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By mendezdetorres - Posted on 30 March 2008

Is anyone familiar with these surnames?

DE LA PEDROSA
DíAZ-CASTELLANO
ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ
LOMELíN

i HAVE 3 ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ AND ABOUT 4 DE LA CRUZ
MY RESEARCH IS LEADING ME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT
THESE TWO FAMILIES ARE RELATED. SOME JUST ÁLVAREZ
OR CRUZ. DíAZ-CASTELLANO IS THE INTERESTING ONE I HAD NEVER
SEEN IT BEFORE. ANY HELP OR COMMENTS? GRACIAS! -dANIEL MDC

I have done some research on the Lomelin surname. I'll help if I can.

David in Albany, CA

-----Original Message-----
>From: mormonboy74
>Sent: Mar 30, 2008 2:03 AM
>To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Alteño Surnames
>
>
>Is anyone familiar with these surnames?
>
>DE LA PEDROSA
>DíAZ-CASTELLANO
>ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ
>LOMELíN
>
>i HAVE 3 ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ AND ABOUT 4 DE LA CRUZ
>MY RESEARCH IS LEADING ME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT
>THESE TWO FAMILIES ARE RELATED. SOME JUST ÁLVAREZ
>OR CRUZ. DíAZ-CASTELLANO IS THE INTERESTING ONE I HAD NEVER
>SEEN IT BEFORE. ANY HELP OR COMMENTS? GRACIAS! -dANIEL MDC

Hola Primo ,I have alot of Lomellini,Lomelin and Lomeli and they all are the same . Carlos Lomellini was from Genoa,Italy and married Maria Benavides en Nochistlan,en 1609.Both of these are my ancestors about a dozen times.
Eonnie Reynoso pariente acasi todos de Los Altos
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com> From: mormonboy74@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:03:36 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Alteño Surnames> > > Is anyone familiar with these surnames?> > DE LA PEDROSA> DíAZ-CASTELLANO> ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ> LOMELíN> > i HAVE 3 ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ AND ABOUT 4 DE LA CRUZ > MY RESEARCH IS LEADING ME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT> THESE TWO FAMILIES ARE RELATED. SOME JUST ÁLVAREZ> OR CRUZ. DíAZ-CASTELLANO IS THE INTERESTING ONE I HAD NEVER> SEEN IT BEFORE. ANY HELP OR COMMENTS? GRACIAS! -dANIEL MDC> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com

----- Original Message ----
From: Ronald Reynoso
To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 9:32:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Alteño Surnames
Hola Primo ,I have alot of Lomellini,Lomelin and Lomeli and they all are the same . Carlos Lomellini was from Genoa,Italy and married Maria Benavides en Nochistlan,en 1609.

I know this is not about Lomelin but about Benavides. One of the presenters at the Conference in Saltillo was Benavides......he spoke in great detail about his family's history in Northern Mexico, he proceeded to tell us that this surname's origins are Arabic from Medieval times, see below, so not only does this marriage have Italian origins but Arabic/Spanish origins.

Don't you just love it........we are all mutts!!

Last NameBenavidesSpanish: patronymic from the common medieval personal name Ben
Avid, of Arabic origin, from ibn ?Abd ‘son of the servant(of God)’ see Benavidez.

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My language instructor said that Benavides was originally Jewish, from Ben-David; then the Spanish "ez" appeared when the name carrier came to Spain during the period of moorish control of Spain before Jews were ordered out of Spain in 1492.

Jan

Alicia Carrillo wrote:
----- Original Message ----
From: Ronald Reynoso
To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 9:32:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Alteño Surnames
Hola Primo ,I have alot of Lomellini,Lomelin and Lomeli and they all are the same . Carlos Lomellini was from Genoa,Italy and married Maria Benavides en Nochistlan,en 1609.

I know this is not about Lomelin but about Benavides. One of the presenters at the Conference in Saltillo was Benavides......he spoke in great detail about his family's history in Northern Mexico, he proceeded to tell us that this surname's origins are Arabic from Medieval times, see below, so not only does this marriage have Italian origins but Arabic/Spanish origins.

Don't you just love it........we are all mutts!!

Last NameBenavidesSpanish: patronymic from the common medieval personal name Ben
Avid, of Arabic origin, from ibn ?Abd ‘son of the servant(of God)’ see Benavidez.

Hi, Manuel.
I'm Irene Garcia(-Sandoval) and I have a LOMELIN ancestor on my Mom's side. She was:
Petra (and/or) Feliciana DE LOMELIN, married to Pedro Sandoval and mother of
-Buenaventura SANDOVAL, father of
-Hilario SANDOVAL, father of
-Maria Isaac SANDOVAL, my Gandmother on my Mom's side.
Most of my ancestors on my Mom's side seem to be concentrated around Teocaltiche, with the (Rancho?) of Ostotan being their primary place of residence. Again, SANDOVAL/SANDOBAL is the predominant name; some marriage certificates indicate that no immediate family relationships were discovered, but who knows?

I hope I was able to get my message across, my geneology language is even more limited than my Tex-Mex Spanish! Hope to hear from you or any others w/info related to this line. Gracias.
mormonboy74 wrote:

Is anyone familiar with these surnames?

DE LA PEDROSA
DíAZ-CASTELLANO
ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ
LOMELíN

i HAVE 3 ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ AND ABOUT 4 DE LA CRUZ
MY RESEARCH IS LEADING ME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT
THESE TWO FAMILIES ARE RELATED. SOME JUST ÁLVAREZ
OR CRUZ. DíAZ-CASTELLANO IS THE INTERESTING ONE I HAD NEVER
SEEN IT BEFORE. ANY HELP OR COMMENTS? GRACIAS! -dANIEL MDC

Hola Irene,My name is Ronnie Reynoso,I too have several Lomeli,Lomellini.and Lomelin ancestors,which are the sames tree. Starting with Carlos Lomellini and wife Maria Benavides married in 1609 Nochistitlan. Are you of the same branch ? If I was betting man ,odds are almost certain.
Ronnie Reynoso> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:52:47 -0700> From: igarcia628@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Alteño Surnames> To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com> > Hi, Manuel.> I'm Irene Garcia(-Sandoval) and I have a LOMELIN ancestor on my Mom's side. She was:> Petra (and/or) Feliciana DE LOMELIN, married to Pedro Sandoval and mother of> -Buenaventura SANDOVAL, father of> -Hilario SANDOVAL, father of> -Maria Isaac SANDOVAL, my Gandmother on my Mom's side.> Most of my ancestors on my Mom's side seem to be concentrated around Teocaltiche, with the (Rancho?) of Ostotan being their primary place of residence. Again, SANDOVAL/SANDOBAL is the predominant name; some marriage certificates indicate that no immediate family relationships were discovered, but who knows?> > I hope I was able to get my message across, my geneology language is even more limited than my Tex-Mex Spanish! Hope to hear from you or any others w/info related to this line. Gracias.> mormonboy74 wrote:> > Is anyone familiar with these surnames?> > DE LA PEDROSA> DíAZ-CASTELLANO> ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ> LOMELíN> > i HAVE 3 ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ AND ABOUT 4 DE LA CRUZ > MY RESEARCH IS LEADING ME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT> THESE TWO FAMILIES ARE RELATED. SOME JUST ÁLVAREZ> OR CRUZ. DíAZ-CASTELLANO IS THE INTERESTING ONE I HAD NEVER> SEEN IT BEFORE. ANY HELP OR COMMENTS? GRACIAS! -dANIEL MDC> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com> > > XOXMOMXOX Nena> > > > __________________________________________________> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com

Hi Ronnie.
I have Petra/Feliciana de Lomelin married to Pedro de Sandoval in 1814, her parents apparently were Pedro Lomelin and Feliciana Rodrigues; and not too sure on this one, but I show Maria de Jesus Benabides married to Jose Manuel Yanes around 1800...
...Are we getting closer?

Ronald Reynoso wrote:

Hola Irene,My name is Ronnie Reynoso,I too have several Lomeli,Lomellini.and Lomelin ancestors,which are the sames tree. Starting with Carlos Lomellini and wife Maria Benavides married in 1609 Nochistitlan. Are you of the same branch ? If I was betting man ,odds are almost certain.
Ronnie Reynoso> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:52:47 -0700> From: igarcia628@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Alteño Surnames> To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com> > Hi, Manuel.> I'm Irene Garcia(-Sandoval) and I have a LOMELIN ancestor on my Mom's side. She was:> Petra (and/or) Feliciana DE LOMELIN, married to Pedro Sandoval and mother of> -Buenaventura SANDOVAL, father of> -Hilario SANDOVAL, father of> -Maria Isaac SANDOVAL, my Gandmother on my Mom's side.> Most of my ancestors on my Mom's side seem to be concentrated around Teocaltiche, with the (Rancho?) of Ostotan being their primary place of residence. Again, SANDOVAL/SANDOBAL is the predominant name; some marriage certificates indicate that no immediate family relationships were discovered, but who knows?> > I hope I was able to get my message across, my geneology language is even more limited than my Tex-Mex Spanish! Hope to hear from you or any others w/info related to this line. Gracias.> mormonboy74 wrote:> >
Is anyone familiar with these surnames?> > DE LA PEDROSA> DíAZ-CASTELLANO> ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ> LOMELíN> > i HAVE 3 ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ AND ABOUT 4 DE LA CRUZ > MY RESEARCH IS LEADING ME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT> THESE TWO FAMILIES ARE RELATED. SOME JUST ÁLVAREZ> OR CRUZ. DíAZ-CASTELLANO IS THE INTERESTING ONE I HAD NEVER> SEEN IT BEFORE. ANY HELP OR COMMENTS? GRACIAS! -dANIEL MDC> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com> > > XOXMOMXOX Nena> > > > __________________________________________________> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com> > To change your subscription, log on to:>
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