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By acalleros - Posted on 23 April 2008

Hello, My name is America Quintero and I am looking into my fathers family
history. My father says my grandfather was born in Tuxpan Jalisco, he moved
to Monterrey, had a family there and then passed away. His name was
Salvador Quintero Del Rio. I am very interested in knowing my fathers
family history because of a family mystery. My grandfather and my
grandfathers mother both had tattoos of numbers on their arms. They did not
speak of them and hid them by always wearing long sleeves. I hope to find
what I am looking for. Tips and ideas are welcomed.

Thank you,
--
America Quintero Calleros

America:

Welcome to the group. I hope the people in the group can help guide your search for information on your father.

These tips are for all other newcomers who are just starting their research:

First of all there is almost NOTHING any of us can do without dates (even if they are approximate) and place names. You have given us a place name, but without knowing your father's approximate dates of birth, marriage, etc. we cannot tell you what sources would be appropriate, etc.

Also, you mention your grandmother but don't provide a name nor any dates. Please be more precise about the information that you DO have so that we can help you go from there. It would be helpful if you could post your known genealogy in a standard format in your file folder.

Thank you for the advice. I was told that my grandfather (Salvador Quintero
Del Rio) was born in the year 1900 in Tuxpan Jalisco. I am still trying to
find out the exact date of his birth and the names of his parents. I know
that at some point he married my grandmother in Monterrey, Nuevo Leon and
stayed there for the rest of his life. I am not sure if I believe he was
born in Mexico at all to be honest, mostly because of the tattoos he and his
mother carried on their arms. They never spoke of them and hid them, so my
father does not even know what the numbers are, or how many there were.
>From what I understand it was some sort of branding and I don't know much of
anything yet but that to me seemed as if they were in some sort of camp, I
don't think that camps like that existed in Mexico but I could be wrong.
His and her features were very European, according to my mother. I read
some where that there are many Jews in Mexico, especially in Nuevo Leon and
Jalisco, that I did not know and makes wonder if they may have been
imigrants? I don't know if that kind of record would exist or where to even
look for such a thing. I will post more information when I find it. Any
guidance on where to look/search is greatly appreciated. I am planning a
visit to a Latter Day Saints Family Center, even though nothing came up in
their online search.

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:35 PM, arturoramos
wrote:

>
> America:
>
> Welcome to the group. I hope the people in the group can help guide your
> search for information on your father.
>
> These tips are for all other newcomers who are just starting their
> research:
>
> First of all there is almost NOTHING any of us can do without dates (even
> if they are approximate) and place names. You have given us a place name,
> but without knowing your father's approximate dates of birth, marriage, etc.
> we cannot tell you what sources would be appropriate, etc.
>
> Also, you mention your grandmother but don't provide a name nor any dates.
> Please be more precise about the information that you DO have so that we
> can help you go from there. It would be helpful if you could post your
> known genealogy in a standard format in your file folder.

America:

Again, it would be very helpful if you could provide your grandmother's name as spouses names are important in identifying the correct person.

Now with an approximate birth date of 1900, I can tell you that your grandfather would not be listed in the LDS databases as they do not extract information from records past 1900 for privacy reasons... that is one of the reasons why dates, even if approximate are so important.

Give us some of his other life events... did your grandfather immigrate to the United States? If so, there will be a border crossing record for him.

If you have the approximate date of his marriage, you might be able to track down his marriage record (in civil or church records) which should give his parents' names.

The Jews in Monterrey are mostly old Sephardim Jewish converso families that immigrated there in the 1500s to escape the Inquisition in Spain. There is however, a decently sized Ashkenazi Jewish population in Mexico from around the time of World War II.

So far this is what I have got. (It would be nice to have a timeline app to document this sort of stuff)

1900 Salvador Quintero Del Rio was born in Tuxpan, Jalisco.
~1929 Salvador Married Paula Gamez Rodriguez in Monterrey, NL
1933 Salvador's first born, Salvador Jr., was born
1934 my Father was born in Monterrey, NL

Salvador's mother (Carlota Del Rio) was born in Jalisco and I'm guessing some where between 1870-1880. I am also guessing that she married her husband Mr. Quintero (first name unknown) around 1898-1899. We don't know if Salvador was an only child and we don't know what happened to his father. According to my father Salvador was very skilled in chemistry, metals and electrical systems of the time. The family also had a sugar processing mill in Jalisco that might have been called "Quintero Del Rio", before they moved to Monterrey. Salvador contributed much of his skill to the Fundidora in Monterrey, NL. I checked the LDS for marriages and births of Carlota Del Rio, and of most Quintero's and disappointingly nothing really came up. I did find a Salvador Del Rio that crossed the US border, it had a picture of a young man that I was able to clear up. I'll be showing it to my father. I don't think it was him but there was something about his ears that caught my attention.

I'm guessing at the dates considering that during that time people were probably married young (mid to late teens) and usually had children shortly afterwards.

America Calleros
Researching (Quintero Del Rio)

Most of the descendants of these old converso families in Monterrey and Nuevo Leon do not know of their heritage. Their heritage has only in recent years come to light with genealogy and dna research.
--
Esther A. Herold

-------------- Original message from arturoramos : --------------

>
> America:
>
> Again, it would be very helpful if you could provide your grandmother's name as
> spouses names are important in identifying the correct person.
>
> Now with an approximate birth date of 1900, I can tell you that your grandfather
> would not be listed in the LDS databases as they do not extract information from
> records past 1900 for privacy reasons... that is one of the reasons why dates,
> even if approximate are so important.
>
> Give us some of his other life events... did your grandfather immigrate to the
> United States? If so, there will be a border crossing record for him.
>
> If you have the approximate date of his marriage, you might be able to track
> down his marriage record (in civil or church records) which should give his
> parents' names.
>
> The Jews in Monterrey are mostly old Sephardim Jewish converso families that
> immigrated there in the 1500s to escape the Inquisition in Spain. There is
> however, a decently sized Ashkenazi Jewish population in Mexico from around the
> time of World War II.

America:

You wrote:

"(It would be nice to have a timeline app to document this sort of stuff)"

You can download PAF software for free from the familysearch.org site and it will allow you to keep your genealogy information in a database that can produce many different types of standard genealogical reports. Such software is a must for anyone seriously conducting genealogy research.

It makes it possible to enter notes, sources, etc. for each person and event which are musts if you want to have reliable documentation of your research.

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp?Page=home/welcome/simplePAFRegistration.asp

Yes, I know!!
--
Esther A. Herold

-------------- Original message from sangerjaime@aim.com: --------------

> Esther,
>
> Monterrey is a city in the state of Nuveo Leon!!
>
> Jaime
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: eaherold@att.net
> To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
> Sent: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:24 pm
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Salvador Quintero del Rio
>
>
>
> Most of the descendants of these old converso families in Monterrey and Nuevo
> Leon do not know of their heritage. Their heritage has only in recent years
> come to light with genealogy and dna research.
> --
> Esther A. Herold
>
> -------------- Original message from arturoramos :
> --------------
>
>
> >
> > America:
> >
> > Again, it would be very helpful if you could provide your grandmother's name
> as
> > spouses names are important in identifying the correct person.
> >
> > Now with an approximate birth date of 1900, I can tell you that your
> grandfather
> > would not be listed in the LDS databases as they do not extract information
> from
> > records past 1900 for privacy reasons... that is one of the reasons why dates,
>
> > even if approximate are so important.
> >
> > Give us some of his other life events... did your grandfather immigrate to the
>
> > United States? If so, there will be a border crossing record for him.
> >
> > If you have the approximate date of his marriage, you might be able to track
> > down his marriage record (in civil or church records) which should give his
> > parents' names.
> >
> > The Jews in Monterrey are mostly old Sephardim Jewish converso families that
> > immigrated there in the 1500s to escape the Inquisition in Spain. There is
> > however, a decently sized Ashkenazi Jewish population in Mexico from around
> the
> > time of World War II.
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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