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By Marty - Posted on 13 December 2006

Hi AG,
I am looking for a Maria Huizar... She would have
Been born in the late 1850's to the early 1860's...
I am finding out that Huizar is not a very common
surname... she married a Cristobal Hernandez, and
they had at least 2 children that I know of.... Zenona
Hernandez and a sister whose name I do not know.

It is very possible that lived in Colotlan andTotatiche
In Jalisco.

Thank you for contacting me and letting me know.

Marty

-------Original Message-------

From: A G
Date: 12/12/06 16:13:45
To: research [at] NuestrosRanchos [dot] com; marty [at] vvm [dot] com
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Researching Huizar

Hey Marty,

Welcome to the group. I am researching Huizar also.
Except that my Huizar family are from Colotlan and
Totatiche in Jalisco. It's not that far from
Fresnillo, I think...

Do you have any specific names? I can look them up
and see if I have any relatives with those names.

Take a look at my files if you are interested.

Angie Godina

--- Marty wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
> my name is Marty and I am researching for my
> ancestry in the vicinity of the city/town of
> Fresillo in Zacatecas, Mexico... I am very intrested
> in the Sur-names of:
> Arroyo
> Villasana
> Hernandez
> Huizar
>
> If anyone has any of these Sur-names in their
> ancestry I would like to hear from you.
>
> Marty

In Los Angeles, one of the City Councilman is named "Huizar" and he is from Fresnillo.

Marty wrote: Hi AG,
I am looking for a Maria Huizar... She would have
Been born in the late 1850's to the early 1860's...
I am finding out that Huizar is not a very common
surname... she married a Cristobal Hernandez, and
they had at least 2 children that I know of.... Zenona
Hernandez and a sister whose name I do not know.

It is very possible that lived in Colotlan andTotatiche
In Jalisco.

Thank you for contacting me and letting me know.

Marty

-------Original Message-------

From: A G
Date: 12/12/06 16:13:45
To: research [at] NuestrosRanchos [dot] com; marty [at] vvm [dot] com
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Researching Huizar

Hey Marty,

Welcome to the group. I am researching Huizar also.
Except that my Huizar family are from Colotlan and
Totatiche in Jalisco. It's not that far from
Fresnillo, I think...

Do you have any specific names? I can look them up
and see if I have any relatives with those names.

Take a look at my files if you are interested.

Angie Godina

--- Marty wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
> my name is Marty and I am researching for my
> ancestry in the vicinity of the city/town of
> Fresillo in Zacatecas, Mexico... I am very intrested
> in the Sur-names of:
> Arroyo
> Villasana
> Hernandez
> Huizar
>
> If anyone has any of these Sur-names in their
> ancestry I would like to hear from you.
>
> Marty

Marty,

Sorry, I didn't find any information on your Maria Huizar.

Here is my 2nd great grandparents:
Jose Roman Huizar and Maria Leonarda Cardenas -
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/VR/individual_record.asp?recid=10661120&lds=4&region=10&regionfriendly=Mexico&frompage=99

I still have family in the Rancho Agua Gorda, which is where Roman indicates his birth location.

For those of you who have the book:
Los Valdes de Totatiche, Leonarda Cardenas' picture is on the back cover. It is also found within the book on her family's page. Leonarda was the great granddaughter of Jose Leandro Valdes for whom the book is based on.

Marty when you are searching for Huizar relatives in the IGI or VRI index, be sure to spell it both Huizar and Huisar to get accurate records. Also occasionally I have seen it spelled Guizar and Guisar.
And once I even seen it spelled Quisar but when I ordered the film, the person who extracted the record mistook a G for a Q.

Many of the Huizar names in the IGI/VRI in the Totatiche and Colotlan area are related to me. Some can also be found in Momax and Tlaltenango, Zacatecas. I haven't seen any yet in Fresnillo but I will keep a look out for you. If you ever find out any additional names let me know and I will take a look again.

Good Luck on your search,
Angie Godina

Hi Angie,
My name is Amelia Macias and my family surnames are Huizar, Gutierrez, Del Real, Carrillo. They were from Colotlan, Bonquilla, Cuculiten and Totatiche, Momax, El Zapote

Some names:
Victor Nunez Huizar1847, Bonquilla
Ygnacio Carrillo Huizar1821, Bonquilla
Jose Antonio Del Real 1819, Momax
Maria Gaeta, 1846, Totatiche

My brother Felipe Huizar Gutierrez still lives in Colotlan

In a marriage record (1767 Aguascalientes), the parents of the groom
are left blank. In another recording of the same marriage, it says
"Expuesto Domingo García" in the space for the groom's parents. Can
anyone tell me what this means?

Stuart Armstrong
mailto:stuartarms [at] gmail [dot] com

Expuestos son los niños que eran abandonados en las puertas de las iglesias, claustros, conventos y en casas de vecinos del pueblo o ciudad. Cuando se abandonaban en las Iglesias y sus propiedades se les llamaba "Hijos de la Iglesia".
Lic. Rodolfo Sinaí Gómez
> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:33:53 -0600> From: stuartarms [at] gmail [dot] com> To: research [at] NuestrosRanchos [dot] com> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] expuesto> > In a marriage record (1767 Aguascalientes), the parents of the groom> are left blank. In another recording of the same marriage, it says> "Expuesto Domingo García" in the space for the groom's parents. Can> anyone tell me what this means?> > Stuart Armstrong> mailto:stuartarms [at] gmail [dot] com> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
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Rudolfo is correct and I was also told that sometimes these children called expuestos were the child of the man of the house and someone other than his wife.  It takes going further in the records to see if the child stayed with this family or not.
 
In checking records I found one family where the male child when by the surname of the home he was left (De la Cueva) at and then at least 30 years later he is using a different surname (Hurtado) which I think means he found who his actual parent (male or female) was.  This made for some interesting records since some of his children started using the new suname and others continued to use his old surname.  Finding lineage is sometimes very challening.
 
Linda no longer in B.C., now in Everett Wa.

--- On Tue, 9/30/08, Rodolfo Sinai Gomez wrote:

From: Rodolfo Sinai Gomez
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] expuesto
To: research [at] nuestrosranchos [dot] com
Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 6:42 AM

Expuestos son los niños que eran abandonados en las puertas de las iglesias,
claustros, conventos y en casas de vecinos del pueblo o ciudad. Cuando se
abandonaban en las Iglesias y sus propiedades se les llamaba "Hijos de la
Iglesia".
Lic. Rodolfo Sinaí Gómez
> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:33:53 -0600> From:
stuartarms [at] gmail [dot] com> To: research [at] NuestrosRanchos [dot] com> Subject: [Nuestros
Ranchos] expuesto> > In a marriage record (1767 Aguascalientes), the
parents of the groom> are left blank. In another recording of the same
marriage, it says> "Expuesto Domingo García" in the space for the
groom's parents. Can> anyone tell me what this means?> > Stuart
Armstrong> mailto:stuartarms [at] gmail [dot] com> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

Amelia,

I am researching my sister -in-laws family from this area. There are Carillo
and Gaeta surnames. You can find the information in the files area under
Edgar, Eric ( Tlatenango. etc)

Eric Edgar

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:17 PM, roots wrote:

>
> Hi Angie, My name is Amelia Macias and my family surnames are Huizar,
> Gutierrez, Del Real, Carrillo. They were from Colotlan, Bonquilla,
> Cuculiten and Totatiche, Momax, El Zapote
>
> Some names: Victor Nunez Huizar1847, Bonquilla
> Ygnacio Carrillo Huizar1821, Bonquilla
> Jose Antonio Del Real 1819, Momax
> Maria Gaeta, 1846, Totatiche
>
> My brother Felipe Huizar Gutierrez still lives in Colotlan

Erlinda, no siempre el niño expuesto en las puertas de alguna casa era hijo de los que allí habitaban. Es un tanto difícil comprobarlo, podemos sacar concluciones de ese hecho cuando la raza del expuesto corresponde a la de los habitantes o a la mezcla resultante según la raza de la madre, o a que el expuesto sea adoptado y apadrinado por los señores de la casa, o a los expedientes matrimoniales si es que llegó a la edad adulta y contrajo nupcias, pero la verdad es muy difícil asegurar eso. En ocasiones los expuestos ni siquiera son apadrinados por los dueños de la casa.
El uso de los apellidos era un tanto libre, los esclavos, hijos bastardos, hijos adoptados, y hasta ahijados podían sin ningún problema tomar los apellidos del amo, padre biológico o adoptivo, o del padrino. O los hijos de un mismo matrimonio podían tomar apellidos distintos, los de la madre o de algún abuelo.

Lo importante es no contemplar la historia con los prejuicios de nuestro tiempo, ni tratar de interpretarla según nuestra visión del mundo. Cada tiempo y sociedad se regía por distintas leyes, credos, dogmas, formas de pensar que tal vez sean ilógicas para nosotros.

Debemos dejar abierta cualquier posibilidad y buscar la verdad en datos comprobables sin interpretar nada dentro de nuestros parámetros.
Lic. Rodolfo Sinaí Gómez
> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:01:44 -0700> From: longsjourney [at] yahoo [dot] com> To: research [at] NuestrosRanchos [dot] com> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] expuesto> > Rudolfo is correct and I was also told that sometimes these children called expuestos were the child of the man of the house and someone other than his wife. It takes going further in the records to see if the child stayed with this family or not.> > In checking records I found one family where the male child when by the surname of the home he was left (De la Cueva) at and then at least 30 years later he is using a different surname (Hurtado) which I think means he found who his actual parent (male or female) was. This made for some interesting records since some of his children started using the new suname and others continued to use his old surname. Finding lineage is sometimes very challening.> > Linda no longer in B.C., now in Everett Wa.> > --- On Tue, 9/30/08, Rodolfo Sinai Gomez wrote:> > From: Rodolfo Sinai Gomez > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] expuesto> To: research [at] nuestrosranchos [dot] com> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 6:42 AM> > Expuestos son los niños que eran abandonados en las puertas de las iglesias,> claustros, conventos y en casas de vecinos del pueblo o ciudad. Cuando se> abandonaban en las Iglesias y sus propiedades se les llamaba "Hijos de la> Iglesia".> Lic. Rodolfo Sinaí Gómez> > Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:33:53 -0600> From:> stuartarms [at] gmail [dot] com> To: research [at] NuestrosRanchos [dot] com> Subject: [Nuestros> Ranchos] expuesto> > In a marriage record (1767 Aguascalientes), the> parents of the groom> are left blank. In another recording of the same> marriage, it says> "Expuesto Domingo García" in the space for the> groom's parents. Can> anyone tell me what this means?> > Stuart> Armstrong> mailto:stuartarms [at] gmail [dot] com> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email> to:> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com> > To change your subscription,> log on to:> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com> _________________________________________________________________> P.D. Live Search tiene una sorpresa buenísima, chécala aquí.> http://www.ganabuscando.com/Default.aspx> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com> > > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
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Hello Amelia,

You are researching this family:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/AF/pedigree_view.asp?recid=43072678&frompage=99

Right? Someone else just recently asked me about this family, but I can't remember who... I need to check my notes which are currently not with me.

Anyway, from what I remember, as far as a know, I am not related to this family of Huizar. I suspect if you research a generation further back we will have a link into my family of Huizar. Also, if I remember correctly this line of Del Real family married into the Cardenas family, of which I also decend from. But I could not see that marriage in the above link. So I may be mistaken. Do you have any Cardenas relatives? Also, I think we do share the Gaeta family, but again I could not see that marriage in the above link. Could you send me more information on your Gaeta family?

Thanks,
Angie Godina

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