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By 1traviesa - Posted on 29 August 2011

I found 2 more that I would kindly like some feedback on...some of the words just arent clear to me...thank you!!

First doc citation at the top of the page..

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c302/1traviesa/marriageunabletoread1page.jpg

Second doc citation at the bottom of the page...

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c302/1traviesa/UrsuladeolaesmarriagetoJosephdeUlloa16601page.jpg

does anyone know what it means when they put "viuda" before a persons name??

Sorry guys...these are also from Leon, Guanajuato, Iglesia Sagrario matrimonios, around 1662 and 1674. Trying to see If i can find something where they migrated to Jerez..

Thank you again

Amalia Hernandez Arias

Nancy Blanche Perez

Viuda means widow, also abbreviated as vd.

Amalia

Could you give a full reference, including image number?

Thank you.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

It's too bad this isn't in a better format. Some names might be easier to
read if it were. Jpg isn't meant for documents.

What I could make out of the first is the following -

(torn) ? Juo [Juan] de villalpando y franca [francisca] (torn)
? ya difuntos con ursula de olaes(torn)
de ? de olaes y isabel ? ; fueon (torn)
drinos [padrinos] el alcalde nicolas de villalpando (torn)
de vielma. y por verdad lo firne en dicho dia
mes y año.

I can't make out the first name of the father of ursula de olae, or the last
name of the mother but it looks like Cos.

It looks like a lot of people need to correct their family tree to show that
Juan de Villalpando Olaes is from León, Guanajuato.

The second document

En veinte y seis dias del Mes de julio de mil (torn)
sientos Y setenta Y quatro en esta iglecia Barro(torn)
de Leon case con lisencia del ? Cura > Don Josep(torn)
de Ulloa con Ursula de Olais viuda de Juan de Vill(torn)
se les dijo missa Y se hisierion las diligencias ?(torn)
manda el Santo Consilio fue su padrindo Antto de herr(torn)
y Doña Maria de herrera -

Viuda means widow and it is after the name of Ursula de Olais [Olaes] saying
she is the widow of Juan de Villalpando. Obviously she remarried with Joseph
de Ulloa

Saludos,
Armando

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:20 PM, wrote:

> I found 2 more that I would kindly like some feedback on...some of the
> words just arent clear to me...thank you!!
>
> First doc citation at the top of the page..
>
> http://i30.photobucket.com/**albums/c302/1traviesa/**
> marriageunabletoread1page.jpg
>
> Second doc citation at the bottom of the page...
>
> http://i30.photobucket.com/**albums/c302/1traviesa/**
> UrsuladeolaesmarriagetoJosephd**eUlloa16601page.jpg
>
> does anyone know what it means when they put "viuda" before a persons
> name?? -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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Its Leon Guanajuato Sagrario 1672. Page 9 on familysearch.org Matrimonios..
Amalia Hernandez Arias

I think the first one is started on another page but the book is out of order and really damaged so I don't know which Villalpando Ursula is marrying. Her parents are Martin de Olaes and Isabel Cortes. I'm searching for her birth record to see if she is Maria Ursula because Maria is on my Juan Villalpando record. And possibly if her son Juan migrated to Jerez. I found another VillAlpando that married a Francisca but her last name is Olaes too. So I'm fully confused. Lol. Who was looking for a Marcos that father is Tomas...I found Marcos birth record in Leon.
malia Hernandez Arias

The address of the website, URL, of each document at FamilySearch can be
copied and pasted into the the messages. Each page has it's own specific
address. It's makes it much easier for those that want to help.

Armando

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:57 PM, wrote:

> Its Leon Guanajuato Sagrario 1672. Page 9 on familysearch.orgMatrimonios..
> Amalia Hernandez Arias
>

Ohh yeah.. gotcha.. that was right under my nose.. thank you!! This is the important one..

https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-20123-20733-8?cc=1860831&wc=11690523

Amalia Hernandez Arias

There are a lot of websites, including a post by Emilie Garcia, that mention
a son of Juan de Villalpando and Ursula Olaes also named Juan de Villalpando
that was a native of la villa de leon, and a soldier of Santa Fe, [New
Mexico] when he married Ana Maria Romero, June 2, 1694.

Since both the name Ursula and the surname Olaes aren't the most common I am
going to assume that she is the same one in the document you provided. Since
the above info also states he was from León, again I am going to make the
assumption that it is the same Ursula de Olaes. Therefore, the groom most
likely is Juan de Villalpando that Ursula de Olaes is marrying.

Armando

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:05 PM, wrote:

> I think the first one is started on another page but the book is out of
> order and really damaged so I don't know which Villalpando Ursula is
> marrying. Her parents are Martin de Olaes and Isabel Cortes. I'm searching
> for her birth record to see if she is Maria Ursula because Maria is on my
> Juan Villalpando record. And possibly if her son Juan migrated to Jerez. I
> found another VillAlpando that married a Francisca but her last name is
> Olaes too. So I'm fully confused. Lol. Who was looking for a Marcos that
> father is Tomas...I found Marcos birth record in Leon. malia Hernandez Arias
>

Amalia

Thank you!

One of the advantages of having the full citation is that a larger image can be saved. From the Family Search page, the image is about 2.4M, which is considerably larger than the one you had posted. This image can then be made much larger, and easier to read.

The software I use for viewing/printing images is Picassa 3. This software is free from the Picassa website.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

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