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By Bill Figueroa - Posted on 10 December 2006

According to the book by Jesús Gómez Serrano "Los españoles en Aguascalientes durante la época colonial", in 1792 visiting dignitary José Menéndez Valdés compiled a population census of the district of Guadalajara, which underlines the importance that Aguascalientes had as a final destination for many spanish and portuguese immigrants. Along the same lines, the local "padrón de población" compiled by Félix Calleja in 1792, confirms the data gathered by Menéndez Valdés and includes the name, origin, age and occupation of european immigrants or "españoles" that lived in Aguascalientes.

I believe that the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" can be a useful tool for those of us doing genealogical research. Although I am interested in several families who lived in Aguascalientes at that time, the most important for me is the family of my 4th great-grandparents Vicente Ruiz de Esparza and Rafaela Trillo y Delgado (his 2nd wife). According to the "Padrón de Aguascalientes of 1770", Vicente and his first wife Catharina de Orosco y Ralla lived in a house located on "Calle de la Merced" with their 24-year old son Joseph Cayetano Ruiz de Esparza. After his first wife died in 1775, Vicente remarried and had four sons from his second marriage, among them my 3rd. great-grandfather Francisco Antonio Abad Ruiz de Esparza, born in Aguascalientes in 1781. Both Vicente Ruiz de Esparza and Rafaela Trillo y Delgado died in 1797.

I believe that this family still lived on "Calle de la Merced" in 1792 and would appreciate any information concerning the whereabouts of the original "padron de 1792" or any other information about my ancestors. I can reciprocate by looking up information about your ancestors on my copies of the "padrón parroquial de 1770" and the first "padrón parroquial de 1648".

Guillermo Figueroa Strecker

Hi Bill!

I am going to take you up on your offer: ("I can reciprocate by looking up
information about your ancestors on my copies of the "padrón parroquial de
1770" and the first "padrón parroquial de 1648".) as posted in your e-mail
to our group today.......I hope you do not mind......I am trying to locate
ANY info on a couple of my ancestors with the surnames "LIENDO and DE LA
ROSA".....in the 1600-1725 time period or later. Would you mind looking in
these two books of yours to see if these surnames appear? Thanks so much!

Josie in San Antonio

-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.NuestrosRanchos.com
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.NuestrosRanchos.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Figueroa
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 12:50 PM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] "Padrón de población de Aguascalientes",
compiled in 1792 by Felix Calleja

According to the book by Jesús Gómez Serrano "Los españoles en
Aguascalientes durante la época colonial", in 1792 visiting dignitary José
Menéndez Valdés compiled a population census of the district of Guadalajara,
which underlines the importance that Aguascalientes had as a final
destination for many spanish and portuguese immigrants. Along the same
lines, the local "padrón de población" compiled by Félix Calleja in 1792,
confirms the data gathered by Menéndez Valdés and includes the name,
origin, age and occupation of european immigrants or "españoles" that lived
in Aguascalientes.

I believe that the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" can be a useful tool
for those of us doing genealogical research.
I believe that this family still lived on "Calle de la Merced" in 1792 and
would appreciate any information concerning the whereabouts of the original
"padron de 1792" or any other information about my ancestors. I can
reciprocate by looking up information about your ancestors on my copies of
the "padrón parroquial de 1770" and the first "padrón parroquial de 1648".

Guillermo Figueroa Strecker

Hi Josie,

I checked the "padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes" of 1648 but could not
find a single person with the surname LIENDO or DE LA ROSA. Aguascalientes
was established in 1575 and by 1648 it was only a small village with less
than 1,000 inhabitans. By July 30, 1770 its population had grown to 19,661
people (3,620 families). The padrón of 1770 is organized by groups or
families, including "haciendas, ranchos y puestos". People who lived in
town are listed by street where they lived. There is no alphabetical index.

I have not checked the padrón of 1770, but I can tell you that I have never
seen the surname Liendo in any documents in Aguascalientes (or anywhere
else). De la Rosa is not so uncommon. There were people with that surname
in Aguascalientes since the early 1700s.

I'll let you know what I find later during the week.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: "Josie T. Trevino"
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos]"Padrón de población de Aguascalientes",
compiled in 1792 by Felix Calleja

Hi Bill!

I am going to take you up on your offer: ("I can reciprocate by looking up
information about your ancestors on my copies of the "padrón parroquial de
1770" and the first "padrón parroquial de 1648".) as posted in your e-mail
to our group today.......I hope you do not mind......I am trying to locate
ANY info on a couple of my ancestors with the surnames "LIENDO and DE LA
ROSA".....in the 1600-1725 time period or later. Would you mind looking in
these two books of yours to see if these surnames appear? Thanks so much!

Josie in San Antonio

-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.NuestrosRanchos.com
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.NuestrosRanchos.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Figueroa
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 12:50 PM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] "Padrón de población de Aguascalientes",
compiled in 1792 by Felix Calleja

According to the book by Jesús Gómez Serrano "Los españoles en
Aguascalientes durante la época colonial", in 1792 visiting dignitary José
Menéndez Valdés compiled a population census of the district of Guadalajara,
which underlines the importance that Aguascalientes had as a final
destination for many spanish and portuguese immigrants. Along the same
lines, the local "padrón de población" compiled by Félix Calleja in 1792,
confirms the data gathered by Menéndez Valdés and includes the name,
origin, age and occupation of european immigrants or "españoles" that lived
in Aguascalientes.

I believe that the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" can be a useful tool
for those of us doing genealogical research.
I believe that this family still lived on "Calle de la Merced" in 1792 and
would appreciate any information concerning the whereabouts of the original
"padron de 1792" or any other information about my ancestors. I can
reciprocate by looking up information about your ancestors on my copies of
the "padrón parroquial de 1770" and the first "padrón parroquial de 1648".

Guillermo Figueroa Strecker

Hi Bill!

Thanks for the quick response! Yes, the surname LIENDO is indeed a rare one
and very difficult to find! I know for a fact that they were in Zacatecas
in the late 1600s and very early 1700s but have yet to locate them. I have
been able to trace it from about 1725 to the present time and am now
concentrating on tearing down that brick wall.........but have had no such
luck! :-) Any assistance you or anyone else out there can give me will
certainly be appreciated!

Josie in San Antonio

-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.NuestrosRanchos.com
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.NuestrosRanchos.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Figueroa
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 2:47 PM
To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos]"Padrón de población de Aguascalientes",
compiled in 1792 by Felix Calleja

Hi Josie,

I checked the "padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes" of 1648 but could not
find a single person with the surname LIENDO or DE LA ROSA. Aguascalientes
was established in 1575 and by 1648 it was only a small village with less
than 1,000 inhabitans. By July 30, 1770 its population had grown to 19,661
people (3,620 families). The padrón of 1770 is organized by groups or
families, including "haciendas, ranchos y puestos". People who lived in
town are listed by street where they lived. There is no alphabetical index.

I have not checked the padrón of 1770, but I can tell you that I have never
seen the surname Liendo in any documents in Aguascalientes (or anywhere
else). De la Rosa is not so uncommon. There were people with that surname
in Aguascalientes since the early 1700s.

I'll let you know what I find later during the week.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: "Josie T. Trevino"
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos]"Padrón de población de Aguascalientes",
compiled in 1792 by Felix Calleja

Hi Bill!

I am going to take you up on your offer: ("I can reciprocate by looking up
information about your ancestors on my copies of the "padrón parroquial de
1770" and the first "padrón parroquial de 1648".) as posted in your e-mail
to our group today.......I hope you do not mind......I am trying to locate
ANY info on a couple of my ancestors with the surnames "LIENDO and DE LA
ROSA".....in the 1600-1725 time period or later. Would you mind looking in
these two books of yours to see if these surnames appear? Thanks so much!

Josie in San Antonio

-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.NuestrosRanchos.com
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.NuestrosRanchos.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Figueroa
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 12:50 PM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] "Padrón de población de Aguascalientes",
compiled in 1792 by Felix Calleja

According to the book by Jesús Gómez Serrano "Los españoles en
Aguascalientes durante la época colonial", in 1792 visiting dignitary José
Menéndez Valdés compiled a population census of the district of Guadalajara,
which underlines the importance that Aguascalientes had as a final
destination for many spanish and portuguese immigrants. Along the same
lines, the local "padrón de población" compiled by Félix Calleja in 1792,
confirms the data gathered by Menéndez Valdés and includes the name,
origin, age and occupation of european immigrants or "españoles" that lived
in Aguascalientes.

I believe that the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" can be a useful tool
for those of us doing genealogical research.
I believe that this family still lived on "Calle de la Merced" in 1792 and
would appreciate any information concerning the whereabouts of the original
"padron de 1792" or any other information about my ancestors. I can
reciprocate by looking up information about your ancestors on my copies of
the "padrón parroquial de 1770" and the first "padrón parroquial de 1648".

Guillermo Figueroa Strecker

Hi Juanita!

Yes, there are some people in Brownsville and the area named LIENDO but I
have already researched all the "recent" Liendos.......I am now trying to
find the "really old ones" from the 1600s and early 1700s......:-) I met
with Senator Eddie Lucio's sister a few years ago and we compared our
research. Actually we all come from the same elusive 1700 ancestor......I
have been working on this one for years.....with no luck. Thanks for the
info......I appreciate your interest. I am also doing extensive research in
the Brownsville/Matamoros area.....are you from there? I have about 10
different lines from that area, mostly in the early to mid 1800s.

Thanks again!

Josie in San Antonio

-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.NuestrosRanchos.com
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.NuestrosRanchos.com] On Behalf Of juanita
delgado
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 3:59 PM
To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] "Padrón de población de Aguascalientes",
compiled in 1792 by Felix Calleja

I read where Josie Trevino is looking for LIENDO and DE LA ROSA.

There are a few people living in Brownsville,TExas, with those last names,
but dont't know if they are related to your family. There was a Juan
Liendo. Josefa Liendo is the mother of Texas State Senator Eddie Lucio, and
I understand they have done extensive research on their family, butdon't
know if it is on the LIENDOS OR the
LUCIOS.

JUANITA G. DELGADO

Hi everybody. We drifted away from the original question (below) before an
answer was provided. Please let me know if you have any information or know
how to get a copy of the Padrón de Población de Aguascalientes of 1792.

According to the book by Jesús Gómez Serrano "Los españoles en
Aguascalientes durante la época colonial", in 1792 visiting dignitary José
Menéndez Valdés compiled a population census of the district of Guadalajara,
which underlines the importance that Aguascalientes had as a final
destination for many Spanish and Portuguese immigrants. Along the same
lines, the local "padrón de población" compiled by Félix Calleja in 1792,
confirms the data gathered by Menéndez Valdés and includes the name,
origin, age and occupation of european immigrants or "españoles" that lived
in Aguascalientes.

I believe that the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" can be a useful tool
for those of us doing genealogical research. Although I am interested in
several families who lived in Aguascalientes at that time, the most
important for me is the family of my 4th great-grandparents Vicente Ruiz de
Esparza and Rafaela Trillo y Delgado (his 2nd wife). According to the
"Padrón de Aguascalientes of 1770", Vicente and his first wife Catharina de
Orosco y Ralla lived in a house located on "Calle de la Merced" with their
24-year old son Joseph Cayetano Ruiz de Esparza. After his first wife died
in 1775, Vicente remarried and had four sons from his second marriage, among
them my 3rd. great-grandfather Francisco Antonio Abad Ruiz de Esparza, born
in Aguascalientes in 1781. Both Vicente Ruiz de Esparza and Rafaela Trillo
y Delgado died in 1797.

I believe that this family still lived on "Calle de la Merced" in 1792, and
would appreciate any information concerning the whereabouts of the original
"padron de 1792" or any other information about my ancestors. I can
reciprocate by looking up information about your ancestors on my copies of
the "padrón parroquial de 1770" and the first "padrón parroquial de 1648".

Thanks,

Guillermo Figueroa Strecker

If you live close to MA or NJ or if they are willing to do an ILL here
is the info on the Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes, 1770

Bill is this the same book you own?

joseph

==================================

Location Library Code
US,MA UNIV OF MASSACHUSETTS AMHERST AUM
US,NJ PRINCETON UNIV PUL

Title: Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes, 1770 /
Author(s): Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,; 1936-
Corp Author(s): Archivo Histórico del Estado de Aguascalientes.
Publication: [Aguascalientes, Mexico] : Archivo Histórico de
Aguascalientes,
Year: 2001
Description: 306 p. : ill. ; 22 cm.
Language: Spanish
SUBJECT(S)
Descriptor: Church records and registers -- Mexico -- Aguascalientes.
Parishes -- Mexico -- Aguascalientes -- History -- Sources.
Geographic: Aguascalientes (Mexico) -- Population -- History --
Sources.
Aguascalientes (Mexico) -- History -- Sources.
Class Descriptors: LC: CD3678.A2
Responsibility: estudio introductorio del Dr. José Antonio Gutiérrez
Gutiérrez.
Document Type: Book
Entry: 20060628
Update: 20060628
Accession No: OCLC: 70203331
Database: WorldCat

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Bill Figueroa wrote:
> Hi everybody. We drifted away from the original question (below) before an
> answer was provided. Please let me know if you have any information or know
> how to get a copy of the Padrón de Población de Aguascalientes of 1792.
>
> According to the book by Jesús Gómez Serrano "Los españoles en
> Aguascalientes durante la época colonial", in 1792 visiting dignitary José
> Menéndez Valdés compiled a population census of the district of Guadalajara,
> which underlines the importance that Aguascalientes had as a final
> destination for many Spanish and Portuguese immigrants. Along the same
> lines, the local "padrón de población" compiled by Félix Calleja in 1792,
> confirms the data gathered by Menéndez Valdés and includes the name,
> origin, age and occupation of european immigrants or "españoles" that lived
> in Aguascalientes.
>
> I believe that the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" can be a useful tool
> for those of us doing genealogical research. Although I am interested in
> several families who lived in Aguascalientes at that time, the most
> important for me is the family of my 4th great-grandparents Vicente Ruiz de
> Esparza and Rafaela Trillo y Delgado (his 2nd wife). According to the
> "Padrón de Aguascalientes of 1770", Vicente and his first wife Catharina de
> Orosco y Ralla lived in a house located on "Calle de la Merced" with their
> 24-year old son Joseph Cayetano Ruiz de Esparza. After his first wife died
> in 1775, Vicente remarried and had four sons from his second marriage, among
> them my 3rd. great-grandfather Francisco Antonio Abad Ruiz de Esparza, born
> in Aguascalientes in 1781. Both Vicente Ruiz de Esparza and Rafaela Trillo
> y Delgado died in 1797.
>
> I believe that this family still lived on "Calle de la Merced" in 1792, and
> would appreciate any information concerning the whereabouts of the original
> "padron de 1792" or any other information about my ancestors. I can
> reciprocate by looking up information about your ancestors on my copies of
> the "padrón parroquial de 1770" and the first "padrón parroquial de 1648".
>
> Thanks,
>
> Guillermo Figueroa Strecker
>

Joseph,

That is exactly the book I have ("Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes,
1770"). I also have a copy of the "padrón parroquial" of 1648. What I'm
looking for is the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" (notice that this
version is not "parroquial" or of religious nature). As far as I know, it
has NOT been published in book form. Also, it should be more complete than
the 1770 version, as it not only includes names and addresses, but place of
origin, age and occupation of persons living in Aguascalientes in 1792.

Best regards and Marry Christmas,

Bill

>> in Aguascalientes
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Puentes"
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:00 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Aguascalientes: Books by Gutiérrez Gutiérrez,
José Antonio

> If you live close to MA or NJ or if they are willing to do an ILL here
> is the info on the Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes, 1770
>
> Bill is this the same book you own?
>
> joseph
>
> ==================================
>
> Location Library Code
> US,MA UNIV OF MASSACHUSETTS AMHERST AUM
> US,NJ PRINCETON UNIV PUL
>
> Title: Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes, 1770 /
> Author(s): Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,; 1936-
> Corp Author(s): Archivo Histórico del Estado de Aguascalientes.
> Publication: [Aguascalientes, Mexico] : Archivo Histórico de
> Aguascalientes,
> Year: 2001
> Description: 306 p. : ill. ; 22 cm.
> Language: Spanish
> SUBJECT(S)
> Descriptor: Church records and registers -- Mexico -- Aguascalientes.
> Parishes -- Mexico -- Aguascalientes -- History -- Sources.
> Geographic: Aguascalientes (Mexico) -- Population -- History --
> Sources.
> Aguascalientes (Mexico) -- History -- Sources.
> Class Descriptors: LC: CD3678.A2
> Responsibility: estudio introductorio del Dr. José Antonio Gutiérrez
> Gutiérrez.
> Document Type: Book
> Entry: 20060628
> Update: 20060628
> Accession No: OCLC: 70203331
> Database: WorldCat
>
> ===========================
>
> other books by Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio
>
> 1. Book Los Altos de Jalisco :
> panorama histórico de una región y de su sociedad hasta 1821 /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
> Publication: México, D.F. : Consejo Nacional para la Cultura y las
> Artes, 1991
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 39
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
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> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
> 2. Book Historia de la Iglesia católica en Aguascalientes /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
> Publication: México : [Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes], 1999-?
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 28
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
> Advanced options ...
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> 3. Book Colección de documentos para la historia de la Diócesis de
> Aguascalientes /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,
> Publication: [Aguascalientes] : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes :
> Obispado de Aguascalientes ; [Guadalajara] : Universidad de Guadalajara,
> 1999-
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 25
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
> Advanced options ...
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> 4. Book Aguascalientes y su región de influencia hasta 1810 :
> sociedad y política /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
> Publication: [Guadalajara, Mexico?] : Sistema de Educación Media
> Superior de la Universidad de Guadalajara : Amigos de la Historia de los
> Altos de Jalisco, 1998
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 16
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
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> 5. Book Infundios contra San Cristóbal de las Casas :
> condiciones sociales de los indígenas en esta ciudad /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
> Publication: México, D.F. : Miguel Ángel Porrúa ; [Chiapas, México?] :
> Fundación Chiapaneca Colosio, 1996
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 14
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
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> 6. Book La labor social de la Iglesia Católica en Aguascalientes /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
> Publication: Aguascalientes, Ags. : Instituto Cultural de
> Aguascalientes, 1997
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 9
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
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> 7. Book Jalostotitlán a través de los siglos /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
> Publication: [Aguascalientes, Mexico] : Comisión Editorial, Universidad
> Autónoma de Aguascalientes ; [Guadalajara, Mexico] : Universidad de
> Guadalajara : Acento Editores : Amate Editorial, 1985-2005
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 9
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
> Advanced options ...
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> 8. Book El siervo de Dios, monseñor José de Jesús López y González /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
> Publication: [Aguascalientes] : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes,
> 2003
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 8
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
> Advanced options ...
> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
> 9. Book Decires y contradicciones de un caudillo insurgente :
> P. Pablo José Calvillo (1772-1816), del Valle de Huajúcar, hoy Calvillo,
> Aguascalientes /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-; González Pérez, Cándido.
> Publication: [Guadalajara, Mexico] : Centro Universitario de los Altos,
> Universidad de Guadalajara, 1997
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 7
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
> Advanced options ...
> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
> 10. Book Jalostotitlán a través de los siglos /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
> Publication: [Guadalajara] : Universidad de Guadalajara ;
> [Aguascalientes] : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes ; Guad. Jal.
> [i.e. Guadalajara] : Acento Editores, 2001-2005
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 7
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
> Advanced options ...
> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
> Book Pinceladas históricas acatiquenses /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-; González Pérez,
> Cándido.; González Pérez, Ana Rosa.
> Publication: [México : s.n., 1997
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 6
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
> Advanced options ...
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> 12. Book El pasado en el presente de Ocampo /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
> Publication: [Mexico] : Municipio de Ocampo, Gto. : Instituto Estatal de
> la Cultura : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes, 2000
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 4
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
> Advanced options ...
> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
> 13. Book Pinceladas históricas acatiquenses /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-; González Pérez,
> Cándido.; González Pérez, Ana Rosa.
> Publication: México : [s.n.], 1998
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 4
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
> Advanced options ...
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> 14. Book Historia de la Iglesia Católica en Aguascalientes /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
> Publication: [Aguascalientes] : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes :
> Obispado de Aguascalientes ; [Guadalajara] : Universidad de Guadalajara,
> 1999-2003
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 4
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
> Advanced options ...
> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
> 15. Book Los cuadernos de visita del laguense Mateo José de
> Arteaga a 17 pueblos del sur de Jalisco en 1767 /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,
> Publication: [Guadalajara] : Universidad de Guadalajara, 1999
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 3
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> 16. Book Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes, 1770 /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,
> Publication: [Aguascalientes, Mexico] : Archivo Histórico de
> Aguascalientes, 2001
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 2
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
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> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
> 17. Book Los Gutiérrez de la Media Hanega de Xalostotitlán : los
> orígenes /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936- Publication: [Altos de
> Jalisco] : Amigos de la Historia de los Altos de Jalisco, 1900s
> Document: Spanish : Book Archival Material Archival Material
> Libraries Worldwide: 1
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
> Advanced options ...
> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
> 18. Book Cuadro general estadístico de San Miguel de los Alcalanes :
> 1879 edición oficial /
> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,; Martínez Saldaña, Tomás.
> Publication: [Guadalajara] : Centro Universitario de los Altos, 1997, 1879
> Document: Spanish : Book
> Libraries Worldwide: 1
> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
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>
>
>
> Bill Figueroa wrote:
>> Hi everybody. We drifted away from the original question (below) before
>> an
>> answer was provided. Please let me know if you have any information or
>> know
>> how to get a copy of the Padrón de Población de Aguascalientes of 1792.
>>
>> According to the book by Jesús Gómez Serrano "Los españoles en
>> Aguascalientes durante la época colonial", in 1792 visiting dignitary
>> José
>> Menéndez Valdés compiled a population census of the district of
>> Guadalajara,
>> which underlines the importance that Aguascalientes had as a final
>> destination for many Spanish and Portuguese immigrants. Along the same
>> lines, the local "padrón de población" compiled by Félix Calleja in 1792,
>> confirms the data gathered by Menéndez Valdés and includes the name,
>> origin, age and occupation of european immigrants or "españoles" that
>> lived
>> in Aguascalientes.
>>
>> I believe that the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" can be a useful
>> tool
>> for those of us doing genealogical research. Although I am interested in
>> several families who lived in Aguascalientes at that time, the most
>> important for me is the family of my 4th great-grandparents Vicente Ruiz
>> de
>> Esparza and Rafaela Trillo y Delgado (his 2nd wife). According to the
>> "Padrón de Aguascalientes of 1770", Vicente and his first wife Catharina
>> de
>> Orosco y Ralla lived in a house located on "Calle de la Merced" with
>> their
>> 24-year old son Joseph Cayetano Ruiz de Esparza. After his first wife
>> died
>> in 1775, Vicente remarried and had four sons from his second marriage,
>> among
>> them my 3rd. great-grandfather Francisco Antonio Abad Ruiz de Esparza,
>> born
>> in Aguascalientes in 1781. Both Vicente Ruiz de Esparza and Rafaela
>> Trillo
>> y Delgado died in 1797.
>>
>> I believe that this family still lived on "Calle de la Merced" in 1792,
>> and
>> would appreciate any information concerning the whereabouts of the
>> original
>> "padron de 1792" or any other information about my ancestors. I can
>> reciprocate by looking up information about your ancestors on my copies
>> of
>> the "padrón parroquial de 1770" and the first "padrón parroquial de
>> 1648".
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Guillermo Figueroa Strecker
>>
>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>
>> To post, send email to:
>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
>>
>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
>>
>>

Bill you are probably already familiar with this info but have a look in
the files-->Books and Articles-->Census Records for Latin America by
Lyman Platt-->http://www.nuestrosranchos.com/node/15262

for some info from Dr. Platt's book on Latin American Census records.
Look at the Aguas pages 1-4 in two parts for info on the 1792 census.

joseph

===================

Joseph Puentes
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Bill Figueroa wrote:
> Joseph,
>
> That is exactly the book I have ("Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes,
> 1770"). I also have a copy of the "padrón parroquial" of 1648. What I'm
> looking for is the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" (notice that this
> version is not "parroquial" or of religious nature). As far as I know, it
> has NOT been published in book form. Also, it should be more complete than
> the 1770 version, as it not only includes names and addresses, but place of
> origin, age and occupation of persons living in Aguascalientes in 1792.
>
> Best regards and Marry Christmas,
>
> Bill
>
>
>>> in Aguascalientes
>>>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Puentes"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:00 AM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Aguascalientes: Books by Gutiérrez Gutiérrez,
> José Antonio
>
>
>
>> If you live close to MA or NJ or if they are willing to do an ILL here
>> is the info on the Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes, 1770
>>
>> Bill is this the same book you own?
>>
>> joseph
>>
>> ==================================
>>
>> Location Library Code
>> US,MA UNIV OF MASSACHUSETTS AMHERST AUM
>> US,NJ PRINCETON UNIV PUL
>>
>> Title: Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes, 1770 /
>> Author(s): Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,; 1936-
>> Corp Author(s): Archivo Histórico del Estado de Aguascalientes.
>> Publication: [Aguascalientes, Mexico] : Archivo Histórico de
>> Aguascalientes,
>> Year: 2001
>> Description: 306 p. : ill. ; 22 cm.
>> Language: Spanish
>> SUBJECT(S)
>> Descriptor: Church records and registers -- Mexico -- Aguascalientes.
>> Parishes -- Mexico -- Aguascalientes -- History -- Sources.
>> Geographic: Aguascalientes (Mexico) -- Population -- History --
>> Sources.
>> Aguascalientes (Mexico) -- History -- Sources.
>> Class Descriptors: LC: CD3678.A2
>> Responsibility: estudio introductorio del Dr. José Antonio Gutiérrez
>> Gutiérrez.
>> Document Type: Book
>> Entry: 20060628
>> Update: 20060628
>> Accession No: OCLC: 70203331
>> Database: WorldCat
>>
>> ===========================
>>
>> other books by Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio
>>
>> 1. Book Los Altos de Jalisco :
>> panorama histórico de una región y de su sociedad hasta 1821 /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>> Publication: México, D.F. : Consejo Nacional para la Cultura y las
>> Artes, 1991
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 39
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 2. Book Historia de la Iglesia católica en Aguascalientes /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>> Publication: México : [Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes], 1999-?
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 28
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 3. Book Colección de documentos para la historia de la Diócesis de
>> Aguascalientes /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,
>> Publication: [Aguascalientes] : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes :
>> Obispado de Aguascalientes ; [Guadalajara] : Universidad de Guadalajara,
>> 1999-
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 25
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 4. Book Aguascalientes y su región de influencia hasta 1810 :
>> sociedad y política /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>> Publication: [Guadalajara, Mexico?] : Sistema de Educación Media
>> Superior de la Universidad de Guadalajara : Amigos de la Historia de los
>> Altos de Jalisco, 1998
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 16
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 5. Book Infundios contra San Cristóbal de las Casas :
>> condiciones sociales de los indígenas en esta ciudad /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>> Publication: México, D.F. : Miguel Ángel Porrúa ; [Chiapas, México?] :
>> Fundación Chiapaneca Colosio, 1996
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 14
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 6. Book La labor social de la Iglesia Católica en Aguascalientes /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>> Publication: Aguascalientes, Ags. : Instituto Cultural de
>> Aguascalientes, 1997
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 9
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 7. Book Jalostotitlán a través de los siglos /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>> Publication: [Aguascalientes, Mexico] : Comisión Editorial, Universidad
>> Autónoma de Aguascalientes ; [Guadalajara, Mexico] : Universidad de
>> Guadalajara : Acento Editores : Amate Editorial, 1985-2005
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 9
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 8. Book El siervo de Dios, monseñor José de Jesús López y González /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>> Publication: [Aguascalientes] : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes,
>> 2003
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 8
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 9. Book Decires y contradicciones de un caudillo insurgente :
>> P. Pablo José Calvillo (1772-1816), del Valle de Huajúcar, hoy Calvillo,
>> Aguascalientes /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-; González Pérez, Cándido.
>> Publication: [Guadalajara, Mexico] : Centro Universitario de los Altos,
>> Universidad de Guadalajara, 1997
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 7
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 10. Book Jalostotitlán a través de los siglos /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>> Publication: [Guadalajara] : Universidad de Guadalajara ;
>> [Aguascalientes] : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes ; Guad. Jal.
>> [i.e. Guadalajara] : Acento Editores, 2001-2005
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 7
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> Book Pinceladas históricas acatiquenses /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-; González Pérez,
>> Cándido.; González Pérez, Ana Rosa.
>> Publication: [México : s.n., 1997
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 6
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 12. Book El pasado en el presente de Ocampo /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>> Publication: [Mexico] : Municipio de Ocampo, Gto. : Instituto Estatal de
>> la Cultura : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes, 2000
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 4
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 13. Book Pinceladas históricas acatiquenses /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-; González Pérez,
>> Cándido.; González Pérez, Ana Rosa.
>> Publication: México : [s.n.], 1998
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 4
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 14. Book Historia de la Iglesia Católica en Aguascalientes /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>> Publication: [Aguascalientes] : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes :
>> Obispado de Aguascalientes ; [Guadalajara] : Universidad de Guadalajara,
>> 1999-2003
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 4
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 15. Book Los cuadernos de visita del laguense Mateo José de
>> Arteaga a 17 pueblos del sur de Jalisco en 1767 /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,
>> Publication: [Guadalajara] : Universidad de Guadalajara, 1999
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 3
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 16. Book Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes, 1770 /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,
>> Publication: [Aguascalientes, Mexico] : Archivo Histórico de
>> Aguascalientes, 2001
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 2
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 17. Book Los Gutiérrez de la Media Hanega de Xalostotitlán : los
>> orígenes /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936- Publication: [Altos de
>> Jalisco] : Amigos de la Historia de los Altos de Jalisco, 1900s
>> Document: Spanish : Book Archival Material Archival Material
>> Libraries Worldwide: 1
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>> 18. Book Cuadro general estadístico de San Miguel de los Alcalanes :
>> 1879 edición oficial /
>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,; Martínez Saldaña, Tomás.
>> Publication: [Guadalajara] : Centro Universitario de los Altos, 1997, 1879
>> Document: Spanish : Book
>> Libraries Worldwide: 1
>> More Like This: Search for versions with same title and author |
>> Advanced options ...
>> Get This Item See more details for locating this item
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Figueroa wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everybody. We drifted away from the original question (below) before
>>> an
>>> answer was provided. Please let me know if you have any information or
>>> know
>>> how to get a copy of the Padrón de Población de Aguascalientes of 1792.
>>>
>>> According to the book by Jesús Gómez Serrano "Los españoles en
>>> Aguascalientes durante la época colonial", in 1792 visiting dignitary
>>> José
>>> Menéndez Valdés compiled a population census of the district of
>>> Guadalajara,
>>> which underlines the importance that Aguascalientes had as a final
>>> destination for many Spanish and Portuguese immigrants. Along the same
>>> lines, the local "padrón de población" compiled by Félix Calleja in 1792,
>>> confirms the data gathered by Menéndez Valdés and includes the name,
>>> origin, age and occupation of european immigrants or "españoles" that
>>> lived
>>> in Aguascalientes.
>>>
>>> I believe that the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" can be a useful
>>> tool
>>> for those of us doing genealogical research. Although I am interested in
>>> several families who lived in Aguascalientes at that time, the most
>>> important for me is the family of my 4th great-grandparents Vicente Ruiz
>>> de
>>> Esparza and Rafaela Trillo y Delgado (his 2nd wife). According to the
>>> "Padrón de Aguascalientes of 1770", Vicente and his first wife Catharina
>>> de
>>> Orosco y Ralla lived in a house located on "Calle de la Merced" with
>>> their
>>> 24-year old son Joseph Cayetano Ruiz de Esparza. After his first wife
>>> died
>>> in 1775, Vicente remarried and had four sons from his second marriage,
>>> among
>>> them my 3rd. great-grandfather Francisco Antonio Abad Ruiz de Esparza,
>>> born
>>> in Aguascalientes in 1781. Both Vicente Ruiz de Esparza and Rafaela
>>> Trillo
>>> y Delgado died in 1797.
>>>
>>> I believe that this family still lived on "Calle de la Merced" in 1792,
>>> and
>>> would appreciate any information concerning the whereabouts of the
>>> original
>>> "padron de 1792" or any other information about my ancestors. I can
>>> reciprocate by looking up information about your ancestors on my copies
>>> of
>>> the "padrón parroquial de 1770" and the first "padrón parroquial de
>>> 1648".
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Guillermo Figueroa Strecker
>>>
>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>
>>> To post, send email to:
>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>
>>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>>> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>
>>>
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>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
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Joseph,

Thank you very much for the information. According to the "Census Records
for Latin America..." by Lyman D. Platt, the "Padrón de Aguascalientes de
1792" is at the Archivo General de la Nación in Mexico City. The microfilm
is listed at FamilySearch under Padrones de México, 1752-1865 México.
Dirección General de Estadística. Ramo de Padrones. FHL INTL Film No.
1520345 Vol. 4, 1800, 1792 Vol 5-6 and possibly Film 1520346 1792 Vol. 6-7,
1791 Vol. 8. I will order the first one from Salt Lake City when our local
FHC reopens next week.

Hope your Christmas was a happy and peaceful one. Again, thank you very
much for your assistance.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Puentes"
To:
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Aguascalientes: Books by Gutiérrez
Gutiérrez, José Antonio

> Bill you are probably already familiar with this info but have a look in
> the files-->Books and Articles-->Census Records for Latin America by
> Lyman Platt-->http://www.nuestrosranchos.com/node/15262
>
> for some info from Dr. Platt's book on Latin American Census records.
> Look at the Aguas pages 1-4 in two parts for info on the 1792 census.
>
> joseph
>
> ===================
>
> Joseph Puentes
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>
> Bill Figueroa wrote:
>> Joseph,
>>
>> That is exactly the book I have ("Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes,
>> 1770"). I also have a copy of the "padrón parroquial" of 1648. What I'm
>> looking for is the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" (notice that this
>> version is not "parroquial" or of religious nature). As far as I know,
>> it
>> has NOT been published in book form. Also, it should be more complete
>> than
>> the 1770 version, as it not only includes names and addresses, but place
>> of
>> origin, age and occupation of persons living in Aguascalientes in 1792.
>>
>> Best regards and Marry Christmas,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>>> in Aguascalientes
>>>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joseph Puentes"
>> To:
>> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:00 AM
>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Aguascalientes: Books by Gutiérrez Gutiérrez,
>> José Antonio
>>
>>
>>
>>> If you live close to MA or NJ or if they are willing to do an ILL here
>>> is the info on the Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes, 1770
>>>
>>> Bill is this the same book you own?
>>>
>>> joseph
>>>
>>> ==================================
>>>
>>> Location Library Code
>>> US,MA UNIV OF MASSACHUSETTS AMHERST AUM
>>> US,NJ PRINCETON UNIV PUL
>>>
>>> Title: Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes, 1770 /
>>> Author(s): Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,; 1936-
>>> Corp Author(s): Archivo Histórico del Estado de Aguascalientes.
>>> Publication: [Aguascalientes, Mexico] : Archivo Histórico de
>>> Aguascalientes,
>>> Year: 2001
>>> Description: 306 p. : ill. ; 22 cm.
>>> Language: Spanish
>>> SUBJECT(S)
>>> Descriptor: Church records and registers -- Mexico --
>>> Aguascalientes.
>>> Parishes -- Mexico -- Aguascalientes -- History -- Sources.
>>> Geographic: Aguascalientes (Mexico) -- Population -- History --
>>> Sources.
>>> Aguascalientes (Mexico) -- History -- Sources.
>>> Class Descriptors: LC: CD3678.A2
>>> Responsibility: estudio introductorio del Dr. José Antonio Gutiérrez
>>> Gutiérrez.
>>> Document Type: Book
>>> Entry: 20060628
>>> Update: 20060628
>>> Accession No: OCLC: 70203331
>>> Database: WorldCat
>>>
>>> ===========================
>>>
>>> other books by Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio
>>>
>>> 1. Book Los Altos de Jalisco :
>>> panorama histórico de una región y de su sociedad hasta 1821 /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>>> Publication: México, D.F. : Consejo Nacional para la Cultura y las
>>> Artes, 1991
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 39
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>>> 2. Book Historia de la Iglesia católica en Aguascalientes /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>>> Publication: México : [Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes], 1999-?
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 28
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>>> 3. Book Colección de documentos para la historia de la Diócesis de
>>> Aguascalientes /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,
>>> Publication: [Aguascalientes] : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes :
>>> Obispado de Aguascalientes ; [Guadalajara] : Universidad de Guadalajara,
>>> 1999-
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 25
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>>> 4. Book Aguascalientes y su región de influencia hasta 1810 :
>>> sociedad y política /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>>> Publication: [Guadalajara, Mexico?] : Sistema de Educación Media
>>> Superior de la Universidad de Guadalajara : Amigos de la Historia de los
>>> Altos de Jalisco, 1998
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 16
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>>> 5. Book Infundios contra San Cristóbal de las Casas :
>>> condiciones sociales de los indígenas en esta ciudad /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>>> Publication: México, D.F. : Miguel Ángel Porrúa ; [Chiapas, México?] :
>>> Fundación Chiapaneca Colosio, 1996
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 14
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>>> 6. Book La labor social de la Iglesia Católica en Aguascalientes /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>>> Publication: Aguascalientes, Ags. : Instituto Cultural de
>>> Aguascalientes, 1997
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 9
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>>> 7. Book Jalostotitlán a través de los siglos /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>>> Publication: [Aguascalientes, Mexico] : Comisión Editorial, Universidad
>>> Autónoma de Aguascalientes ; [Guadalajara, Mexico] : Universidad de
>>> Guadalajara : Acento Editores : Amate Editorial, 1985-2005
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 9
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>>> 8. Book El siervo de Dios, monseñor José de Jesús López y González
>>> /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>>> Publication: [Aguascalientes] : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes,
>>> 2003
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 8
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>>> 9. Book Decires y contradicciones de un caudillo insurgente :
>>> P. Pablo José Calvillo (1772-1816), del Valle de Huajúcar, hoy Calvillo,
>>> Aguascalientes /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-; González Pérez,
>>> Cándido.
>>> Publication: [Guadalajara, Mexico] : Centro Universitario de los Altos,
>>> Universidad de Guadalajara, 1997
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 7
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>>> 10. Book Jalostotitlán a través de los siglos /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>>> Publication: [Guadalajara] : Universidad de Guadalajara ;
>>> [Aguascalientes] : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes ; Guad. Jal.
>>> [i.e. Guadalajara] : Acento Editores, 2001-2005
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 7
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>>> Book Pinceladas históricas acatiquenses /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-; González Pérez,
>>> Cándido.; González Pérez, Ana Rosa.
>>> Publication: [México : s.n., 1997
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 6
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>>> 12. Book El pasado en el presente de Ocampo /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>>> Publication: [Mexico] : Municipio de Ocampo, Gto. : Instituto Estatal de
>>> la Cultura : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes, 2000
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 4
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>>> 13. Book Pinceladas históricas acatiquenses /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-; González Pérez,
>>> Cándido.; González Pérez, Ana Rosa.
>>> Publication: México : [s.n.], 1998
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 4
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>>> 14. Book Historia de la Iglesia Católica en Aguascalientes /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936-
>>> Publication: [Aguascalientes] : Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes :
>>> Obispado de Aguascalientes ; [Guadalajara] : Universidad de Guadalajara,
>>> 1999-2003
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 4
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>>> 15. Book Los cuadernos de visita del laguense Mateo José de
>>> Arteaga a 17 pueblos del sur de Jalisco en 1767 /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,
>>> Publication: [Guadalajara] : Universidad de Guadalajara, 1999
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 3
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>>> 16. Book Padrón parroquial de Aguascalientes, 1770 /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,
>>> Publication: [Aguascalientes, Mexico] : Archivo Histórico de
>>> Aguascalientes, 2001
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 2
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>>> 17. Book Los Gutiérrez de la Media Hanega de Xalostotitlán : los
>>> orígenes /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio, 1936- Publication: [Altos de
>>> Jalisco] : Amigos de la Historia de los Altos de Jalisco, 1900s
>>> Document: Spanish : Book Archival Material Archival Material
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 1
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>>> 18. Book Cuadro general estadístico de San Miguel de los Alcalanes
>>> :
>>> 1879 edición oficial /
>>> Author: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio,; Martínez Saldaña, Tomás.
>>> Publication: [Guadalajara] : Centro Universitario de los Altos, 1997,
>>> 1879
>>> Document: Spanish : Book
>>> Libraries Worldwide: 1
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill Figueroa wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everybody. We drifted away from the original question (below)
>>>> before
>>>> an
>>>> answer was provided. Please let me know if you have any information or
>>>> know
>>>> how to get a copy of the Padrón de Población de Aguascalientes of 1792.
>>>>
>>>> According to the book by Jesús Gómez Serrano "Los españoles en
>>>> Aguascalientes durante la época colonial", in 1792 visiting dignitary
>>>> José
>>>> Menéndez Valdés compiled a population census of the district of
>>>> Guadalajara,
>>>> which underlines the importance that Aguascalientes had as a final
>>>> destination for many Spanish and Portuguese immigrants. Along the same
>>>> lines, the local "padrón de población" compiled by Félix Calleja in
>>>> 1792,
>>>> confirms the data gathered by Menéndez Valdés and includes the name,
>>>> origin, age and occupation of european immigrants or "españoles" that
>>>> lived
>>>> in Aguascalientes.
>>>>
>>>> I believe that the "Padron de Aguascalientes of 1792" can be a useful
>>>> tool
>>>> for those of us doing genealogical research. Although I am interested
>>>> in
>>>> several families who lived in Aguascalientes at that time, the most
>>>> important for me is the family of my 4th great-grandparents Vicente
>>>> Ruiz
>>>> de
>>>> Esparza and Rafaela Trillo y Delgado (his 2nd wife). According to the
>>>> "Padrón de Aguascalientes of 1770", Vicente and his first wife
>>>> Catharina
>>>> de
>>>> Orosco y Ralla lived in a house located on "Calle de la Merced" with
>>>> their
>>>> 24-year old son Joseph Cayetano Ruiz de Esparza. After his first wife
>>>> died
>>>> in 1775, Vicente remarried and had four sons from his second marriage,
>>>> among
>>>> them my 3rd. great-grandfather Francisco Antonio Abad Ruiz de Esparza,
>>>> born
>>>> in Aguascalientes in 1781. Both Vicente Ruiz de Esparza and Rafaela
>>>> Trillo
>>>> y Delgado died in 1797.
>>>>
>>>> I believe that this family still lived on "Calle de la Merced" in 1792,
>>>> and
>>>> would appreciate any information concerning the whereabouts of the
>>>> original
>>>> "padron de 1792" or any other information about my ancestors. I can
>>>> reciprocate by looking up information about your ancestors on my copies
>>>> of
>>>> the "padrón parroquial de 1770" and the first "padrón parroquial de
>>>> 1648".
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Guillermo Figueroa Strecker
>>>>
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