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By 1traviesa - Posted on 10 August 2011

Hello i would like to get started on the Arias line but only have documents that state Pedro Arias and Esteban Arias were from Jalisco. Any suggestions on where I would start??

Amalia Hernandez Arias

Hi Amalia,

My wife is an Arias and her father is from Apulco, Jalisco. You may want to
look into this small town. I'm sure there are Arias in other parts of Jalisco,
but this may be a starting point.

Saludos,

Juan Aguayo Munoz

------ Original Message ------
Received: 12:21 PM PDT, 08/10/2011
From: hernandezmol@msn.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Where to start...Arias

Hello i would like to get started on the Arias line but only have documents
that state Pedro Arias and Esteban Arias were from Jalisco. Any suggestions
on where I would start??

Amalia Hernandez Arias

When I was working on records from Tamazula Jalisco I found Arias sometimes mixed with Balovinos, also noticed they appeared to come from Michoacan.. Daniel.. did you find Arias also?
Linda in B.C.

From: Juan Aguayo
To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Where to start...Arias

Hi Amalia,

My wife is an Arias and her father is from Apulco, Jalisco. You may want to
look into this small town. I'm sure there are Arias in other parts of Jalisco,
but this may be a starting point.

Saludos,

Juan Aguayo Munoz

------ Original Message ------
Received: 12:21 PM PDT, 08/10/2011
From: hernandezmol@msn.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Where to start...Arias

Hello i would like to get started on the Arias line but only have documents
that state Pedro Arias and Esteban Arias were from Jalisco.  Any suggestions
on where I would start??

Amalia Hernandez Arias

Amalia

Without more specific information, it is difficult to provide good guidance.

Some suggestions:

(1) Were they US residents or citizens and did they have social security numbers? If so, and are deceased, you can get copies of the social security card applications; these documents may have the place of birth; although it might just be the country. The link to this is the social security death index (at Family Search and other sites). You will have to write to the Social Security Administration, and pay a fee.

(2) Border crossing records will sometimes have the place of birth. These are at Ancestry.com, and some at Family Search. Very rarely, these will have photos.

(3) Do any older family members have consular documents from the Mexican Consulates; these may have the place of birth (these were often used as identification). Sometimes these have photos attached.

(4) The 1930 Mexican Census may be helpful.

(5) The US Censuses will have dates of immigration, but not specific locations; they will only give the country. This is for 1930 and before (the 1940 census should be available starting in 2012). This can be a clue for when to look in border crossing records.

(6) If they are deceased and died in the US, you can get the death certificates. These may have the town of birth, but may only say "Mexico." In California death certificates are about $15, others states will differ.

(7) Check the indexes at Family Search; however, the Mexican extractions generally stopped in the 1870/80 time period, but some are later.

(8) If they were born in Mexico, and later became citizens, the naturalization papers may have place of birth. Some of these, but not a lot, are online. In some US states these are kept in the County Recorder's office, in others, in Federal offices. You would need to know where they got their citizenship.

Ryskamp's "Finding Your Mexican Ancestors" will give other suggestions. This is till in print, and not expensive.

Jalisco is a moderate sized state, some of the population statistics are:

1800 500,000 (est)
1850 770,000 (est)
1900 1,150,000
1930 1,260,000
2000 6,300,000

Looking in the Mexican church or civil records, with the limited information you provide, is likely to be frustrating. Talk with your older relatives, while they may not have the facts, they may have clues of where to look. Anything that will help focus the search will increase the chances of success.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Thank you all I have some starting point now.

Amalia Hernandez Arias

Oh I tried to get a copy of Esteban or Pedros birth records but you have to be a Mexico citizen. They said I would have to get one of my family members to do it for me, for them to even search for it. Some States are diffrent than others. I had no problem getting what I needed from the State of San Luis Potosi where my Hernandez rooted...

Amalia Hernandez Arias

I got information off of his Social Security application that states he was born in "Lovavga, Jal, MX" I have tried several variants of the name and come up with no solid town name...any suggestions?

Amalia,

Do you have a date of birth on the Social Security application? did you look in family search? that's where i would go first

Danny C. Alonso

Reading Lovavga it sounds almost like "La barca", just an idea.

I agree with La Barca Jalisco being the best staring point. What other information is known about these people? What siblings, in laws, wives, any other thread that we can pull at? The arias in my family that I have studied are in tamazuela, Ayo el/Ayotlan Arandas Jalisco. Give us information to help you out in your search.

Rick Ricci

I agree with La Barca Jalisco being the best starting point. What other information is known about these people? What siblings, in laws, wives, or any other thread that we can pull at? The Arias in my family that I have studied are in Tamazuela, Ayo el Chico /Ayotlan Arandas Jalisco. Give us information to help you out in your search.

Rick Ricci

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