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By gpf13 - Posted on 05 February 2012

Tomas de Villalpando and Michaela Romo de Vivar had several children, most likely born in Rincon de Romos, which included Juan Villalpando. I have not found their marriage record.

Juan Villalpando married Refugio Gonzales, and had Bacilio, among others in the early 1800s. Tomas and Michaela are named in the baptismal records.

Bacilio Villalpando married Tomasa Martinez and Maria Librada Mendosa, and had children by both wives in the 1840-60 period. Juan and Refugio are named as grandparents in the baptismal records.

My question: who were the parents of Tomas de Villalpando and Michaela Romo de Vivar?

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Michaela Romo de Vivar is the daughter of Jose Romo de Vivar, according to the dispensation of her son, Jose Lucas Villalpando, for his marriage to Gertrudis Romo de Vivar (the granddaughter this Jose Romo de Vivar). Jose's wife is not named.

I found this thanks to the work of Claudia Reynoso & her colleagues in the index of the Sagrada Mitra that they are compiling.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

George, for Thomas Villalpando's marriage to Michaela Romo de Vibar see Aguascalientes, Asientos, Sra de Belen Mat 1767-1780, Image 25.

Don Thomas Ferrer de Villalpando, hijo lex de Don Francisco Antonio Villalpando y doña Petra de la Candelaria Luebana, difuntos by the date of this marriage, 12 Sep 1768.

Doña Maria Michaela Romo de Vibar, hija lex de Don Joseph Romo de Vibar y Doña Maria Martines de Zotomayor.

Gloria Delgado

Thank you very much!

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

George,

Maria Micaela Romo de Vivar was buried 27 Mar 1815 in Rincon de Romos. Her burial record indicates that she was the daughter of José Romo de Vivar and María Martínez de Sotomayor [Libro 1 de Entierros, foja 18b] [Defunciones, 1811-1831 San José de Gracia, Rincón de Romos, Aguascalientes Image 15 / 63]

Al margen: "Rincon Da. Maria Micaela Romo de Vivar Española Adulta"

"En la Capilla del Rincón en veinte y siete de marzo de mil ochocientos y quince Yo el Br. Don Gordiano Alonzo como Ministro de ella y de licencia Parrochi di Sepultura Eclesiastica, adentro con Entierro humilde a Da. María Micaela Romo de Vivar, Española, de edad sesenta y dos años, casada que fue con D. Tomás Villalpando - hija legítima de D. José Romo de Vivar, y de Da. María Martínez de Sotomayor - murió de Hidropesia en esta hacienda - recibió los Sacramentos y para que conste lo firmamos. [ firma ] Joseph Eufrasio Carrillo [ firma ] Gordiano Alonzo de Hinojos

The parents of Thomas de Villalpando were Francisco Antonio de Villalpando and Petrona de la Candelaria Luévana Contreras.

BILL FIGUEROA

Bill

Thank you very much!

With your help, as well as Gloria Delgado's earlier response, I have added much to this family.

I have made some very substantial progress on identifying many of the descendants of Tomas de Villalpando of Leon, GTO and Aguascalients, AGS.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

I do not know if these are the same people but I have jose andres Romo de vivar married to MA. Margarita Martines de Soto. They were married on 7 Mar 1734. Jose andres is the son of Nicolas Romo de vivar and Mariana Villalobos Macias y Carillo de Sandi. If these are the same people let me know and I will provide the rest of their ancestors that I have in my records
Rick A Ricci
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VIBAR

George, for Thomas Villalpando's marriage to Michaela Romo de Vibar see Aguascalientes, Asientos, Sra de Belen Mat 1767-1780, Image 25.

Don Thomas Ferrer de Villalpando, hijo lex de Don Francisco Antonio Villalpando y doña Petra de la Candelaria Luebana, difuntos by the date of this marriage, 12 Sep 1768.

Doña Maria Michaela Romo de Vibar, hija lex de Don Joseph Romo de Vibar y Doña Maria Martines de Zotomayor.

Gloria Delgado

There is an Antonio Dionicio Villalpando Married to Barbara Gertrudis Romo de Vivar. Antonio is a brother to Tomas and it looks like Maria Micaela may be the sister of Barbara. M11Oct1752 Aguascalientes. It would be another case of brothers Marrying Sisters.
Rick A Ricci
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I do not know if these are the same people but I have jose andres Romo de vivar married to MA. Margarita Martines de Soto. They were married on 7 Mar 1734. Jose andres is the son of Nicolas Romo de vivar and Mariana Villalobos Macias y Carillo de Sandi. If these are the same people let me know and I will provide the rest of their ancestors that I have in my records
Rick A Ricci
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-----Original Message-----
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Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 19:41:49
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas VILLALPANDO and Maria Michaela ROMO DE
VIBAR

George, for Thomas Villalpando's marriage to Michaela Romo de Vibar see Aguascalientes, Asientos, Sra de Belen Mat 1767-1780, Image 25.

Don Thomas Ferrer de Villalpando, hijo lex de Don Francisco Antonio Villalpando y doña Petra de la Candelaria Luebana, difuntos by the date of this marriage, 12 Sep 1768.

Doña Maria Michaela Romo de Vibar, hija lex de Don Joseph Romo de Vibar y Doña Maria Martines de Zotomayor.

Gloria Delgado

I forgot to add that Francisco is the son of another Tomas de ViLlalpando and Maria Sotelo. Felipe Luevano and Leonor Contreras are the parents of Petrona de la Candelaria. Francisco M. 8jul1729 Aguas.
Rick A Ricci
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ROMO DE VIBAR

There is an Antonio Dionicio Villalpando Married to Barbara Gertrudis Romo de Vivar. Antonio is a brother to Tomas and it looks like Maria Micaela may be the sister of Barbara. M11Oct1752 Aguascalientes. It would be another case of brothers Marrying Sisters.
Rick A Ricci
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: mygenes2000@yahoo.com
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 07:12:30
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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas VILLALPANDO and Maria Michaela ROMO
DE VIBAR

I do not know if these are the same people but I have jose andres Romo de vivar married to MA. Margarita Martines de Soto. They were married on 7 Mar 1734. Jose andres is the son of Nicolas Romo de vivar and Mariana Villalobos Macias y Carillo de Sandi. If these are the same people let me know and I will provide the rest of their ancestors that I have in my records
Rick A Ricci
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: gloriad@jps.net
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Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 19:41:49
To:
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas VILLALPANDO and Maria Michaela ROMO DE
VIBAR

George, for Thomas Villalpando's marriage to Michaela Romo de Vibar see Aguascalientes, Asientos, Sra de Belen Mat 1767-1780, Image 25.

Don Thomas Ferrer de Villalpando, hijo lex de Don Francisco Antonio Villalpando y doña Petra de la Candelaria Luebana, difuntos by the date of this marriage, 12 Sep 1768.

Doña Maria Michaela Romo de Vibar, hija lex de Don Joseph Romo de Vibar y Doña Maria Martines de Zotomayor.

Gloria Delgado

Rick,

There was a thread a while back that said that José Andrés Romo de Vivar
was the son of Nicolás Romo de Vivar and grandson of Pedro Romo de Vivar
and Lorenza de Tiscareño (alias Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza).
http://www.nuestrosranchos.com/en/node/17268 This Nicolás married María de
Villalobos the daughter of my ancestors Salvador de Villalobos Macías
Valadez and Francisca Martín del Campo y López de la Cruz, on 12 February
1684 in Aguascalientes. She was also known as María López de la Cruz which
was also the name of her maternal grandmother. Mariana Villalobos was the
daughter of Nicolás de Villalobos Macías Valadez and Teresa Carrillo de
Sandi and she married Nicolás Romo de Vivar the son of Diego Romo de Vivar
and Luisa de los Angeles on 14 January 1686 in Teocaltiche. The two
families of Nicolas Romo de Vivar and Maria de Villalobos and the Nicolas
Romo de Vivar and Mariana Villalobos was explained by Bill Figueroa in the
same thread I mentioned previously. In another thread I mentioned the proof
that Salvador de Villalobos Macías Valadez is the son of Tomás de
Villalobos y Pérez de Nava and Catarina Macías Valadez y Villegas. I later
found out part of the proof is also mentioned in the Villalobos Family
Group sheet submitted by Jaime Holcombe Isunza Batch F868339 source call
1396258

Saludos
Armando

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 1:12 AM, wrote:

> I do not know if these are the same people but I have jose andres Romo de
> vivar married to MA. Margarita Martines de Soto. They were married on 7
> Mar 1734. Jose andres is the son of Nicolas Romo de vivar and Mariana
> Villalobos Macias y Carillo de Sandi. If these are the same people let me
> know and I will provide the rest of their ancestors that I have in my
> records
> Rick A Ricci
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gloriad@jps.net
> Sender: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 19:41:49
> To:
> Reply-To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas VILLALPANDO and Maria Michaela ROMO DE
> VIBAR
>
> George, for Thomas Villalpando's marriage to Michaela Romo de Vibar see
> Aguascalientes, Asientos, Sra de Belen Mat 1767-1780, Image 25.
>
> Don Thomas Ferrer de Villalpando, hijo lex de Don Francisco Antonio
> Villalpando y doña Petra de la Candelaria Luebana, difuntos by the date of
> this marriage, 12 Sep 1768.
>
> Doña Maria Michaela Romo de Vibar, hija lex de Don Joseph Romo de Vibar y
> Doña Maria Martines de Zotomayor.
>
> Gloria Delgado
>
>

I have Luisa as Luisa de los Reyes y Angeles.
Thanks, Rick
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-----Original Message-----
From: Armando
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:30:02
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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas VILLALPANDO and Maria Michaela ROMO
DE VIBAR

Rick,

There was a thread a while back that said that José Andrés Romo de Vivar
was the son of Nicolás Romo de Vivar and grandson of Pedro Romo de Vivar
and Lorenza de Tiscareño (alias Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza).
http://www.nuestrosranchos.com/en/node/17268 This Nicolás married María de
Villalobos the daughter of my ancestors Salvador de Villalobos Macías
Valadez and Francisca Martín del Campo y López de la Cruz, on 12 February
1684 in Aguascalientes. She was also known as María López de la Cruz which
was also the name of her maternal grandmother. Mariana Villalobos was the
daughter of Nicolás de Villalobos Macías Valadez and Teresa Carrillo de
Sandi and she married Nicolás Romo de Vivar the son of Diego Romo de Vivar
and Luisa de los Angeles on 14 January 1686 in Teocaltiche. The two
families of Nicolas Romo de Vivar and Maria de Villalobos and the Nicolas
Romo de Vivar and Mariana Villalobos was explained by Bill Figueroa in the
same thread I mentioned previously. In another thread I mentioned the proof
that Salvador de Villalobos Macías Valadez is the son of Tomás de
Villalobos y Pérez de Nava and Catarina Macías Valadez y Villegas. I later
found out part of the proof is also mentioned in the Villalobos Family
Group sheet submitted by Jaime Holcombe Isunza Batch F868339 source call
1396258

Saludos
Armando

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 1:12 AM, wrote:

> I do not know if these are the same people but I have jose andres Romo de
> vivar married to MA. Margarita Martines de Soto. They were married on 7
> Mar 1734. Jose andres is the son of Nicolas Romo de vivar and Mariana
> Villalobos Macias y Carillo de Sandi. If these are the same people let me
> know and I will provide the rest of their ancestors that I have in my
> records
> Rick A Ricci
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gloriad@jps.net
> Sender: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 19:41:49
> To:
> Reply-To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thomas VILLALPANDO and Maria Michaela ROMO DE
> VIBAR
>
> George, for Thomas Villalpando's marriage to Michaela Romo de Vibar see
> Aguascalientes, Asientos, Sra de Belen Mat 1767-1780, Image 25.
>
> Don Thomas Ferrer de Villalpando, hijo lex de Don Francisco Antonio
> Villalpando y doña Petra de la Candelaria Luebana, difuntos by the date of
> this marriage, 12 Sep 1768.
>
> Doña Maria Michaela Romo de Vibar, hija lex de Don Joseph Romo de Vibar y
> Doña Maria Martines de Zotomayor.
>
> Gloria Delgado
>
>

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