You are hereForums / Genealogy Research / Visit to Archivo General de la Nacion

Visit to Archivo General de la Nacion

warning: Creating default object from empty value in /home/lafamilia/nuestrosranchos.com/sites/all/modules/mailhandler/mailhandler.module on line 123.

By arturoramos - Posted on 29 April 2007

Hello fellow Ranchos members...

I will be in Mexico City next Thursday through Sunday and am hoping to spend most of the day Friday at the Archivo General de la Nacion. I cannot promise that I will have time, but if someone has a specific document for which they have exact repository (i.e. collection name, folio number and page number, etc.) that they would like me to look up I will try to do my best.

I hope everybody's research is going well.

Bon Voyage, Arturo,

I wish you could help their techs make their Guia more user-friendly. they need someone with your expertise. I can't even bring up the search fields.

Emilie
----- Original Message -----
From: arturoramos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:32 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Visit to Archivo General de la Nacion

Hello fellow Ranchos members...

I will be in Mexico City next Thursday through Sunday and am hoping to spend most of the day Friday at the Archivo General de la Nacion. I cannot promise that I will have time, but if someone has a specific document for which they have exact repository (i.e. collection name, folio number and page number, etc.) that they would like me to look up I will try to do my best.

I hope everybody's research is going well.

Hello Arturo,
You are so lucky to be able to travel and do research! If you have
time I would be very grateful if you could get me a copy of the
following Expediante:

Instituciones Coloniales
.........Inquisición.
............Inquisición. (61)
...............Volumen 372
Título:
Expediente 25
Fecha(s):
AÑO 1632
Nivel de descripción: Unidad documental compuesta (Expediente)
Volumen y soporte de la unidad de descripción (cantidad, tamaño
dimensiones): Fojas: 39
Nombre del o de los productores: (Pendiente)

Alcance y contenido:
INFORMACIONES DEL BR. FRANCISCO LOPEZ DE GUZMAN, HIJO DE GABRIEL LOPEZ
DE LA CRUZ, Y ANA DE PAZ, PARA FAMILIAR. (GENEALOGIAS.) MEXICO.

The above archive is for the brother (Francisco Lopez de Guzman) of my
10 g-grandmother, Maria Lopez de la Cruz who was married to Lazaro
Martin del Campo. I know there are a number of us on Ranchos who are
researching this couple.

Enjoy your trip!

Maria Cortez
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:32:43 -0700 (PDT)
> From: arturoramos
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Visit to Archivo General de la Nacion
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
> Message-ID:
>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>
> Hello fellow Ranchos members...
>
> I will be in Mexico City next Thursday through Sunday and am hoping to spend most of the day Friday at the Archivo General de la Nacion. I cannot promise that I will have time, but if someone has a specific document for which they have exact repository (i.e. collection name, folio number and page number, etc.) that they would like me to look up I will try to do my best.
>
>

Hello Arturo!

Wish I were going with you!! Have a great time! Spend the rest of the time going to the old book stores, I believe the street is Vensuela? Where Porrua is...I guess you know about that, huh?

Be safe,
Mickey

-----Original Message-----
From: arturo.ramos2@gmail.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 3:32 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Visit to Archivo General de la Nacion

Hello fellow Ranchos members...

I will be in Mexico City next Thursday through Sunday and am hoping to spend
most of the day Friday at the Archivo General de la Nacion. I cannot promise
that I will have time, but if someone has a specific document for which they
have exact repository (i.e. collection name, folio number and page number, etc.)
that they would like me to look up I will try to do my best.

I hope everybody's research is going well.

I just got back from Mexico City this morning and wanted to report a bit on my trip, or at least the part of it related to my research...

The Archivo General de la Nacion is located just behind the Legislative Palace in the Ampliacion Penitenciaria. The name comes from the fact that the Archive building used to be a jail. The architecture is impressive and the layout quite amenable to an archive as each wing of the star-shaped building holds a different collection and the documents are placed in "cells" so that they are isolated in case of fire, etc.

I have been told, however, that the building, due to its age and the construction materials is very humid, which is detrimental to the documents and the government has been for some time now considering moving the archive to a new purpose-built building.

To register as a researcher, I merely wrote a letter outlining my research interests and the purpose of my research that included my full name, address, phone number and email address. This is a basic requirement in order to obtain a researcher card. Presenting the letter and an official identification document, the registration process took about 20 minutes.

In order to handle any document, researchers are required to wear gloves and a face mask. I bought some latex gloves and a face mask at a pharmacy, but I would recommend you find some nice, well-fitting cotton gloves instead of the latex ones, which are very uncomfortable to work in and difficult to take on and off as is needed to switch back and forth between computer and document.

You are allowed only loose leaf paper, a pencil and a computer. I did not take a computer, but would recommend it as for me it is faster to type than handwrite transcriptions.

The archive has digitized versions of many colonial document collections including Tierras and Inquisicion (probably not coincidentally, from the LDS fimiling of these collections). Unfortunately, the films include multiple volumes and expedientes with no markers to differentiate where one starts and the other ends. The image search engine leads one to the correct digitized film but not to the correct place on the film where the document resides so it is quite difficult to use this service.

The Archive has a photocopy service that will do up to 30 copies in a same day service or larger copy jobs in a two-day turnaround at 1 peso per copy (about 10 cents). Unfortunately all orders have to go in before 2:30 pm which makes the day short since the archive opens only at 8:30 am. I meant to inquire whether one could take a digital camera and photograph documents but forgot. Does anyone know?

It was an amazing experience to handle documents from the 1500s and 1600s in my hands. The documents I saw were in pristine shape and very legible. The paper is very high quality--thus their long life.

Unfortunately, due to the time constraints, I was unable to look up all of the documents that I would have liked to see. I did get a number of very important documents related to the Tlaxcaltec colony in Colotlan. One is from a visit by a a Capitan Urdinola in 1617 and another set is a collection of the documents related to the rights and privileges granted by the Crown to the families that was compiled in 1712 in order to defend these rights and privileges from the local government that was trying to take them away.

If anyone is interested in trying to read the 1617 report of Captain Francisco Urdinola from his visit to Colotlan for the Viceroy el Marques de Guadalcazar, I have uploaded it to the file section under Books and Articles:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.com/node/15985

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.

Navigation

Who's online

There are currently 1 user and 3 guests online.

Online users

  • arturoramos

Languages