cirilo born in Chula 4 days old 7pm
parents: Macedonio Dias and Petra Ramires
pat grn: Victor Dimas and Josefa Rosales
mat grn: Albino Ramires and Sotera Mercado
godparent: maternal grandmother
source: 0439851 Jerez baptism
.
 
 

________________________________
From: "josemartinez2420@hotmail.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:29 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Dimas / De la Rosa Family????

Hi, I am new here and I am trying to find more information on my ancestry and I am trying to get a sense as to where my ancestors are from since my family has no clue as to where we come from.  I have been doing a lot of research for almost 9 months now and have been able to find a lot of interesting stuff that has surprised my whole family however I can not find more information about a specific family.  I am stuck on my 2nd-great grandmother's parents and their family.  Her name was Maria Patrocinio? or Patrocinia? Dimas born on the 17th of September of 1883 and baptized on the 1st of October 1883.  She had a daughter who is my great grandmother named Vicenta Camarena with a man whose name I still don't know besides his last name (Camarena). Maria Patrocinio? or Patrocinia? Dimas moved to the United States and lived in Silver City New Mexico where she re-married to a man named Marcos Acevedo. She was the daughter of Santiago Dimas and Maria De la
Rosa.  Santiago's parents w
ere Macedonio? or Celedonio? Dimas and Petra Ramirez.  Maria De la Rosa (whom which I am more interested in) was the daughter of Juan De la Rosa? or just Rosa? and Victoria De Abila.  So far that is all I know.  I am more interested in Maria De la Rosa and her parents since I want to find my mothers direct maternal lineage.  Thank You to anyone who took the time to read my message and decided to help :)

one more: All these records can be found on the Familysearch online program.marriage information recorded 14 Aug 1792 in Jerez, Zac
Jose Alvino Ramirez, Mestizo from Santa Gertrudis
Widower of Maria de la Crus Garcia for 10 years buried in Fresnillo
With: Maria Sotera/Sotelo Mercado, Espanola from La Noria
Widow of Manuel de Avila for 5 years buried in Jerez
Witness: Jose Antonio Garcia, Mulato Libre age 58 from La Noria
Witness: Alejandro Robalcalva, Indio age 40 from Susticacan
Witness: Tadeo Solis, Mulato Esclavo age 48 in Jerez
source: 0439898 Jerez marriage information record
.

________________________________
From: "josemartinez2420@hotmail.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:29 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Dimas / De la Rosa Family????

Hi, I am new here and I am trying to find more information on my ancestry and I am trying to get a sense as to where my ancestors are from since my family has no clue as to where we come from.  I have been doing a lot of research for almost 9 months now and have been able to find a lot of interesting stuff that has surprised my whole family however I can not find more information about a specific family.  I am stuck on my 2nd-great grandmother's parents and their family.  Her name was Maria Patrocinio? or Patrocinia? Dimas born on the 17th of September of 1883 and baptized on the 1st of October 1883.  She had a daughter who is my great grandmother named Vicenta Camarena with a man whose name I still don't know besides his last name (Camarena). Maria Patrocinio? or Patrocinia? Dimas moved to the United States and lived in Silver City New Mexico where she re-married to a man named Marcos Acevedo. She was the daughter of Santiago Dimas and Maria De la
Rosa.  Santiago's parents w
ere Macedonio? or Celedonio? Dimas and Petra Ramirez.  Maria De la Rosa (whom which I am more interested in) was the daughter of Juan De la Rosa? or just Rosa? and Victoria De Abila.  So far that is all I know.  I am more interested in Maria De la Rosa and her parents since I want to find my mothers direct maternal lineage.  Thank You to anyone who took the time to read my message and decided to help :)

Hi Linda :) Thank YOU!!! I found the records you listed and that is them. Thank You so much for your help. I actually found more information from the Dimas side of my family through Santiago (my 2nd great grandfather) instead of his wife (Maria Leocadia de la Rosa). I also found his paternal grandparents Victor Dimas and Josefa Rosales along with his maternal grandparents thanks to you (Jose Albino Ramirez and Sotera Mercado.)

there is a child for Albino Ramires and Sotero Mercado, Maria Josefa baptism 9 Oct 1814 in film #439844 but it's a really hard film to follow and I couldn't find it but if you can it should give you another generation.
happy hunting, Linda

________________________________
From: "josemartinez2420@hotmail.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Dimas / De la Rosa

Hi Linda :) Thank YOU!!! I found the records you listed and that is them.  Thank You so much for your help.  I actually found more information from the Dimas side of my family through Santiago (my 2nd great grandfather) instead of his wife (Maria Leocadia de la Rosa).  I also found his paternal grandparents Victor Dimas and Josefa Rosales along with his maternal grandparents thanks to you Jose Albino Ramirez and Sotera Mercado. Again thank you so much for your help

I forgot to tell you I have my files on Rootsweb.com, a free site.. my file name is Mexico and then go to the index to find if there is anything of interest to you.
Linda

________________________________
From: "josemartinez2420@hotmail.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Dimas / De la Rosa

Hi Linda :) Thank YOU!!! I found the records you listed and that is them.  Thank You so much for your help.  I actually found more information from the Dimas side of my family through Santiago (my 2nd great grandfather) instead of his wife (Maria Leocadia de la Rosa).  I also found his paternal grandparents Victor Dimas and Josefa Rosales along with his maternal grandparents thanks to you Jose Albino Ramirez and Sotera Mercado. Again thank you so much for your help

Hi Linda once again thank you so much for your help. I checked the website that you listed and it has been very very helpful. I now know more information about my 2nd Great grandmother (Maria Patrocinio Dimas - De la Rosa born on the 17th of September 1883 in Jerez, Zacatecas) and her family. Her parents were (Santiago Dimas - Ramirez born abt. 1844) and (Maria Leocadia De la Rosa - De Avila born abt. 1847 in Jerez, Zacatecas). Since I focused more on just my mother's maternal lineage I found that Maria Leocadia's mother was Maria Victoria De Avila - Gonzalez born on 03 March 1821 in Jerez, Zacatecas. Maria Victoria's parents were Marcial de Avila and Maxima Gonzalez born abt. 1785 and they were both from Jerez, Zacatecas. That is as far as T've gotten, since I could not keep going through just my mom's maternal line since I found the baptism record for Maria Victoria De Avila - Gonzalez (baptized on 11 March 1821 in Jerez) and under her maternal grandparents (Maxima Gonzalez's parents) it says "Abuela no dio razon" and only lists her maternal grandfather as Manuel Gonzalez. I also noticed that they were all from Cienega, Jerez, Zacatecas as far as I have reached with Maxima Gonzalez (1785) my maternal ancestors were there for a very long time since 1785 or maybe longer once I keep finding more people.

good morning. I'm really glad my files were able to help you in your search.  I'm still trying to figure out who in your family married someone in mine.  I only put people in my files that are associated through marriage with mine. I do have lots of family from Cienega and will let you know when I figure it out. My base person is my Dad Chet (Aniceto) Castanon, if you put that in pedigree in text form it will show my lineage from Zacatecas.
 
Can you share with me the date of Maria Patrocinio Dimas baptism?  I can't find her and would like to add her to the records. What do you have that shows that your Victoria is the same one as the daughter of Marcial and Maxima?
 
Thank you for taking the time to let me know it helped you, that's why I post them on Rootsweb instead of Ancestry. They are connected but Ancestry charges and Rootsweb does not..
Linda in Boulder City, Nv
 

________________________________
From: "josemartinez2420@hotmail.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Dimas / De la Rosa

Hi Linda once again thank you so much for your help.  I checked the website that you listed and it has been very very helpful.  I now know more information about my 2nd Great grandmother (Maria Patrocinio Dimas - De la Rosa born on the 17th of September 1883 in Jerez, Zacatecas) and her family.  Her parents were (Santiago Dimas - Ramirez born abt. 1844) and (Maria Leocadia De la Rosa - De Avila born abt. 1847 in Jerez, Zacatecas).  Since I focused more on just my mother's maternal lineage I found that Maria Leocadia's mother was Maria Victoria De Avila - Gonzalez born on 03 March 1821 in Jerez, Zacatecas.  Maria Victoria's parents were Marcial de Avila and Maxima Gonzalez born abt. 1785 and they were both from Jerez, Zacatecas.  That is as far as T've gotten, since I could not keep going through just my mom's maternal line since I found the baptism record for Maria Victoria De Avila - Gonzalez (baptized on 11 March 1821 in Jerez) and under her
maternal grandparents (Maxima Go
nzalez's parents) it says "Abuela no dio razon" and only lists her maternal grandfather as Manuel Gonzalez.  I also noticed that they were all from Cienega, Jerez, Zacatecas as far as I have reached with Maxima Gonzalez (1785) my maternal ancestors were there for a very long time since 1785 or maybe longer once I keep finding more people.

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