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Y-DNA 37 for Surnames Macias and Guerra

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By hg0032 - Posted on 27 November 2012

I am looking for other people with the surnames of Macias and Guerra with or without documentation to take a Y-DNA 37 marker test in order to find matches. I have learned I descend from Alonso Guerra Valadez the son of Mateo Macías Valadez according to documentation. Y-DNA matches can help us prove lineages.

This is very exciting, so I hope some of you may be interested. Feel free to email if you have any questions.

Hector Guerra

Gary Felix has a webpage with DNA results from different Mexican families, including Guerra and Macías. The results from R. Macías are from a family from Michoacán and they are a 34/37 match to the results of my Navarro family (which according to one source might be from Jalisco). We have Y-DNA 67 results, unfortunately so far they only have the Y-DNA 37 ones, so we can't see if we are a closer match. By comparing with other Navarro results, I have reasons to believe the families might have a 2-marker mismatch rather than the 3-marker mismatch we are getting among individual samples.

Our samples are the first and fourth Navarro and first Macías ones at:
http://garyfelix.tripod.com/index63.htm

Best regards,
Victoriano Navarro

Hi Hector,
I descend from Nicolas Alonso Ramirez Macias Valades & Maria Leonor Retamosa via Leonor Vasquez Macias Valades de Retamosa married with Alonso de Alba parents of Juana Bautista de Alba y Retamosa which was married to Santiago Pedrosa, and from Alonso Guerra married with Maria Lopez de Nava parents of Juana Ruiz de Nava and Catalina Lopez de Nava y Guerra. Are these part of the Guerra Valadez you are referring to? and if so, Would you let me know more info as to how to get that DNA test?
Bertha Alicia Casanova

Y-DNA tests are for males through paternal lines only and whose surname was
passed from father to son. His surname was passed down from father to son.
He is descended from Mateo Macías Valadez Retamosa a brother of Leonor
Vasquez Macias Valades de Retamosa. Mateo married Catalina López de Nava
the daughter of Alonso Lorenso Guerra and María de Nava. Mateo and Catalina
fathered, among others, Alonso Guerra Valadez who married Inés Rodríguez
Gallardo. Alonso and Inés fathered, among others, Joseph Guerra Gallardo
who married Ana Vazquez de Zermeño y Rodriguez Portugal for which they had
a dispensa de cuarto grado de consanguinidad. They fathered Juan Tadeo
Guerra y Vásquez de Zermeño from whom Hector descends.

I believe your paternal line is from a different surname so if you had a
male relative take a Y-DNA test it would be for that surname and not the
Guerra and Macias Valadez surnames. It would still be great to know the
results of a 37 marker Y-DNA test from one of your male relatives if it is
a surname from what was once Nueva Galicia. You can order the test at
http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Mexico-DNA

Armando

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:31 AM, wrote:

> Hi Hector,
> I descend from Nicolas Alonso Ramirez Macias Valades & Maria Leonor
> Retamosa via Leonor Vasquez Macias Valades de Retamosa married with Alonso
> de Alba parents of Juana Bautista de Alba y Retamosa which was married to
> Santiago Pedrosa, and from Alonso Guerra married with Maria Lopez de Nava
> parents of Juana Ruiz de Nava and Catalina Lopez de Nava y Guerra. Are
> these part of the Guerra Valadez you are referring to? and if so, Would you
> let me know more info as to how to get that DNA test?
> Bertha Alicia Casanova

Hello Mr. Navarro, My YDNA 37 samples show i have matched the Guerra family. My ancestor Juan Macias (mestizo) married Beatriz Lopez (espanola) in 1665 ags. do you or any other reader have associated info? Thank you, Raul Macias

Hello Mr. Macías,

Unfortunately I don't have any information on your ancestors.
Regarding your DNA results, you may want to compare it to the ones of other Guerra and Macías families at Gary Felix's webpage:
http://garyfelix.tripod.com/index63.htm

By the way, after my previous post, the family of R. Macías (originally from Michoacán) decided refine their sample to 67 markers and some Navarro second cousins of mine also took tests. By comparing all the results, it seems like the two families indeed have just a 2-marker mismatch.

I still have not found any documentation linking this Macías family from Michoacán to my Navarro family from Coahuila (which according to one source may be originally from Jalisco).

Best regards,
Victoriano Navarro

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