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By agutierrez07 - Posted on 18 August 2012

I would like to get more info on my grandfather--for one what is the correct spelling of his first name. It is difficult to read his name on the first document I found.

Ann, do you have the image number, year, and place so that we can help
you? I think you will find several ways of writing his name. I look at
his siblings to see what spelling is used for their father/mother and I
choose by majority rule? Also in marriage records the name may vary as
well. I choose the name I like but I also keep the name on the record for
verification. That is just me. I'm sure others have better ideas.
-Esther

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:33 PM, wrote:

> I would like to get more info on my grandfather--for one what is the
> correct spelling of his first name. It is difficult to read his name on
> the first document I found. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>
> To post, send email to:
> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.**com
>
> To change your subscription, log on to:
> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
>

Yes Esther,   it is Image # 657 of 894.  The name appears as Theserquio on the
document but I'm almost sure my sister said his name was Iziquiel Ezequiel.  
Thank you so much. 

 Ann M. Gutierrez

________________________________
From: Esther Jordan
To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 7:50:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco

Ann, do you have the image number, year, and place so that we can help
you?  I think you will find several ways of writing his name.  I look at
his siblings to see what spelling is used for their father/mother and I
choose by majority rule?  Also in marriage records the name may vary as
well.  I choose the name I like but I also keep the name on the record for
verification.  That is just me.  I'm sure others have better ideas.
-Esther

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:33 PM, wrote:

> I would like to get more info on my grandfather--for one what is the
> correct spelling of his first name.  It is difficult to read his name on
> the first document I found.  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>
> To post, send email to:
> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.**com
>
> To change your subscription, log on to:
> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
>

Esther needed more info than that. I go ahead and help the both of you.

They were from San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco. Exiquio or Ezequiel
Gutierrez, b. 1869; married Maria Teresa Gomez or Guerrero, b. 1871 were
married around 1886? Children of that marriage were: Ricardo b.1903; 2)
Franciso, b. 1907; 3) Jose, b. 1909; 4) Maria Socorro, b 12 July 1912.

The document Ann is referring to is at
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21318-9610-43?cc=1918187&wc=12863898

You should do what Esther suggested and find the civil and church records
of the siblings of Socorro at

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21318-9610-43?cc=1918187&wc=12863898#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F12857217%3Fcc%3D1918187

and at

https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F12503277%3Fcc%3D1874591

Saludos,
Armando

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Ann M. Gutierrez <
agutierrez07@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Yes Esther, it is Image # 657 of 894. The name appears as Theserquio on
> the
> document but I'm almost sure my sister said his name was Iziquiel
> Ezequiel.
> Thank you so much.
>
> Ann M. Gutierrez
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Esther Jordan
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 7:50:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
> Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco
>
> Ann, do you have the image number, year, and place so that we can help
> you? I think you will find several ways of writing his name. I look at
> his siblings to see what spelling is used for their father/mother and I
> choose by majority rule? Also in marriage records the name may vary as
> well. I choose the name I like but I also keep the name on the record for
> verification. That is just me. I'm sure others have better ideas.
> -Esther
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:33 PM, wrote:
>
> > I would like to get more info on my grandfather--for one what is the
> > correct spelling of his first name. It is difficult to read his name on
> > the first document I found. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)NuestrosRanchos.**com
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
> >

Armando, thank you.  Now that you have pointed me in the right direction, I will
search for what I want.  Thank you for your help and patience.

 Ann M. Gutierrez

________________________________
From: Armando
To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 8:35:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco

Esther needed more info than that. I go ahead and help the both of you.

They were from San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco. Exiquio or Ezequiel
Gutierrez, b. 1869; married Maria Teresa Gomez or Guerrero, b. 1871 were
married around 1886?  Children of that marriage were: Ricardo b.1903; 2)
Franciso, b. 1907; 3) Jose, b. 1909; 4) Maria Socorro, b 12 July 1912.

The document Ann is referring to is at
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21318-9610-43?cc=1918187&wc=12863898

You should do what Esther suggested and find the civil and church records
of the siblings of Socorro at

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21318-9610-43?cc=1918187&wc=12863898#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F12857217%3Fcc%3D1918187

and at

https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F12503277%3Fcc%3D1874591

Saludos,
Armando

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Ann M. Gutierrez <
agutierrez07@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Yes Esther,  it is Image # 657 of 894.  The name appears as Theserquio on
> the
> document but I'm almost sure my sister said his name was Iziquiel
> Ezequiel.
> Thank you so much.
>
>  Ann M. Gutierrez
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Esther Jordan
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 7:50:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
> Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco
>
> Ann, do you have the image number, year, and place so that we can help
> you?  I think you will find several ways of writing his name.  I look at
> his siblings to see what spelling is used for their father/mother and I
> choose by majority rule?  Also in marriage records the name may vary as
> well.  I choose the name I like but I also keep the name on the record for
> verification.  That is just me.  I'm sure others have better ideas.
> -Esther
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:33 PM, wrote:
>
> > I would like to get more info on my grandfather--for one what is the
> > correct spelling of his first name.  It is difficult to read his name on
> > the first document I found.  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)NuestrosRanchos.**com
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
> >

I need to thank all of you for your help in my searches. Once we got the baptismal on my mother---and the names of her parents, things begin to fall in place. I have found many of my ancestors and even found my father's baptismal in Leon, Gto. just by following the instructions given for a search. I am still searching but wanted to stop for a minute and thank you all. Armando, Arturo, Esther, Roy--to all the group
THANK YOU! MUCHAS GRACIAS....you've been great with this newbie.

Ann Marie Gutierrez
Chicago, IL

Armando, again thank you for your help and support on my searches.  I have
accomplished so much thanks to you guys pointing me in the right direction.  I
finally found my grandfather after hours of searching...the reason I could not
find him---I was given the wrong name by my cousins.  His real name was: Jose
Hexiguio  Gutierrez.  I don't know if it was that the priest did not know how to
spell Exequio but that is the way it was entered and I guess that is how it will
stay.  If you can point me in the right direction again...I can't find anything
on my grandmother and I'll bet it is because I was  given the wrong name again. 
Where else can I search to find her?  What I have is:
Maria Teresa Gomez,  I don't have a date of birth, I do imagine she was born in
San Diego since all the others...aunts/uncles etc. all in San Diego.  Is there
another way of searching.  Thank you. 

 Ann M. Gutierrez

________________________________
From: Armando
To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 8:35:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco

Esther needed more info than that. I go ahead and help the both of you.

They were from San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco. Exiquio or Ezequiel
Gutierrez, b. 1869; married Maria Teresa Gomez or Guerrero, b. 1871 were
married around 1886?  Children of that marriage were: Ricardo b.1903; 2)
Franciso, b. 1907; 3) Jose, b. 1909; 4) Maria Socorro, b 12 July 1912.

The document Ann is referring to is at
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21318-9610-43?cc=1918187&wc=12863898

You should do what Esther suggested and find the civil and church records
of the siblings of Socorro at

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21318-9610-43?cc=1918187&wc=12863898#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F12857217%3Fcc%3D1918187

and at

https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F12503277%3Fcc%3D1874591

Saludos,
Armando

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Ann M. Gutierrez <
agutierrez07@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Yes Esther,  it is Image # 657 of 894.  The name appears as Theserquio on
> the
> document but I'm almost sure my sister said his name was Iziquiel
> Ezequiel.
> Thank you so much.
>
>  Ann M. Gutierrez
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Esther Jordan
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 7:50:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
> Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco
>
> Ann, do you have the image number, year, and place so that we can help
> you?  I think you will find several ways of writing his name.  I look at
> his siblings to see what spelling is used for their father/mother and I
> choose by majority rule?  Also in marriage records the name may vary as
> well.  I choose the name I like but I also keep the name on the record for
> verification.  That is just me.  I'm sure others have better ideas.
> -Esther
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:33 PM, wrote:
>
> > I would like to get more info on my grandfather--for one what is the
> > correct spelling of his first name.  It is difficult to read his name on
> > the first document I found.  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)NuestrosRanchos.**com
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
> >

Who are you saying gave you the wrong name? The names are similar enough it
shouldn't have caused confusion. Over time you will see that you will have
to learn to not be so rigid because people that gave the names and the ones
that wrote them weren't so rigid in the pronunciation or the spelling.

There is no other way to look for the baptism or civil birth record other
than what Roy and I have given you. Not all of them can be found though and
you have to use what can be found.

Maria Teresa Gomez is definitely the right name for your grandmother. There
is no doubt. Her parents were Jesus Gomez and Porfiria Guerrero married 28
Nov 1883 in San Diego de Alejandría
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NZT5-XYD

Armando

On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Ann M. Gutierrez <
agutierrez07@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Armando, again thank you for your help and support on my searches. I have
> accomplished so much thanks to you guys pointing me in the right
> direction. I
> finally found my grandfather after hours of searching...the reason I could
> not
> find him---I was given the wrong name by my cousins. His real name was:
> Jose
> Hexiguio Gutierrez. I don't know if it was that the priest did not know
> how to
> spell Exequio but that is the way it was entered and I guess that is how
> it will
> stay. If you can point me in the right direction again...I can't find
> anything
> on my grandmother and I'll bet it is because I was given the wrong name
> again.
> Where else can I search to find her? What I have is:
> Maria Teresa Gomez, I don't have a date of birth, I do imagine she was
> born in
> San Diego since all the others...aunts/uncles etc. all in San Diego. Is
> there
> another way of searching. Thank you.
>
> Ann M. Gutierrez
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Armando
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 8:35:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
> Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco
>
> Esther needed more info than that. I go ahead and help the both of you.
>
> They were from San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco. Exiquio or Ezequiel
> Gutierrez, b. 1869; married Maria Teresa Gomez or Guerrero, b. 1871 were
> married around 1886? Children of that marriage were: Ricardo b.1903; 2)
> Franciso, b. 1907; 3) Jose, b. 1909; 4) Maria Socorro, b 12 July 1912.
>
> The document Ann is referring to is at
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21318-9610-43?cc=1918187&wc=12863898
>
>
> You should do what Esther suggested and find the civil and church records
> of the siblings of Socorro at
>
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21318-9610-43?cc=1918187&wc=12863898#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F12857217%3Fcc%3D1918187
>
>
> and at
>
>
> https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F12503277%3Fcc%3D1874591
>
>
>
> Saludos,
> Armando
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Ann M. Gutierrez <
> agutierrez07@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > Yes Esther, it is Image # 657 of 894. The name appears as Theserquio on
> > the
> > document but I'm almost sure my sister said his name was Iziquiel
> > Ezequiel.
> > Thank you so much.
> >
> > Ann M. Gutierrez
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Esther Jordan
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> > Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 7:50:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
> > Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco
> >
> > Ann, do you have the image number, year, and place so that we can help
> > you? I think you will find several ways of writing his name. I look at
> > his siblings to see what spelling is used for their father/mother and I
> > choose by majority rule? Also in marriage records the name may vary as
> > well. I choose the name I like but I also keep the name on the record
> for
> > verification. That is just me. I'm sure others have better ideas.
> > -Esther
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:33 PM, wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to get more info on my grandfather--for one what is the
> > > correct spelling of his first name. It is difficult to read his name
> on
> > > the first document I found. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > >
> > > To post, send email to:
> > > research(at)NuestrosRanchos.**com
> > >
> > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
> > >
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
> >

Armando, I see from the tone of your message that I've upset you.  I did not say
you gave me the wrong name I distinctly said my cousins gave me the wrong
names.  I made a wrong assumption in requesting assistance, I promise you it
won't happen again.

 Ann M. Gutierrez

________________________________
From: Armando
To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Sun, August 26, 2012 9:50:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco

Who are you saying gave you the wrong name? The names are similar enough it
shouldn't have caused confusion. Over time you will see that you will have
to learn to not be so rigid because people that gave the names and the ones
that wrote them weren't so rigid in the pronunciation or the spelling.

There is no other way to look for the baptism or civil birth record other
than what Roy and I have given you. Not all of them can be found though and
you have to use what can be found.

Maria Teresa Gomez is definitely the right name for your grandmother. There
is no doubt. Her parents were Jesus Gomez and Porfiria Guerrero married 28
Nov 1883 in San Diego de Alejandría
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NZT5-XYD

Armando

On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Ann M. Gutierrez <
agutierrez07@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Armando, again thank you for your help and support on my searches.  I have
> accomplished so much thanks to you guys pointing me in the right
> direction.  I
> finally found my grandfather after hours of searching...the reason I could
> not
> find him---I was given the wrong name by my cousins.  His real name was:
> Jose
> Hexiguio  Gutierrez.  I don't know if it was that the priest did not know
> how to
> spell Exequio but that is the way it was entered and I guess that is how
> it will
> stay.  If you can point me in the right direction again...I can't find
> anything
> on my grandmother and I'll bet it is because I was  given the wrong name
> again.
> Where else can I search to find her?  What I have is:
> Maria Teresa Gomez,  I don't have a date of birth, I do imagine she was
> born in
> San Diego since all the others...aunts/uncles etc. all in San Diego.  Is
> there
> another way of searching.  Thank you.
>
>  Ann M. Gutierrez
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Armando
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 8:35:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
> Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco
>
> Esther needed more info than that. I go ahead and help the both of you.
>
> They were from San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco. Exiquio or Ezequiel
> Gutierrez, b. 1869; married Maria Teresa Gomez or Guerrero, b. 1871 were
> married around 1886?  Children of that marriage were: Ricardo b.1903; 2)
> Franciso, b. 1907; 3) Jose, b. 1909; 4) Maria Socorro, b 12 July 1912.
>
> The document Ann is referring to is at
>
>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21318-9610-43?cc=1918187&wc=12863898
>8
>
>
> You should do what Esther suggested and find the civil and church records
> of the siblings of Socorro at
>
>
>https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21318-9610-43?cc=1918187&wc=12863898#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F12857217%3Fcc%3D1918187
>7
>
>
> and at
>
>
>https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F12503277%3Fcc%3D1874591
>1
>
>
>
> Saludos,
> Armando
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Ann M. Gutierrez <
> agutierrez07@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > Yes Esther,  it is Image # 657 of 894.  The name appears as Theserquio on
> > the
> > document but I'm almost sure my sister said his name was Iziquiel
> > Ezequiel.
> > Thank you so much.
> >
> >  Ann M. Gutierrez
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Esther Jordan
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> > Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 7:50:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
> > Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco
> >
> > Ann, do you have the image number, year, and place so that we can help
> > you?  I think you will find several ways of writing his name.  I look at
> > his siblings to see what spelling is used for their father/mother and I
> > choose by majority rule?  Also in marriage records the name may vary as
> > well.  I choose the name I like but I also keep the name on the record
> for
> > verification.  That is just me.  I'm sure others have better ideas.
> > -Esther
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:33 PM, wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to get more info on my grandfather--for one what is the
> > > correct spelling of his first name.  It is difficult to read his name
> on
> > > the first document I found.  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> > >
> > > To post, send email to:
> > > research(at)NuestrosRanchos.**com
> > >
> > > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > > http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
> > >
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
> >
> > To post, send email to:
> > research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
> >
> > To change your subscription, log on to:
> > http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
> >

No, I wasn't upset in any way. I was simply stating facts. Yes, I do see
after all that you said it was your cousins that gave you the wrong name.
My mistake in overlooking that. However, that doesn't change that the name
was similar enough that it should not have caused confusion. Feel free to
continue asking for help.

Armando

On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Ann M. Gutierrez <
agutierrez07@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>
> Armando, I see from the tone of your message that I've upset you. I did
> not say
> you gave me the wrong name I distinctly said my cousins gave me the wrong
> names. I made a wrong assumption in requesting assistance, I promise you
> it
> won't happen again.
>
> Ann M. Gutierrez
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Armando
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Sent: Sun, August 26, 2012 9:50:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
> Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco
>
> Who are you saying gave you the wrong name? The names are similar enough it
> shouldn't have caused confusion. Over time you will see that you will have
> to learn to not be so rigid because people that gave the names and the ones
> that wrote them weren't so rigid in the pronunciation or the spelling.
>
> There is no other way to look for the baptism or civil birth record other
> than what Roy and I have given you. Not all of them can be found though and
> you have to use what can be found.
>
> Maria Teresa Gomez is definitely the right name for your grandmother. There
> is no doubt. Her parents were Jesus Gomez and Porfiria Guerrero married 28
> Nov 1883 in San Diego de Alejandría
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NZT5-XYD
>
>
>
> Armando
>
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Ann M. Gutierrez <
> agutierrez07@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > Armando, again thank you for your help and support on my searches. I
> have
> > accomplished so much thanks to you guys pointing me in the right
> > direction. I
> > finally found my grandfather after hours of searching...the reason I
> could
> > not
> > find him---I was given the wrong name by my cousins. His real name was:
> > Jose
> > Hexiguio Gutierrez. I don't know if it was that the priest did not know
> > how to
> > spell Exequio but that is the way it was entered and I guess that is how
> > it will
> > stay. If you can point me in the right direction again...I can't find
> > anything
> > on my grandmother and I'll bet it is because I was given the wrong name
> > again.
> > Where else can I search to find her? What I have is:
> > Maria Teresa Gomez, I don't have a date of birth, I do imagine she was
> > born in
> > San Diego since all the others...aunts/uncles etc. all in San Diego. Is
> > there
> > another way of searching. Thank you.
> >
> > Ann M. Gutierrez
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Armando
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> > Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 8:35:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
> > Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco
> >
> > Esther needed more info than that. I go ahead and help the both of you.
> >
> > They were from San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco. Exiquio or Ezequiel
> > Gutierrez, b. 1869; married Maria Teresa Gomez or Guerrero, b. 1871 were
> > married around 1886? Children of that marriage were: Ricardo b.1903; 2)
> > Franciso, b. 1907; 3) Jose, b. 1909; 4) Maria Socorro, b 12 July 1912.
> >
> > The document Ann is referring to is at
> >
> >
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21318-9610-43?cc=1918187&wc=12863898
> >8
> >
> >
> > You should do what Esther suggested and find the civil and church records
> > of the siblings of Socorro at
> >
> >
> >
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21318-9610-43?cc=1918187&wc=12863898#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F12857217%3Fcc%3D1918187
> >7
> >
> >
> > and at
> >
> >
> >
> https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F12503277%3Fcc%3D1874591
> >1
> >
> >
> >
> > Saludos,
> > Armando
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Ann M. Gutierrez <
> > agutierrez07@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes Esther, it is Image # 657 of 894. The name appears as Theserquio
> on
> > > the
> > > document but I'm almost sure my sister said his name was Iziquiel
> > > Ezequiel.
> > > Thank you so much.
> > >
> > > Ann M. Gutierrez
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Esther Jordan
> > > To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> > > Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 7:50:33 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or
> Izequiel
> > > Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco
> > >
> > > Ann, do you have the image number, year, and place so that we can help
> > > you? I think you will find several ways of writing his name. I look
> at
> > > his siblings to see what spelling is used for their father/mother and I
> > > choose by majority rule? Also in marriage records the name may vary as
> > > well. I choose the name I like but I also keep the name on the record
> > for
> > > verification. That is just me. I'm sure others have better ideas.
> > > -Esther
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:33 PM, wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would like to get more info on my grandfather--for one what is the
> > > > correct spelling of his first name. It is difficult to read his name
> > on
> > > > the first document I found. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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> > > >
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> > > > research(at)NuestrosRanchos.**com
> > > >
> > > > To change your subscription, log on to:
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> > > >
> > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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What Armando was stating was that in our research into our ancestors we may find the same person with numerous different spellings and or different pronunciations. Or different variations such as Dorothea and Theodora
Rick A Ricci

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On Aug 26, 2012, at 9:01 PM, "Ann M. Gutierrez" wrote:

>
>
> Armando, I see from the tone of your message that I've upset you. I did not say
> you gave me the wrong name I distinctly said my cousins gave me the wrong
> names. I made a wrong assumption in requesting assistance, I promise you it
> won't happen again.
>
> Ann M. Gutierrez
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Armando
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Sent: Sun, August 26, 2012 9:50:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
> Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco
>
> Who are you saying gave you the wrong name? The names are similar enough it
> shouldn't have caused confusion. Over time you will see that you will have
> to learn to not be so rigid because people that gave the names and the ones
> that wrote them weren't so rigid in the pronunciation or the spelling.
>
> There is no other way to look for the baptism or civil birth record other
> than what Roy and I have given you. Not all of them can be found though and
> you have to use what can be found.
>
> Maria Teresa Gomez is definitely the right name for your grandmother. There
> is no doubt. Her parents were Jesus Gomez and Porfiria Guerrero married 28
> Nov 1883 in San Diego de Alejandría
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NZT5-XYD
>
>
>
> Armando
>
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Ann M. Gutierrez <
> agutierrez07@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Armando, again thank you for your help and support on my searches. I have
>> accomplished so much thanks to you guys pointing me in the right
>> direction. I
>> finally found my grandfather after hours of searching...the reason I could
>> not
>> find him---I was given the wrong name by my cousins. His real name was:
>> Jose
>> Hexiguio Gutierrez. I don't know if it was that the priest did not know
>> how to
>> spell Exequio but that is the way it was entered and I guess that is how
>> it will
>> stay. If you can point me in the right direction again...I can't find
>> anything
>> on my grandmother and I'll bet it is because I was given the wrong name
>> again.
>> Where else can I search to find her? What I have is:
>> Maria Teresa Gomez, I don't have a date of birth, I do imagine she was
>> born in
>> San Diego since all the others...aunts/uncles etc. all in San Diego. Is
>> there
>> another way of searching. Thank you.
>>
>> Ann M. Gutierrez
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Armando
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
>> Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 8:35:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
>> Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco
>>
>> Esther needed more info than that. I go ahead and help the both of you.
>>
>> They were from San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco. Exiquio or Ezequiel
>> Gutierrez, b. 1869; married Maria Teresa Gomez or Guerrero, b. 1871 were
>> married around 1886? Children of that marriage were: Ricardo b.1903; 2)
>> Franciso, b. 1907; 3) Jose, b. 1909; 4) Maria Socorro, b 12 July 1912.
>>
>> The document Ann is referring to is at
>>
>> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21318-9610-43?cc=1918187&wc=12863898
>> 8
>>
>>
>> You should do what Esther suggested and find the civil and church records
>> of the siblings of Socorro at
>>
>>
>> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21318-9610-43?cc=1918187&wc=12863898#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F12857217%3Fcc%3D1918187
>> 7
>>
>>
>> and at
>>
>>
>> https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F12503277%3Fcc%3D1874591
>> 1
>>
>>
>>
>> Saludos,
>> Armando
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Ann M. Gutierrez <
>> agutierrez07@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes Esther, it is Image # 657 of 894. The name appears as Theserquio on
>>> the
>>> document but I'm almost sure my sister said his name was Iziquiel
>>> Ezequiel.
>>> Thank you so much.
>>>
>>> Ann M. Gutierrez
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Esther Jordan
>>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
>>> Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 7:50:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Grandparets: Theserquio (sp?) or Izequiel
>>> Gutierrez, San Diego de Alejandria, jalisco
>>>
>>> Ann, do you have the image number, year, and place so that we can help
>>> you? I think you will find several ways of writing his name. I look at
>>> his siblings to see what spelling is used for their father/mother and I
>>> choose by majority rule? Also in marriage records the name may vary as
>>> well. I choose the name I like but I also keep the name on the record
>> for
>>> verification. That is just me. I'm sure others have better ideas.
>>> -Esther
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:33 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like to get more info on my grandfather--for one what is the
>>>> correct spelling of his first name. It is difficult to read his name
>> on
>>>> the first document I found. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>>
>>>> To post, send email to:
>>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.**com
>>>>
>>>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>>>> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>
>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>
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>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>
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>>> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
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