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By Esther Jordan Lopez - Posted on 17 March 2008

Desde hace tiempo trato de comunicarme con ustedes para ver si me pueden ayudar con alguna informacion sobre mis ancestros. Mi nombre es Esther Jordan (Lopez) y vivo en San Diego, California.

Ahnentafel Chart for Rafael Ornelas Lopez

Second Generation
Felipe Lopez was born 23 Aug 1898 Jamay, Jalisco. He married Carmen
Ornelas 7 Jul 1917. He died 21 Feb and buried 22 Feb, 1989 in Jamay, Jalisco. Carmen Ornelas born on 28 Nov 1900 in Guadalajara, Jalisco.

Third Generation
Jesus Lopez born Rancho La Barca, Jalisco. He married Ruperta Sisneros. He died 30 Oct 1935 in Jamay, Jalisco. Ruperta Sisneros born in Rancho La Barca, Jalisco. She died in Jamay, Jalisco.

Doroteo Ornelas born in Penjamo?, Guanajuato. He married Rosa Cortez.
Rosa Cortez was born in 1881 in Santa Cruz de Astilleros, Jalisco.
Muchas Gracias si pueden o no ayudarme. --Esther Jordan

Fourth Generation
Rafael Lopez was born in Michoacan. He married Maria Guadalupe Velasco.
Maria Guadalupe Velasco was born in Michoacan.
Jose Trinidad Sisneros married Cevera Murillo (Severa).
Santos Cortez born in Santa Cruz, Jalisco. He married Leocadia Garcia de Leon de Santa Cruz de Astilleros
Leocadia Garcia de Leon born in Santa Cruz, Jalisco.

Fifth Generation
Antonio Lopez married Luqarda Aguilar (aka Aguilera).
Manuel Velasco married Estefania Ortega.
Otros nombres por parte de mi mama: Mendoza-Diaz; Gutierrez Vaca Velasquez; Mendoza-Sanchez; Davila-Diaz - todos creo son de Jalisco (Ocotlan, Guadalajara, Atotonilco El Alto; Zapotlan del Rey; Sayula, Portezuelo,y otros.

Desde hace tiempo trato de comunicarme con ustedes para ver si me pueden ayudar
con alguna informacion sobre mis ancestros. Mi nombre es Esther Jordan (Lopez)
y vivo en San Diego, California.

Ahnentafel Chart for Rafael Ornelas Lopez

Second Generation
Felipe Lopez was born 23 Aug 1898 Jamay, Jalisco. He married Carmen
Ornelas 7 Jul 1917. He died 21 Feb and buried 22 Feb, 1989 in Jamay, Jalisco.
Carmen Ornelas born on 28 Nov 1900 in Guadalajara, Jalisco.

Third Generation
Jesus Lopez born Rancho La Barca, Jalisco. He married Ruperta Sisneros. He
died 30 Oct 1935 in Jamay, Jalisco. Ruperta Sisneros born in Rancho La Barca,
Jalisco. She died in Jamay, Jalisco.

Doroteo Ornelas born in Penjamo?, Guanajuato. He married Rosa Cortez.
Rosa Cortez was born in 1881 in Santa Cruz de Astilleros, Jalisco.
Muchas Gracias si pueden o no ayudarme. --Esther Jordan

Fourth Generation
Rafael Lopez was born in Michoacan. He married Maria Guadalupe Velasco.
Maria Guadalupe Velasco was born in Michoacan.
Jose Trinidad Sisneros married Cevera Murillo (Severa).
Santos Cortez born in Santa Cruz, Jalisco. He married Leocadia Garcia de Leon
de Santa Cruz de Astilleros
Leocadia Garcia de Leon born in Santa Cruz, Jalisco.

Fifth Generation
Antonio Lopez married Luqarda Aguilar (aka Aguilera).
Manuel Velasco married Estefania Ortega.
Otros nombres por parte de mi mama: Mendoza-Diaz; Gutierrez Vaca Velasquez;
Mendoza-Sanchez; Davila-Diaz - todos creo son de Jalisco (Ocotlan, Guadalajara,
Atotonilco El Alto; Zapotlan del Rey; Sayula, Portezuelo,y otros.

Hi Esther, can you tell me who and what dates you have for Portezuelo, Zapotlan del Rey and Sayula? I've found these towns in the records for Tamazula and Zapotlan El Grande/Ciudad Gusman. I have some records from these town but not the others.

My Gutierrez family maried into the Ornelas family and they lived in the Tamazula area, my Gutierrez and Mendez family also lived in Portezuelo in the late 1800's. My records for Zapotlan El Rey and Sayula are from mostly the mid to late 1700's.

Daniel (Mendez del Camimo), does this Ornelas family belong to your Ornelas family?

Linda in Everett

Esther wrote:

Fifth Generation
Antonio Lopez married Luqarda Aguilar (aka Aguilera).
Manuel Velasco married Estefania Ortega.
Otros nombres por parte de mi mama: Mendoza-Diaz; Gutierrez Vaca Velasquez; Mendoza-Sanchez; Davila-Diaz - todos creo son de Jalisco (Ocotlan, Guadalajara, Atotonilco El Alto; Zapotlan del Rey; Sayula, Portezuelo,y otros.

I am very excited to be in this genealogy group. I have been reading all your e-mails and I like learning about the history. Thank you! I was born in Jamay, Jalisco and came to the U.S. when I was 6 years old. My history knowledge is not good but it is never too late to learn.

What I know of my great-grandmother: Maria Guadalupe Vaca Velazquez was born 12 DEC 1882 (However, the date may have been changed because she did not want it known that she was older than Great grandpa Lorenzo Gutierrez.) She was born in Portezuelo, Jalisco. She died 11 MAY 1965. My great grandfather's family were from Ocotlan, Jalisco but I am not sure whether he was born in Ocotlan or Portezuelo. A live relative told me that he was born in Portezuelo and I would like to know for sure. They were married in Jamay 26 November 1902. My Great grandpa died March 1939.

His father was Secundino Gutierrez married to Maria Juana Ruiz on 5 SEP 1855 in Zapotlan del Rey, Jalisco. His family were also from there.

Rosendo Vaca married Anastacia Velazquez at Portezuelo, Jalisco. Rosendo was shot and killed before my great grandma was born. Anastacia later remarried with some one named Cerda. I have other details but I am visiting my dauther in Virginia at the present time.

Maria Dolores Davila Diaz was born in Sayula, Jalisco around 1869. Her father was Teofilo Diaz, born 9 JAN 1834, in Sayula. Hw was married 25 SEP 1854. Her mother was Maria Davila. I have her brothers and sisters but again I have the info at home.

I am happy to share whatever information I have.

--Esther Jordan

Hello Esther! Is the Portuzuelo you refer to in Tamazula de Gordiano? My father's family is from their, im a 3rd cousin to Linda by the way. Who is López Ornelas? I am also a Ornelas from the Portuguese Kings. I'll help anyone with their Ornelas line. I will keep in touch with you, who is from Zapotlán? I have some lines from Sayula, Jalisco. -Daniel Méndez del Camino
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Im 100% I found your ancestor Rafael Lopez.
JOSE RAFAEL LOPEZ AGUILAR
Pedigree

Male

Event(s):

Birth:

Christening:

19 APR 1833
La Barca, Jalisco, Mexico

Death:

Burial:

Parents:

Father:
ANTONIO LOPEZ
Family

Mother:
LUGARDA AGUILAR

Messages:

Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:

Batch No.:
Dates:
Source Call No.:
Type:
Printout Call No.:
Type:

C606056
1828 - 1836
0281023
Film
NONE

Sheet:

-Daniel MDC
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I FOUND ALOT! OF CHILDREN FOR EACH GENERATION FOR DATES ABD BAPTISMS, IF YOU DONT HAVE THEM
FROM FAMILYSEARCH ILL BE GLAD TO SEND YOU ALL INFO. BY SATURDAY LATEST. I SHOULD BE RELATED TO
YOU ESTER DISTANTLY SEVERAL WAYS. THE VELASCOS OF LOS ALTOS WERE ORIGINALLY RUIZ DE VELASCO
THEY ARRIVED DURING THE 1620'S IN MEXICO FROM SEVILLA...I THINK I NEED TO VERIFY I AGAIN. ORTEGA IS
A POSSIBILITY SINCE MOST WERE MORENO DE ORTEGA BUT THERE WERE OTHER ORTEGAS AS WELL. OBVIOULY
THE MENDOZAS ARE ALL RELATED..DIAZ CAN BE MANY WAYS...DIAZ TISCAREñO, DIAZ DE LEóN. GUTIéRREZ CAN
BE GUTIéRREZ-RUBIO. aS FOR YOUR oRNELAS LINE, CONGRATS YOUR PORTUGUESE! yAY! I DID FIND A DOROTEO
DE ORNELAS BUT HE WAS MARRIED TO A JUANA NOT ROSA BUT WAS FROM THE SMAE PLACE IN GUANAJUATO.
SO MAYBE THEY MIGHT BE RELATED SOMEHOW. YOULL NEED TO TRACE THEM BACK TO AT LEAST CA. 1750 IN
ORDER TO CONNECT BACK TO THE ALTEñO MAIN BRANCH OF THE oRNELAS. 1750 CA. IS MY EST. WHERE MOST OF
THE FAMILY HAD SPREAD OTHER THAN THE LOS ALTOS. THEY MARRIED INSIDE A LOT! YOU CANT FIND AN ORNELAS
IN GUANANJUATO UNTIL 1778! SOME USEFUL INFO...ALVARO DE ORNELAS WAS A ROYAL FROM PORTUGAL THAT
ARRIVED IN LAGOS DE MORENO IN THE 1570'S. HE WAS A GRANDSON OF THE KING. HE WAS THE CHILD OF
PRINCESS ESTEFANIA DE AVIS.
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Yes, you did!!! I am so excited. This is a wonderful way to start my day! Thank you!

My Grandmother's Background: Carmen Ornelas Born 28 NOV 1900, Guadalajara, Jalisco. Died 7 NOV 1996; Her father was Doroteo Ornelas, Guanajuato; I don't have anything else for him.
Her mother was Rosa Cortez born in Santa Cruz de Astilleros, Jalisco; Carmen had a brother named Heriberto who married Margarita Hernandez, Alfredo who married Soledad Gonzalez and Adela who resided in Chicago for many years. I have other info but not with me at this time.
Rosa had brothers and sisters as follow: Guadalupe, Maria Nestora, Refugio, Baldomero, Savas, Casimira (7 MAR 1867),Maria Merced, 24 SEP 1871. This info was given me verbally by my mother, so I don't know how accurate it might be. Rosa's father was Santos Cortez, Santa Cruz, Jalisco and mother Leocadia Garcia de Leon also from Santa Cruz.

I will try to get info on Secundino Gutierrez from Zapotlan del Rey, Jalisco, I have about 8 brothers/sisters for him but not with me at this time. His father was Antonio Gutierrez and his mother Maria de Jesus Navarro.

I hope this helps. Thank you, Esther

Im 100% I found your ancestor Rafael Lopez.
JOSE RAFAEL LOPEZ AGUILAR
Pedigree

Male

Event(s):

Birth:

Christening:

19 APR 1833
La Barca, Jalisco, Mexico

Death:

Burial:

Parents:

Father:
ANTONIO LOPEZ
Family

Mother:
LUGARDA AGUILAR

Messages:

Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or
christening date.

Source Information:

Batch No.:
Dates:
Source Call No.:
Type:
Printout Call No.:
Type:

C606056
1828 - 1836
0281023
Film
NONE

Sheet:

-Daniel MDC
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Daniel, yes, please send me whatever info you have. This is exciting news for me! Regarding my grandmother Carmen Ornelas... she believed in keeping her origin pure. She disowned my father when he married my mother because she was not in her class.

Wednesday, Mar 19, 2008

Dear Daniel--

There is a Portesuelo in the municipio de La Barca.
We have some Godinez ancestors there.

Is there another Portesuelo?

Patricia Burton

--- Daniel Mendez wrote:

>
> Hello Esther! Is the Portuzuelo you refer to in
> Tamazula de Gordiano? My father's family is from
> their, im a 3rd cousin to Linda by the way. Who is
> López Ornelas? I am also a Ornelas from the
> Portuguese Kings. I'll help anyone with their
> Ornelas line. I will keep in touch with you, who is
> from Zapotlán? I have some lines from Sayula,
> Jalisco. -Daniel Méndez del Camino
>
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> Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live.
>
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Esther,

I have done some looking, and found some additional information for you (such as teofilo dias's parents and grandparents). I am including an updated Ahnentafel Chart for you, and I can send you a gedcom file with everything that I have been able to find for you.

Jonathan

Ahnentafel Chart for Graciela Esther Lopez Mendoza

Third Generation

4. Felipe Lopez was born on 23 Aug 1898 in Jamay, Jalisco, Mexico. He died on 21 Feb 1989 in Jamay, Jalisco, Mexico. He was buried on 22 Feb 1989 in Jamay, Jalisco, Mexico. He married Carmen Ornelas on 7 Jul 1917.

5. Carmen Ornelas was born on 28 Nov 1900 in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico. She died on 7 Nov 1996 in Jamay, Jalisco, Mexico.

6. Librado Mendoza was born on 28 May 1899 in Colma, Colima, Mexico. He died on 9 Jan 1980 in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico. He was buried on 11 Jan 1980 in Jamay, Jalisco, Mexico. He married Librada Gutierrez on 6 Jun 1923 in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.

7. Librada Gutierrez was born on 20 Jul 1903 in Ocotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. She was christened on 24 Jul 1903 in Ocotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. She died on 3 Sep 1994 in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico. She was buried in Jamay, Jalisco, Mexico.

Fourth Generation

8. JOSE DE JESUS LOPES BELASCO was born on 29 Jun 1858 in Rancho La Barca, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 29 Jun 1858 in Jamay, Jalisco, Mexico. He died on 30 Oct 1935 in Jamay, Jalisco, Mexico. He was buried in Jamay, Jalisco, Mexico. He married Ruperta Jimenez or Sisneros.

9. Ruperta Jimenez or Sisneros was born about 1863 in Rancho La Barca, Jalisco, Mexico. She died about 1908 in Jamay, Jalisco, Mexico.

10. Doroteo Ornelas was born in Penjamo, Guanajuato, Mexico. He married Rosa Cortez.

11. Rosa Cortez was born about 1881 in Santa Cruz de Astilleros, Jalisco, Mexico.

12. JOSE LIBRADO DE LA TRINIDAD MENDOSA SANCHES was born in La Barca, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 17 Aug 1856 in Jamay, Jalisco, Mexico. He died in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico. He was buried on 11 Jun 1927 in Jalisco, Mexico. He married Maria Dolores Diaz.

13. Maria Dolores Diaz was born in 1864 in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico.

14. Lorenzo Gutierrez was born on 10 Aug 1882 in Ocotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. He died in Mar 1939 in Jamay, Jalisco, Mexico. He married Maria Guadalupe Vaca Velasquez on 26 Nov 1902 in Mexico.

15. Maria Guadalupe Vaca Velasquez was born on 12 Dec 1882 in Portezuelo, Jalisco, Mexico. She died on 11 May 1965 in Jamay, Jalisco, Mexico. She was buried in Jamay, Jalisco, Mexico.

Fifth Generation

16. JOSE RAFAEL LOPEZ AGUILAR was born in Michoacan. He was christened on 19 Apr 1833 in La Barca, Jalisco, Mexico. He married Maria Guadalupe Velasco.

17. Maria Guadalupe Velasco was born in Michoacan.

18. TRINIDAD JIMENEZ .TRINIDAD married Cevera Murillo on 11 Feb 1852 in Ocotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

19. Cevera Murillo .

22. Santos Cortez was born in Santa Cruz, Jalisco, Mexico. He married Leocadia Garcia de Leon on 21 May 1866 in Jesus, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.

23. Leocadia Garcia de Leon was born in Santa Cruz, Jalisco, Mexico.

24. Gregorio Mendoza .Gregorio married Geronima Sanchez.

25. Geronima Sanchez .

26. TEOFILO DIAS NINO was born on 9 Jan 1834 in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on 9 Jan 1834 in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico. He married Maria Davila on 25 Sep 1854 in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico.

27. Maria Davila .

28. SECUNDINO DE LA ASENCION GUTIERRES NAVARRO was christened on 16 May 1833 in Ocotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. He married MA. JUANA RUIS on 5 Sep 1855 in Zapotlan del Rey, Jalisco, Mexico.

29. MA. JUANA RUIS .

30. Rosendo Vaca .Rosendo married Anastacia Velasquez in Portezuelo, Jalisco, Mexico.

31. Anastacia Velasquez .

Sixth Generation

32. Antonio Lopez .Antonio married Lugarda Aguilar.

33. Lugarda Aguilar .

34. MANUEL VELASCO .MANUEL married MARIA ESTEFANIA ORTEGA.

35. MARIA ESTEFANIA ORTEGA .

44. Guadalupe Cortez .Guadalupe married Vicenta Cortez.

45. Vicenta Cortez .

46. Julian Garcia de Lion .Julian married Jesus Zatarai.

47. Jesus Zatarai .

48. Francisco Mendoza .Francisco married Maria Dias.

49. Maria Dias .

50. Ambrosio Sanchez .Ambrosio married Manuela Sanchez.

51. Manuela Sanchez .

52. JOSE RAMON DIAZ .JOSE married MARIA ANASTACIA DE JESUS NINO on 4 Dec 1808 in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico.

53. MARIA ANASTACIA DE JESUS NINO .

56. JOSE ANTONIO GUTIERRES .JOSE married MARIA DE JESUS NABARRO on 16 Oct 1822 in Ocotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

57. MARIA DE JESUS NABARRO .
58. NICOLAS RUIZ .NICOLAS married MA. DE JESUS RIVAS.

59. MA. DE JESUS RIVAS .

Seventh Generation

104. VICENTE DIAZ .VICENTE married JUANA FLORES.

105. JUANA FLORES .

106. JOSE ANTONIO NINO .JOSE married MARIA NICOLASA DIAS.

107. MARIA NICOLASA DIAS .

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