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By abram101 - Posted on 10 January 2012

Iv'e been trying to read this document for the past 2 hours and only found 10 words with help of my mom.So it would be awesome if some one can please translate this document for.

Document 363 page 322 LA Jabonera Felipe Armas Leonarda Lozano
link:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15697-37801-59?cc=1410092&wc=6835681

Abram Flores
thank you

Abram Flores
wait so who marry who and and whose the father and the mother of the children.im pretty sure i can figure all of this out my but i have been very busy with school homework and that is the reason why i ask so many questions.So thanks to every one who has helped so far

TRONCO
Joseph María Pérez Sotelo y María García = They married each other.

Ignacio Pérez........1........Ma. Deseana Pérez = They are their children, so they are brother and sister. Each one married to someone else not shown here.

Ma. Refugio Pérez......2......Ma. Sebastiana Yáñez = Both female, they are cousins and their granddaughters. Each one married to someone else not shown here.

Antonio Armas........3.........Ma. Luisa Durán = They are second cousins and their great-grandchildren. Each one married to someone else not shown here.

Felipe Armas........4.........Leonarda Lozano = They are third cousins, their gg-grandchildren, and they married each other.

Joseph María and María García are the parents of Ignacio, who is the father of Refugio, who is the mother of Antonio, who is the father of Felipe (all the names in the left column)

Joseph María and María García are also the parents of Deseana, who is the mother of Sebastiana, who is the mother of Ma. Luisa, who is the mother of Leonarda (all the names in the right column).

Feipe and Leonarda are third cousins and got married.
;)
Victoriano Navarro

The two names are Juarez (you can expect to find also spelled at Juares, and sometimes in very old records as Xuares), and Serbulo. I had not seen this other name before, so the combination of hard-to-read handwriting and an unusual name caused the confusion. In Victoriano's first transcription of the document, he was unsure of the name, which he noted with the question marks.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Abram,

If you don't have genealogy software, you need to get it because that's the best method of placing every family member in their respective place, otherwise they are just names.

You can download free PAF software from the familysearch website. It will make a big difference in understanding who is married to whom and which generation each person belongs to.

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

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Abram Flores
wait so who marry who and and whose the father and the mother of the children.im pretty sure i can figure all of this out my but i have been very busy with school homework and that is the reason why i ask so many questions.So thanks to every one who has helped so far

PAF is really easy to use, and I recommend it.

You can also get a program to go with it called PAF Companion, that prints very nice reports and charts (including in color). You have to buy this one, but it is only about $10.00, and well worth the money. The reports it generates are best when you have Microsoft Word, but it works with other word processors as well.

Both of these have been around for a long time, but they both run on Windows Vista without any problems(I would expect they also are ok with Windows 7).

There is a very old Macintosh version, but it may not run on the current Mac operating system. By comparison with the Windows version, it is not very good.

There is other software, as well. Some not expensive (perhaps $40-50); others cost much more. For the price, PAF and PAF Companion are tough to beat!

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

By the way, TRONCO means TRUNK, as in a Tree Trunk. It just means they are showing a trunk or a branch of a Family Tree. You may just ignore the word.
Victoriano Navarro

Abram Flores
well for right now i am using ancestry.com which one is better

Abram Flores
can you give me the link to where you got this info please.?

Abram------Be careful with Ancestry.com's system. Make your tree Private as soon as possible, otherwise their trolling robot software (Family Tree) will allow people to pull over information you have put in by putting it on their "shaking leaves". Those shaking leaves are supposed to only be "hints" that other peoples' ancestors might be related, but usually only the name is the same but the location and date are way off. Always check things out first with Family Search.

When you make your tree Private, people will be forced to contact you via the Ancestry system to discuss your information instead of just assuming you are related because of a common name.

I assume you signed up for a subscription to Ancestry.com? And then started a tree there that way?

I think it is better to have a genealogy program like PAF in your computer. They all work the way the Ancestry.com system works, but people can't take your information. Once you have developed a tree on the software in your computer you can upload it to Ancestry, but remember to make it Private.

I once had Family Tree in my computer, but it automatically linked to their trolling robot and started to give me "hints" I didn't need because they were so inaccurate.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
> From: aflore2855@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:28:44 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Genealogy Software
>
> Abram Flores
> well for right now i am using ancestry.com which one is better

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