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By longsjourney - Posted on 28 May 2007

I have done church marriage records from Jerez and am now working on civil marriage records. I'm finding some that are years apart and others that are days apart, usually the civil marriage first.. Which date would you put for the wedding date? It appears there was a lot more fuss over the church marriage. I'm entering both into the files but wondered which should appear on the marriage date box. I know my grandparents from there only celebrated the church marriage date.

Linda in Everett

I think that the Church Marriage would be best because its the persons
belief in religious rites, just like us Mormons sometimes we get married in
Civil Law first, but its not recognized by the church to be Spouses yet
until you are married in the Temple, then its when we celebrated.

>From: longsjourney
>Reply-To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
>To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Church and civil marriage records
>Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 01:04:38 -0700 (PDT)
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>I have done church marriage records from Jerez and am now working on civil
>marriage records. I'm finding some that are years apart and others that
>are days apart, usually the civil marriage first.. Which date would you put
>for the wedding date? It appears there was a lot more fuss over the church
>marriage. I'm entering both into the files but wondered which should appear
>on the marriage date box. I know my grandparents from there only celebrated
>the church marriage date.
>
>Linda in Everett

Civil marriage coul be added as a note as it is part of history events in a person´s life or viceversa. I think civil marriage is more likely to be useful in the case of civil requirements. For those relatives who are going to appreciate your work in genealogy matter it would be the best to have both dates.

Daniel Mendez escribió: I think that the Church Marriage would be best because its the persons
belief in religious rites, just like us Mormons sometimes we get married in
Civil Law first, but its not recognized by the church to be Spouses yet
until you are married in the Temple, then its when we celebrated.

>From: longsjourney
>Reply-To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
>To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Church and civil marriage records
>Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 01:04:38 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>
>I have done church marriage records from Jerez and am now working on civil
>marriage records. I'm finding some that are years apart and others that
>are days apart, usually the civil marriage first.. Which date would you put
>for the wedding date? It appears there was a lot more fuss over the church
>marriage. I'm entering both into the files but wondered which should appear
>on the marriage date box. I know my grandparents from there only celebrated
>the church marriage date.
>
>Linda in Everett

I use PAF program, and it allows for different marriage events. But one event would still need to be the main marriage date. So for myself, I have been placing the Church marriage in the main marriage event and then I add the Civil Marriage as a separate marriage event. So at the high level view, it only shows the Church marriage but when I select the detail view, then it shows both dates and each date stores its own event location and event source.

Hope this helps,
Angie Godina

In the USA if you have a Church Marriage it is legally recognized by the State, but here in Mexico people have to get married twice since the State does not recognize Church Marriages and if you have a Civil Marrage as far as the Church is concerned you are not really married (although now you can not get married by the Church unless you previously got a Civil Marriage).
So, many couples get a Civil Marriage a few weeks or days before the Church Marriage (or even the same day, just before or after the Church ceremony), but the big wedding family party usually happens the same day as the Church wedding.
All this Church-State separation can be traced back to President Juarez's Reformation Laws.
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