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By Rose Hardy - Posted on 27 June 2009

I have been doing genealogy for the past 18 years and never found the benefits of the Information Matrimonial records until last night. In the past I have ordered rolls and rolls of these films looking for missing links with no success. But last night I was helping my research colleague with a mystery in Aguascalientes. He had the date of his ancestors marriage, but the marriage document didn't provide much information....date, their names and witnesses only. So for the heck of it I went to the Information Matrimonial film for the year of the marriage. I looked for the month previous to the date of this couples marriage and lo and behold it was there along with the names of the couples parents (one line came from Sierra de Pinos).

So if you're looking for the marriage of Joseph Peres and Juliana Chabes in Aguascalientes for 3 Feb 1704, the Information Matrimonial was in January, I believe it was image 15.

I just thought I'd share this new find....not sure if you've had the same problem that I've had with these records...I had pretty much given up on them due to frustration and cost....but now I know how to use them.....go back 6-3 weeks before the couples marriage. I'm hoping Jalisco, Zacatecas and Sonora digitized records will be online soon.

Well, looks like I'll be doing some major hunting this week-end.

Rose Hardy
Fresno

The información matrimonial will always be prior to the date of
the marriage. After all of the requirements are met then the couple is
give permission to marry.
Often you will find that there is a marriage record both in the city were
the groom was from as well as the bride since they had to publish the
marriage in both places in the three festive consecutive days (at Mas). The
marriages normally took place in the city where the bride was from. The
record in the city where the groom was from is more like an informative
account of the marriage. Whereas the record at the brides parish is the
actual marriage. Like all things, this scenario will not always be the case.
So do not expect to always find documentation in both places.

Saludos desde Lago Salado,
Eduardo H Seoane

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 7:44 AM, wrote:

> I have been doing genealogy for the past 18 years and never found the
> benefits of the Information Matrimonial records until last night. In the
> past I have ordered rolls and rolls of these films looking for missing links
> with no success. But last night I was helping my research colleague with a
> mystery in Aguascalientes. He had the date of his ancestors marriage, but
> the marriage document didn't provide much information....date, their names
> and witnesses only. So for the heck of it I went to the Information
> Matrimonial film for the year of the marriage. I looked for the month
> previous to the date of this couples marriage and lo and behold it was there
> along with the names of the couples parents (one line came from Sierra de
> Pinos).
>
> So if you're looking for the marriage of Joseph Peres and Juliana Chabes in
> Aguascalientes for 3 Feb 1704, the Information Matrimonial was in January, I
> believe it was image 15.
>
> I just thought I'd share this new find....not sure if you've had the same
> problem that I've had with these records...I had pretty much given up on
> them due to frustration and cost....but now I know how to use them.....go
> back 6-3 weeks before the couples marriage. I'm hoping Jalisco, Zacatecas
> and Sonora digitized records will be online soon.
>
> Well, looks like I'll be doing some major hunting this week-end.
>
> Rose Hardy
> Fresno
>

As far as the digitizing of the records and putting them online, I doubt
that we will see any of those any time soon, FamilySearch seems to be
placing things online in an alphabetical manner. So good luck with
Zacatecas!

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Eduardo Seoane wrote:

> The información matrimonial will always be prior to the date of
> the marriage. After all of the requirements are met then the couple is
> give permission to marry.
> Often you will find that there is a marriage record both in the city were
> the groom was from as well as the bride since they had to publish the
> marriage in both places in the three festive consecutive days (at Mas). The
> marriages normally took place in the city where the bride was from. The
> record in the city where the groom was from is more like an informative
> account of the marriage. Whereas the record at the brides parish is the
> actual marriage. Like all things, this scenario will not always be the case.
> So do not expect to always find documentation in both places.
>
> Saludos desde Lago Salado,
> Eduardo H Seoane
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 7:44 AM, wrote:
>
>> I have been doing genealogy for the past 18 years and never found the
>> benefits of the Information Matrimonial records until last night. In the
>> past I have ordered rolls and rolls of these films looking for missing links
>> with no success. But last night I was helping my research colleague with a
>> mystery in Aguascalientes. He had the date of his ancestors marriage, but
>> the marriage document didn't provide much information....date, their names
>> and witnesses only. So for the heck of it I went to the Information
>> Matrimonial film for the year of the marriage. I looked for the month
>> previous to the date of this couples marriage and lo and behold it was there
>> along with the names of the couples parents (one line came from Sierra de
>> Pinos).
>>
>> So if you're looking for the marriage of Joseph Peres and Juliana Chabes
>> in Aguascalientes for 3 Feb 1704, the Information Matrimonial was in
>> January, I believe it was image 15.
>>
>> I just thought I'd share this new find....not sure if you've had the same
>> problem that I've had with these records...I had pretty much given up on
>> them due to frustration and cost....but now I know how to use them.....go
>> back 6-3 weeks before the couples marriage. I'm hoping Jalisco, Zacatecas
>> and Sonora digitized records will be online soon.
>>
>> Well, looks like I'll be doing some major hunting this week-end.
>>
>> Rose Hardy
>> Fresno
>>

Eduardo,

This is a totally different subject. I just started extracting records from the State of Mexico. I was doing 1930 Census Indexing and had no problem. With their new updates I am having a hard time with the extractions--not the language but the instructions. Can you help me with that? I have gone to the FHC in Mission Valley, several times but I guess I can only get help from the right person once a month (1st Wedesday of each month). The only other thing I can do is call SLC and hope they can help me. The last time I tried I ended up struggling until I figured it out on my own. There must be an easier way! Let me know if you can help. Thanks. -Esther Jordan (Lopez)esther@enhanced.org

As far as the digitizing of the records and putting them online, I doubt
that we will see any of those any time soon, FamilySearch seems to be
placing things online in an alphabetical manner. So good luck with
Zacatecas!

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Eduardo Seoane
wrote:

> The información matrimonial will always be prior to the date of
> the marriage. After all of the requirements are met then the couple is
> give permission to marry.
> Often you will find that there is a marriage record both in the city were
> the groom was from as well as the bride since they had to publish the
> marriage in both places in the three festive consecutive days (at Mas). The
> marriages normally took place in the city where the bride was from. The
> record in the city where the groom was from is more like an informative
> account of the marriage. Whereas the record at the brides parish is the
> actual marriage. Like all things, this scenario will not always be the case.
> So do not expect to always find documentation in both places.
>
> Saludos desde Lago Salado,
> Eduardo H Seoane
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 7:44 AM, wrote:
>
>> I have been doing genealogy for the past 18 years and never found the
>> benefits of the Information Matrimonial records until last night. In the
>> past I have ordered rolls and rolls of these films looking for missing
links
>> with no success. But last night I was helping my research colleague with a
>> mystery in Aguascalientes. He had the date of his ancestors marriage, but
>> the marriage document didn't provide much information....date, their names
>> and witnesses only. So for the heck of it I went to the Information
>> Matrimonial film for the year of the marriage. I looked for the month
>> previous to the date of this couples marriage and lo and behold it was
there
>> along with the names of the couples parents (one line came from Sierra de
>> Pinos).
>>
>> So if you're looking for the marriage of Joseph Peres and Juliana Chabes
>> in Aguascalientes for 3 Feb 1704, the Information Matrimonial was in
>> January, I believe it was image 15.
>>
>> I just thought I'd share this new find....not sure if you've had the same
>> problem that I've had with these records...I had pretty much given up on
>> them due to frustration and cost....but now I know how to use them.....go
>> back 6-3 weeks before the couples marriage. I'm hoping Jalisco, Zacatecas
>> and Sonora digitized records will be online soon.
>>
>> Well, looks like I'll be doing some major hunting this week-end.
>>
>> Rose Hardy
>> Fresno
>>

Thank you, Rose, for sharing your findings regarding marriage information. Where could I find it? is is available online like FHS? This is the first time I hear about these type of records. I am familiar with the term and process as it is used nowdays when a couple applies to be married in the Catholic church.

Gracias, Rose, for compartier tus resultados respecto a la informacion matrimonial. Donde podria encontrarla? Esta disponible en linea como FHS? Esta es la primera vez que oido de este tipo de registros. Estoy familiarizada con el termino y proceso de nuestra epoca cuando una pareja pide casarse en la iglesia Catolica.

Rosie Cordova

Rosie

Aguascalientes baptism, confirmation, death, marriage and marriage information records are online http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html. Click on the interactive map for Mexico and scroll all the way down to see what is digitized online. It has been great...it makes it difficult for me to do anything else around the house.

Happy Hunting!

Rose

I have also found these quite valuable. I have found information that is not in the actual marriage records; I have found matrimonial information for couples that I know have children, but cannot find the marriage records.

Searching for the documents can be a challenge. The earliest ones (1600's) are often not in chronological order, and in fact, different years may be mixed in.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Today I was looking through some from Mocorito, Sinaloa and they had the
Dispensas mixed in but not assigned to any particular informe matriomonial
or diligencia matrimonial if you prefer. Good stuff in there.
I sometimes use them to see if one of the witnesses is the individual I am
looking for since it will give the age, place of residence and sometimes
birth locality. It is one of a few ways to find out where individuals are
from if they are not being born in a particular place. Especially when there
is no marriage record, diligencia matrimonial, or abuelos mentioned in the
christenings to tell where the couple is from.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:51 PM, wrote:

> I have also found these quite valuable. I have found information that is
> not in the actual marriage records; I have found matrimonial information for
> couples that I know have children, but cannot find the marriage records.
>
> Searching for the documents can be a challenge. The earliest ones (1600's)
> are often not in chronological order, and in fact, different years may be
> mixed in.
> George Fulton
> Pleasanton, CA

I need to add to a comment I made earlier. The comment was "The información matrimonial will always be prior to the date of the marriage. After all of the requirements are met then the couple is give permission to marry." Although this in essence is true, occasionally additional information is found out and the marriage is suspended during the ensuing investigation. This could take place years after the permission to marry was given. Depending on the outcome of the investigation the marriage could be annulled or reinstated.

Saludos desde Lago Salado,
Eduardo H Seoane

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