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By ayalarobles - Posted on 02 December 2006

Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some children of Diego Tevino and
Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think Francisca Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino Fernandez Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
--
Esther A. Herold

-------------- Original message from rosa9972 : --------------

>
> Hi Linda and Joseph--
>
> Yes, Linda, your aunt is related to me and Joseph through the Banuelos family.
> I have her ancestry for some generations back. I collect as much information
> on the Banuelos and related families of Huejucar, Jalisco. I'll email you off
> the group so we can exchange information.
>
> So far I have your aunt as my 3rd cousin once removed, and Joseph as her 5th
> cousin once removed. Almost all of the Banuelos from Huejucar are related and
> are from Rancho Las Bocas.
>
> Rosalinda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Puentes
> Sent: Dec 1, 2006 6:22 PM
> To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
> Cc: "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos and Quesada in Huejucar Jalisco
>
> Rosalinda. . .Rosalinda,
>
> Looks like some more cousins. Rosalinda and I are Ba

It's a myth that Diego Trevino is descended from Bernardino Fernandez
Velasco. I once thought that he was, too! But when I went searching
for verification, it appears that he isn't. I'm a descendant of Diego
and Francisca so I was interested. Where did you get your info about
Francisca Alcocer being descended from Henry II and Eleanor of
Aquitaine? I'd love to know. Marge :)
On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:32 AM, eaherold@att.net wrote:

> Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some
> children of Diego Tevino and
> Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think Francisca
> Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to
> Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
> DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one
> moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of
> parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
> John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino Fernandez
> Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
> Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of
> Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
> --
> Esther A. Herold
>
>
> -------------- Original message from rosa9972
> : --------------
>
>
>>
>> Hi Linda and Joseph--
>>
>> Yes, Linda, your aunt is related to me and Joseph through the
>> Banuelos family.
>> I have her ancestry for some generations back. I collect as much
>> information
>> on the Banuelos and related families of Huejucar, Jalisco. I'll email
>> you off
>> the group so we can exchange information.
>>
>> So far I have your aunt as my 3rd cousin once removed, and Joseph as
>> her 5th
>> cousin once removed. Almost all of the Banuelos from Huejucar are
>> related and
>> are from Rancho Las Bocas.
>>
>> Rosalinda
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joseph Puentes
>> Sent: Dec 1, 2006 6:22 PM
>> To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
>> Cc: "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos and Quesada in Huejucar
>> Jalisco
>>
>> Rosalinda. . .Rosalinda,
>>
>> Looks like some more cousins. Rosalinda and I are Bañuelos and she
>> is a
>> Quesada. probably we'll tie into your Aunt's family (our cousins).
>> Rosalinda will know for sure.
>>
>> joseph
>>
>> ===================
>>
>> Joseph Puentes
>> http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
>> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)
>>
>> longsjourney wrote:
>>> I'm not familiar with the town of Huejucar Jalisco but my Aunt who's
>>> family is
>> from there has asked if I could find anything on her families there.
>>> Her parents were Salvador Banuelos and Emma Madrid no dates but
>>> approx. 1900
>> in Huejucar
>>> Salvadors parent Issac Banuelos and Teodora or Todora Flores abt 1875
>>> Teodora Flores's parents were Marcos Flores and Andrea Sandoval
>>> married 19 Feb
>> 1867 in Huejucar
>>> Salvadors parents were Santos Banuelos and Leonides Quesada married
>>> 20 April
>> 1871 in Huejucar.
>>>
>>> I've found children for these parents but no parents for Santos
>>> Banuelos or
>> Leonides Quesada. My Aunt was told that Santos father was Francisco
>> Banuelos
>> from Spain but I've found nothing to prove that. Is anyone working
>> any of these
>> lines from Huejucar Jalisco Mexico?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Linda in Everett
>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>
>>> To post, send email to:
>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>
>>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>>> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>
>>

Again my source is John Inclan. I am inclined to believe that is a myth also. All I know that has been
verified from records in Jalisco is that Francisca Alcocer died there and that the Banuelos families and the Trevinos are part of the same family.

Marge, could you share your information that convinced you that the connection to Bernardino Fernandez Velasco is a myth? Inclan mentioned a lot of books which I have been tr ying to get on interlibrary loan. THese books deal with early colonists in Mexico.I still think there are worthwhile looking at. He mentioned books at various sites where he has been posting the Trevino lineage.

Also many people list Lenor Ayala as the mother of Ana Trevino the daughter of Jose Trevino.
According to a recent paper by the archivist of General Escobedo that came out earlier in the year, Ana Trevino was illegitimate. She was born in Zacatecas. There is no mention of who her mother really is.
The article is posted on the General Escobedo site. This means I have to continue my search as I am also descended from the Saens.

Thanks,
--
Esther A. Herold

-------------- Original message from "M. Vallazza" : --------------

> It's a myth that Diego Trevino is descended from Bernardino Fernandez
> Velasco. I once thought that he was, too! But when I went searching
> for verification, it appears that he isn't. I'm a descendant of Diego
> and Francisca so I was interested. Where did you get your info about
> Francisca Alcocer being descended from Henry II and Eleanor of
> Aquitaine? I'd love to know. Marge :)
> On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:32 AM, eaherold@att.net wrote:
>
> > Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some
> > children of Diego Tevino and
> > Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think Francisca
> > Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to
> > Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
> > DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one
> > moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of
> > parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
> > John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino Fernandez
> > Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
> > Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of
> > Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
> > --
> > Esther A. Herold
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message from rosa9972
> > : --------------
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Hi Linda and Joseph--
> >>
> >> Yes, Linda, your aunt is related to me and Joseph through the
> >> Banuelos family.
> >> I have her ancestry for some generations back. I collect as much
> >> information
> >> on the Banuelos and related families of Huejucar, Jalisco. I'll email
> >> you off
> >> the group so we can exchange information.
> >>
> >> So far I have your aunt as my 3rd cousin once removed, and Joseph as
> >> her 5th
> >> cousin once removed. Almost all of the Banuelos from Huejucar are
> >> related and
> >> are from Rancho Las Bocas.
> >>
> >> Rosalinda
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Joseph Puentes
> >> Sent: Dec 1, 2006 6:22 PM
> >> To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
> >> Cc: "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"
> >> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos and Quesada in Huejucar
> >> Jalisco
> >>
> >> Rosalinda. . .Rosalinda,
> >>
> >> Looks like some more cousins. Rosalinda and I are Ba

I was going to copy and paste to you here but the information is just
too lengthy. Go to Google groups and type in Genealogia de Mexico,
then in the search engine for that group type in Banuelos + Inclan or
Banuelos + Velasco and see what it gets you. Marge:)

On Dec 2, 2006, at 11:59 PM, eaherold@att.net wrote:

> Again my source is John Inclan. I am inclined to believe that is a
> myth also. All I know that has been
> verified from records in Jalisco is that Francisca Alcocer died there
> and that the Banuelos families and the Trevinos are part of the same
> family.
>
> Marge, could you share your information that convinced you that the
> connection to Bernardino Fernandez Velasco is a myth? Inclan
> mentioned a lot of books which I have been tr ying to get on
> interlibrary loan. THese books deal with early colonists in Mexico.I
> still think there are worthwhile looking at. He mentioned books
> at various sites where he has been posting the Trevino lineage.
>
> Also many people list Lenor Ayala as the mother of Ana Trevino the
> daughter of Jose Trevino.
> According to a recent paper by the archivist of General Escobedo that
> came out earlier in the year, Ana Trevino was illegitimate. She was
> born in Zacatecas. There is no mention of who her mother really is.
> The article is posted on the General Escobedo site. This means I have
> to continue my search as I am also descended from the Saens.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Esther A. Herold
>
>
> -------------- Original message from "M. Vallazza"
> : --------------
>
>
>> It's a myth that Diego Trevino is descended from Bernardino Fernandez
>> Velasco. I once thought that he was, too! But when I went searching
>> for verification, it appears that he isn't. I'm a descendant of Diego
>> and Francisca so I was interested. Where did you get your info about
>> Francisca Alcocer being descended from Henry II and Eleanor of
>> Aquitaine? I'd love to know. Marge :)
>> On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:32 AM, eaherold@att.net wrote:
>>
>>> Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some
>>> children of Diego Tevino and
>>> Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think Francisca
>>> Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to
>>> Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
>>> DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one
>>> moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of
>>> parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
>>> John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino
>>> Fernandez
>>> Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
>>> Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of
>>> Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
>>> --
>>> Esther A. Herold
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message from rosa9972
>>> : --------------
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Linda and Joseph--
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Linda, your aunt is related to me and Joseph through the
>>>> Banuelos family.
>>>> I have her ancestry for some generations back. I collect as much
>>>> information
>>>> on the Banuelos and related families of Huejucar, Jalisco. I'll
>>>> email
>>>> you off
>>>> the group so we can exchange information.
>>>>
>>>> So far I have your aunt as my 3rd cousin once removed, and Joseph as
>>>> her 5th
>>>> cousin once removed. Almost all of the Banuelos from Huejucar are
>>>> related and
>>>> are from Rancho Las Bocas.
>>>>
>>>> Rosalinda
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Joseph Puentes
>>>> Sent: Dec 1, 2006 6:22 PM
>>>> To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>> Cc: "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos and Quesada in Huejucar
>>>> Jalisco
>>>>
>>>> Rosalinda. . .Rosalinda,
>>>>
>>>> Looks like some more cousins. Rosalinda and I are Bañuelos and she
>>>> is a
>>>> Quesada. probably we'll tie into your Aunt's family (our cousins).
>>>> Rosalinda will know for sure.
>>>>
>>>> joseph
>>>>
>>>> ===================
>>>>
>>>> Joseph Puentes
>>>> http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
>>>> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)
>>>>
>>>> longsjourney wrote:
>>>>> I'm not familiar with the town of Huejucar Jalisco but my Aunt
>>>>> who's
>>>>> family is
>>>> from there has asked if I could find anything on her families there.
>>>>> Her parents were Salvador Banuelos and Emma Madrid no dates but
>>>>> approx. 1900
>>>> in Huejucar
>>>>> Salvadors parent Issac Banuelos and Teodora or Todora Flores abt
>>>>> 1875
>>>>> Teodora Flores's parents were Marcos Flores and Andrea Sandoval
>>>>> married 19 Feb
>>>> 1867 in Huejucar
>>>>> Salvadors parents were Santos Banuelos and Leonides Quesada married
>>>>> 20 April
>>>> 1871 in Huejucar.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've found children for these parents but no parents for Santos
>>>>> Banuelos or
>>>> Leonides Quesada. My Aunt was told that Santos father was Francisco
>>>> Banuelos
>>>> from Spain but I've found nothing to prove that. Is anyone working
>>>> any of these
>>>> lines from Huejucar Jalisco Mexico?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Linda in Everett
>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>>>
>>>>> To post, send email to:
>>>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>>
>>>>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>>>>> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>>
>>>> To post, send email to:
>>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>
>>>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>>>> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>
>>> To post, send email to:
>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>
>>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>>> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
>>

I'm interested in seeing your information, if you don't mind. Thanks.
Marge:)
On Dec 8, 2006, at 12:27 PM, juanita delgado wrote:

> my family tree traces DIEGO de TREVINO, back 7. yes, 7 generations 2
> generations before 1384.All the generations have a surname of VELASC0.
>
> Just thought it might interest you, though you might have this
> information already.
>
> eaherold@att.net wrote:
> Again my source is John Inclan. I am inclined to believe that is a
> myth also. All I know that has been
> verified from records in Jalisco is that Francisca Alcocer died there
> and that the Banuelos families and the Trevinos are part of the same
> family.
>
> Marge, could you share your information that convinced you that the
> connection to Bernardino Fernandez Velasco is a myth? Inclan mentioned
> a lot of books which I have been tr ying to get on interlibrary loan.
> THese books deal with early colonists in Mexico.I still think there
> are worthwhile looking at. He mentioned books at various sites where
> he has been posting the Trevino lineage.
>
> Also many people list Lenor Ayala as the mother of Ana Trevino the
> daughter of Jose Trevino.
> According to a recent paper by the archivist of General Escobedo that
> came out earlier in the year, Ana Trevino was illegitimate. She was
> born in Zacatecas. There is no mention of who her mother really is.
> The article is posted on the General Escobedo site. This means I have
> to continue my search as I am also descended from the Saens.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Esther A. Herold
>
>
> -------------- Original message from "M. Vallazza" : --------------
>
>
>> It's a myth that Diego Trevino is descended from Bernardino Fernandez
>> Velasco. I once thought that he was, too! But when I went searching
>> for verification, it appears that he isn't. I'm a descendant of Diego
>> and Francisca so I was interested. Where did you get your info about
>> Francisca Alcocer being descended from Henry II and Eleanor of
>> Aquitaine? I'd love to know. Marge :)
>> On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:32 AM, eaherold@att.net wrote:
>>
>>> Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some
>>> children of Diego Tevino and
>>> Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think Francisca
>>> Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to
>>> Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
>>> DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one
>>> moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of
>>> parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
>>> John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino
>>> Fernandez
>>> Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
>>> Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of
>>> Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
>>> --
>>> Esther A. Herold
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message from rosa9972
>>> : --------------
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Linda and Joseph--
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Linda, your aunt is related to me and Joseph through the
>>>> Banuelos family.
>>>> I have her ancestry for some generations back. I collect as much
>>>> information
>>>> on the Banuelos and related families of Huejucar, Jalisco. I'll
>>>> email
>>>> you off
>>>> the group so we can exchange information.
>>>>
>>>> So far I have your aunt as my 3rd cousin once removed, and Joseph as
>>>> her 5th
>>>> cousin once removed. Almost all of the Banuelos from Huejucar are
>>>> related and
>>>> are from Rancho Las Bocas.
>>>>
>>>> Rosalinda
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Joseph Puentes
>>>> Sent: Dec 1, 2006 6:22 PM
>>>> To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>> Cc: "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos and Quesada in Huejucar
>>>> Jalisco
>>>>
>>>> Rosalinda. . .Rosalinda,
>>>>
>>>> Looks like some more cousins. Rosalinda and I are Bañuelos and she
>>>> is a
>>>> Quesada. probably we'll tie into your Aunt's family (our cousins).
>>>> Rosalinda will know for sure.
>>>>
>>>> joseph
>>>>
>>>> ===================
>>>>
>>>> Joseph Puentes
>>>> http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
>>>> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)
>>>>
>>>> longsjourney wrote:
>>>>> I'm not familiar with the town of Huejucar Jalisco but my Aunt
>>>>> who's
>>>>> family is
>>>> from there has asked if I could find anything on her families there.
>>>>> Her parents were Salvador Banuelos and Emma Madrid no dates but
>>>>> approx. 1900
>>>> in Huejucar
>>>>> Salvadors parent Issac Banuelos and Teodora or Todora Flores abt
>>>>> 1875
>>>>> Teodora Flores's parents were Marcos Flores and Andrea Sandoval
>>>>> married 19 Feb
>>>> 1867 in Huejucar
>>>>> Salvadors parents were Santos Banuelos and Leonides Quesada married
>>>>> 20 April
>>>> 1871 in Huejucar.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've found children for these parents but no parents for Santos
>>>>> Banuelos or
>>>> Leonides Quesada. My Aunt was told that Santos father was Francisco
>>>> Banuelos
>>>> from Spain but I've found nothing to prove that. Is anyone working
>>>> any of these
>>>> lines from Huejucar Jalisco Mexico?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Linda in Everett
>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>>>
>>>>> To post, send email to:
>>>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>>
>>>>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>>>>> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>>
>>>> To post, send email to:
>>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>
>>>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>>>> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>
>>> To post, send email to:
>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>
>>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>>> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
>>

but don't put it in an email to the list.

either:

1) gedcom it to the group via the gedcom section
2) put a report in your folder
3) email it to her privately

joseph

===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

M. Vallazza wrote:
> I'm interested in seeing your information, if you don't mind. Thanks.
> Marge:)
> On Dec 8, 2006, at 12:27 PM, juanita delgado wrote:
>
>
>> my family tree traces DIEGO de TREVINO, back 7. yes, 7 generations 2
>> generations before 1384.All the generations have a surname of VELASC0.
>>
>> Just thought it might interest you, though you might have this
>> information already.
>>
>> eaherold@att.net wrote:
>> Again my source is John Inclan. I am inclined to believe that is a
>> myth also. All I know that has been
>> verified from records in Jalisco is that Francisca Alcocer died there
>> and that the Banuelos families and the Trevinos are part of the same
>> family.
>>
>> Marge, could you share your information that convinced you that the
>> connection to Bernardino Fernandez Velasco is a myth? Inclan mentioned
>> a lot of books which I have been tr ying to get on interlibrary loan.
>> THese books deal with early colonists in Mexico.I still think there
>> are worthwhile looking at. He mentioned books at various sites where
>> he has been posting the Trevino lineage.
>>
>> Also many people list Lenor Ayala as the mother of Ana Trevino the
>> daughter of Jose Trevino.
>> According to a recent paper by the archivist of General Escobedo that
>> came out earlier in the year, Ana Trevino was illegitimate. She was
>> born in Zacatecas. There is no mention of who her mother really is.
>> The article is posted on the General Escobedo site. This means I have
>> to continue my search as I am also descended from the Saens.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Esther A. Herold
>>
>>
>> -------------- Original message from "M. Vallazza" : --------------
>>
>>
>>
>>> It's a myth that Diego Trevino is descended from Bernardino Fernandez
>>> Velasco. I once thought that he was, too! But when I went searching
>>> for verification, it appears that he isn't. I'm a descendant of Diego
>>> and Francisca so I was interested. Where did you get your info about
>>> Francisca Alcocer being descended from Henry II and Eleanor of
>>> Aquitaine? I'd love to know. Marge :)
>>> On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:32 AM, eaherold@att.net wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some
>>>> children of Diego Tevino and
>>>> Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think Francisca
>>>> Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to
>>>> Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
>>>> DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one
>>>> moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of
>>>> parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
>>>> John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino
>>>> Fernandez
>>>> Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
>>>> Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of
>>>> Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
>>>> --
>>>> Esther A. Herold
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------------- Original message from rosa9972
>>>> : --------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Linda and Joseph--
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, Linda, your aunt is related to me and Joseph through the
>>>>> Banuelos family.
>>>>> I have her ancestry for some generations back. I collect as much
>>>>> information
>>>>> on the Banuelos and related families of Huejucar, Jalisco. I'll
>>>>> email
>>>>> you off
>>>>> the group so we can exchange information.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far I have your aunt as my 3rd cousin once removed, and Joseph as
>>>>> her 5th
>>>>> cousin once removed. Almost all of the Banuelos from Huejucar are
>>>>> related and
>>>>> are from Rancho Las Bocas.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rosalinda
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Joseph Puentes
>>>>> Sent: Dec 1, 2006 6:22 PM
>>>>> To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>> Cc: "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos and Quesada in Huejucar
>>>>> Jalisco
>>>>>
>>>>> Rosalinda. . .Rosalinda,
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like some more cousins. Rosalinda and I are Bañuelos and she
>>>>> is a
>>>>> Quesada. probably we'll tie into your Aunt's family (our cousins).
>>>>> Rosalinda will know for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> joseph
>>>>>
>>>>> ===================
>>>>>
>>>>> Joseph Puentes
>>>>> http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
>>>>> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)
>>>>>
>>>>> longsjourney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not familiar with the town of Huejucar Jalisco but my Aunt
>>>>>> who's
>>>>>> family is
>>>>>>
>>>>> from there has asked if I could find anything on her families there.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Her parents were Salvador Banuelos and Emma Madrid no dates but
>>>>>> approx. 1900
>>>>>>
>>>>> in Huejucar
>>>>>
>>>>>> Salvadors parent Issac Banuelos and Teodora or Todora Flores abt
>>>>>> 1875
>>>>>> Teodora Flores's parents were Marcos Flores and Andrea Sandoval
>>>>>> married 19 Feb
>>>>>>
>>>>> 1867 in Huejucar
>>>>>
>>>>>> Salvadors parents were Santos Banuelos and Leonides Quesada married
>>>>>> 20 April
>>>>>>
>>>>> 1871 in Huejucar.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've found children for these parents but no parents for Santos
>>>>>> Banuelos or
>>>>>>
>>>>> Leonides Quesada. My Aunt was told that Santos father was Francisco
>>>>> Banuelos
>>>>> from Spain but I've found nothing to prove that. Is anyone working
>>>>> any of these
>>>>> lines from Huejucar Jalisco Mexico?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Linda in Everett
>>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To post, send email to:
>>>>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>>>>>> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
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>>>>>>
>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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Marge,

John Inclan references Guillermo Garmendia Leal's book on Nueva Galicia p.142. Guillermo in his book references two books, one in the Bancroft library, "A Guide to the Manuscripts of the Collections of Bancroft, Vol II Mexican Manuscripts Clave M-M1714" p 151. Then Guillermo also lists a film from the Family History Center in Salt Lake #0266637. Then there is another book "Biografias de Conquistadoews de Mexico de Guatamala" by Francisco Fernandez de Catsillo p. 59.

I still hae not seen any proofs either way regarding Trevino's lineage only opinions. It is worth to try and check out the resources mentioned above.

Esther
--
Esther A. Herold

-------------- Original message from "M. Vallazza" : --------------

> I'm interested in seeing your information, if you don't mind. Thanks.
> Marge:)
> On Dec 8, 2006, at 12:27 PM, juanita delgado wrote:
>
> > my family tree traces DIEGO de TREVINO, back 7. yes, 7 generations 2
> > generations before 1384.All the generations have a surname of VELASC0.
> >
> > Just thought it might interest you, though you might have this
> > information already.
> >
> > eaherold@att.net wrote:
> > Again my source is John Inclan. I am inclined to believe that is a
> > myth also. All I know that has been
> > verified from records in Jalisco is that Francisca Alcocer died there
> > and that the Banuelos families and the Trevinos are part of the same
> > family.
> >
> > Marge, could you share your information that convinced you that the
> > connection to Bernardino Fernandez Velasco is a myth? Inclan mentioned
> > a lot of books which I have been tr ying to get on interlibrary loan.
> > THese books deal with early colonists in Mexico.I still think there
> > are worthwhile looking at. He mentioned books at various sites where
> > he has been posting the Trevino lineage.
> >
> > Also many people list Lenor Ayala as the mother of Ana Trevino the
> > daughter of Jose Trevino.
> > According to a recent paper by the archivist of General Escobedo that
> > came out earlier in the year, Ana Trevino was illegitimate. She was
> > born in Zacatecas. There is no mention of who her mother really is.
> > The article is posted on the General Escobedo site. This means I have
> > to continue my search as I am also descended from the Saens.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > Esther A. Herold
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message from "M. Vallazza" : --------------
> >
> >
> >> It's a myth that Diego Trevino is descended from Bernardino Fernandez
> >> Velasco. I once thought that he was, too! But when I went searching
> >> for verification, it appears that he isn't. I'm a descendant of Diego
> >> and Francisca so I was interested. Where did you get your info about
> >> Francisca Alcocer being descended from Henry II and Eleanor of
> >> Aquitaine? I'd love to know. Marge :)
> >> On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:32 AM, eaherold@att.net wrote:
> >>
> >>> Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some
> >>> children of Diego Tevino and
> >>> Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think Francisca
> >>> Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to
> >>> Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
> >>> DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one
> >>> moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of
> >>> parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
> >>> John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino
> >>> Fernandez
> >>> Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
> >>> Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of
> >>> Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
> >>> --
> >>> Esther A. Herold
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -------------- Original message from rosa9972
> >>> : --------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Linda and Joseph--
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, Linda, your aunt is related to me and Joseph through the
> >>>> Banuelos family.
> >>>> I have her ancestry for some generations back. I collect as much
> >>>> information
> >>>> on the Banuelos and related families of Huejucar, Jalisco. I'll
> >>>> email
> >>>> you off
> >>>> the group so we can exchange information.
> >>>>
> >>>> So far I have your aunt as my 3rd cousin once removed, and Joseph as
> >>>> her 5th
> >>>> cousin once removed. Almost all of the Banuelos from Huejucar are
> >>>> related and
> >>>> are from Rancho Las Bocas.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rosalinda
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Joseph Puentes
> >>>> Sent: Dec 1, 2006 6:22 PM
> >>>> To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
> >>>> Cc: "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos and Quesada in Huejucar
> >>>> Jalisco
> >>>>
> >>>> Rosalinda. . .Rosalinda,
> >>>>
> >>>> Looks like some more cousins. Rosalinda and I are Ba

why don't you all ask John Inclan to comment: fromgalveston@yahoo.com

joseph

===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

eaherold@att.net wrote:
> Marge,
>
> John Inclan references Guillermo Garmendia Leal's book on Nueva Galicia p.142. Guillermo in his book references two books, one in the Bancroft library, "A Guide to the Manuscripts of the Collections of Bancroft, Vol II Mexican Manuscripts Clave M-M1714" p 151. Then Guillermo also lists a film from the Family History Center in Salt Lake #0266637. Then there is another book "Biografias de Conquistadoews de Mexico de Guatamala" by Francisco Fernandez de Catsillo p. 59.
>
> I still hae not seen any proofs either way regarding Trevino's lineage only opinions. It is worth to try and check out the resources mentioned above.
>
> Esther
> --
> Esther A. Herold
>
>
> -------------- Original message from "M. Vallazza" : --------------
>
>
>
>> I'm interested in seeing your information, if you don't mind. Thanks.
>> Marge:)
>> On Dec 8, 2006, at 12:27 PM, juanita delgado wrote:
>>
>>
>>> my family tree traces DIEGO de TREVINO, back 7. yes, 7 generations 2
>>> generations before 1384.All the generations have a surname of VELASC0.
>>>
>>> Just thought it might interest you, though you might have this
>>> information already.
>>>
>>> eaherold@att.net wrote:
>>> Again my source is John Inclan. I am inclined to believe that is a
>>> myth also. All I know that has been
>>> verified from records in Jalisco is that Francisca Alcocer died there
>>> and that the Banuelos families and the Trevinos are part of the same
>>> family.
>>>
>>> Marge, could you share your information that convinced you that the
>>> connection to Bernardino Fernandez Velasco is a myth? Inclan mentioned
>>> a lot of books which I have been tr ying to get on interlibrary loan.
>>> THese books deal with early colonists in Mexico.I still think there
>>> are worthwhile looking at. He mentioned books at various sites where
>>> he has been posting the Trevino lineage.
>>>
>>> Also many people list Lenor Ayala as the mother of Ana Trevino the
>>> daughter of Jose Trevino.
>>> According to a recent paper by the archivist of General Escobedo that
>>> came out earlier in the year, Ana Trevino was illegitimate. She was
>>> born in Zacatecas. There is no mention of who her mother really is.
>>> The article is posted on the General Escobedo site. This means I have
>>> to continue my search as I am also descended from the Saens.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --
>>> Esther A. Herold
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message from "M. Vallazza" : --------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> It's a myth that Diego Trevino is descended from Bernardino Fernandez
>>>> Velasco. I once thought that he was, too! But when I went searching
>>>> for verification, it appears that he isn't. I'm a descendant of Diego
>>>> and Francisca so I was interested. Where did you get your info about
>>>> Francisca Alcocer being descended from Henry II and Eleanor of
>>>> Aquitaine? I'd love to know. Marge :)
>>>> On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:32 AM, eaherold@att.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some
>>>>> children of Diego Tevino and
>>>>> Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think Francisca
>>>>> Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to
>>>>> Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
>>>>> DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one
>>>>> moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of
>>>>> parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
>>>>> John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino
>>>>> Fernandez
>>>>> Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
>>>>> Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of
>>>>> Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Esther A. Herold
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------- Original message from rosa9972
>>>>> : --------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Linda and Joseph--
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, Linda, your aunt is related to me and Joseph through the
>>>>>> Banuelos family.
>>>>>> I have her ancestry for some generations back. I collect as much
>>>>>> information
>>>>>> on the Banuelos and related families of Huejucar, Jalisco. I'll
>>>>>> email
>>>>>> you off
>>>>>> the group so we can exchange information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far I have your aunt as my 3rd cousin once removed, and Joseph as
>>>>>> her 5th
>>>>>> cousin once removed. Almost all of the Banuelos from Huejucar are
>>>>>> related and
>>>>>> are from Rancho Las Bocas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rosalinda
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Joseph Puentes
>>>>>> Sent: Dec 1, 2006 6:22 PM
>>>>>> To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>>> Cc: "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos and Quesada in Huejucar
>>>>>> Jalisco
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rosalinda. . .Rosalinda,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like some more cousins. Rosalinda and I are Bañuelos and she
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>> Quesada. probably we'll tie into your Aunt's family (our cousins).
>>>>>> Rosalinda will know for sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> joseph
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ===================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joseph Puentes
>>>>>> http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
>>>>>> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> longsjourney wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not familiar with the town of Huejucar Jalisco but my Aunt
>>>>>>> who's
>>>>>>> family is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> from there has asked if I could find anything on her families there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Her parents were Salvador Banuelos and Emma Madrid no dates but
>>>>>>> approx. 1900
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> in Huejucar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Salvadors parent Issac Banuelos and Teodora or Todora Flores abt
>>>>>>> 1875
>>>>>>> Teodora Flores's parents were Marcos Flores and Andrea Sandoval
>>>>>>> married 19 Feb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1867 in Huejucar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Salvadors parents were Santos Banuelos and Leonides Quesada married
>>>>>>> 20 April
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1871 in Huejucar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've found children for these parents but no parents for Santos
>>>>>>> Banuelos or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leonides Quesada. My Aunt was told that Santos father was Francisco
>>>>>> Banuelos
>>>>>> from Spain but I've found nothing to prove that. Is anyone working
>>>>>> any of these
>>>>>> lines from Huejucar Jalisco Mexico?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Linda in Everett
>>>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>>>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To post, send email to:
>>>>>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>>>>>>> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To post, send email to:
>>>>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>>>>>> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>>>
>>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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>>>>>
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>>>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>>
>>>>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>>>>> http://www.NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> research(at)NuestrosRanchos.com
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
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I believe I have emailed John on this subject before and never received a response. John has printed
his genealogies in many spots. He has referenced some the genealogies in some places. If John is not willing to respond then one can only check his references. I believe John gets a lot of email.

I checked the film referenced in Leal's book and something seemed amis as it was a film on deceased indio in the 1700s and did not seem relevant to this subject.

Leal's book, sold by Borderlands Books does list Banuelos in the late 1500s 1600s.
--
Esther A. Herold

-------------- Original message from Joseph Puentes : --------------

> why don't you all ask John Inclan to comment: fromgalveston@yahoo.com
>
>
> joseph
>
> ===================
>
> Joseph Puentes
> http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)
>
>
>
> eaherold@att.net wrote:
> > Marge,
> >
> > John Inclan references Guillermo Garmendia Leal's book on Nueva Galicia p.142.
> Guillermo in his book references two books, one in the Bancroft library, "A
> Guide to the Manuscripts of the Collections of Bancroft, Vol II Mexican
> Manuscripts Clave M-M1714" p 151. Then Guillermo also lists a film from the
> Family History Center in Salt Lake #0266637. Then there is another book
> "Biografias de Conquistadoews de Mexico de Guatamala" by Francisco Fernandez de
> Catsillo p. 59.
> >
> > I still hae not seen any proofs either way regarding Trevino's lineage only
> opinions. It is worth to try and check out the resources mentioned above.
> >
> > Esther
> > --
> > Esther A. Herold
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message from "M. Vallazza" :
> --------------
> >
> >
> >
> >> I'm interested in seeing your information, if you don't mind. Thanks.
> >> Marge:)
> >> On Dec 8, 2006, at 12:27 PM, juanita delgado wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> my family tree traces DIEGO de TREVINO, back 7. yes, 7 generations 2
> >>> generations before 1384.All the generations have a surname of VELASC0.
> >>>
> >>> Just thought it might interest you, though you might have this
> >>> information already.
> >>>
> >>> eaherold@att.net wrote:
> >>> Again my source is John Inclan. I am inclined to believe that is a
> >>> myth also. All I know that has been
> >>> verified from records in Jalisco is that Francisca Alcocer died there
> >>> and that the Banuelos families and the Trevinos are part of the same
> >>> family.
> >>>
> >>> Marge, could you share your information that convinced you that the
> >>> connection to Bernardino Fernandez Velasco is a myth? Inclan mentioned
> >>> a lot of books which I have been tr ying to get on interlibrary loan.
> >>> THese books deal with early colonists in Mexico.I still think there
> >>> are worthwhile looking at. He mentioned books at various sites where
> >>> he has been posting the Trevino lineage.
> >>>
> >>> Also many people list Lenor Ayala as the mother of Ana Trevino the
> >>> daughter of Jose Trevino.
> >>> According to a recent paper by the archivist of General Escobedo that
> >>> came out earlier in the year, Ana Trevino was illegitimate. She was
> >>> born in Zacatecas. There is no mention of who her mother really is.
> >>> The article is posted on the General Escobedo site. This means I have
> >>> to continue my search as I am also descended from the Saens.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> --
> >>> Esther A. Herold
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -------------- Original message from "M. Vallazza" : --------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> It's a myth that Diego Trevino is descended from Bernardino Fernandez
> >>>> Velasco. I once thought that he was, too! But when I went searching
> >>>> for verification, it appears that he isn't. I'm a descendant of Diego
> >>>> and Francisca so I was interested. Where did you get your info about
> >>>> Francisca Alcocer being descended from Henry II and Eleanor of
> >>>> Aquitaine? I'd love to know. Marge :)
> >>>> On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:32 AM, eaherold@att.net wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some
> >>>>> children of Diego Tevino and
> >>>>> Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think Francisca
> >>>>> Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to
> >>>>> Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
> >>>>> DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one
> >>>>> moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of
> >>>>> parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
> >>>>> John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino
> >>>>> Fernandez
> >>>>> Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
> >>>>> Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of
> >>>>> Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Esther A. Herold
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -------------- Original message from rosa9972
> >>>>> : --------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Linda and Joseph--
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes, Linda, your aunt is related to me and Joseph through the
> >>>>>> Banuelos family.
> >>>>>> I have her ancestry for some generations back. I collect as much
> >>>>>> information
> >>>>>> on the Banuelos and related families of Huejucar, Jalisco. I'll
> >>>>>> email
> >>>>>> you off
> >>>>>> the group so we can exchange information.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So far I have your aunt as my 3rd cousin once removed, and Joseph as
> >>>>>> her 5th
> >>>>>> cousin once removed. Almost all of the Banuelos from Huejucar are
> >>>>>> related and
> >>>>>> are from Rancho Las Bocas.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rosalinda
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Joseph Puentes
> >>>>>> Sent: Dec 1, 2006 6:22 PM
> >>>>>> To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
> >>>>>> Cc: "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos and Quesada in Huejucar
> >>>>>> Jalisco
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rosalinda. . .Rosalinda,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Looks like some more cousins. Rosalinda and I are Ba

>
> Hi Marge, Esther, et al.

I am not researching this family and don't have any info on them. However,
I happen to have the book you cite below and thought you might be interested
on what's written on page 142 of the Garmendia Leal book cited below.

The title of the chapter is: Descendientes de Diego Temiño. The first
generation listed is Diego Temiño de Velasco (R: 1474), born at España. He
married Fracisca de Alcozer (R: 1475) at España. Francisca, born at
España. Then, it goes on to list five children of this couple: Francisca,
Alonso, Baltazar, Diego and Mariana. VECINDAD: Fueron vecinos de Sevilla,
salen con sus hijos de España el 13 Junio de 1538 hacia Cartagena, pasan por
Mexico y llegan a Guadalajara, Jal. aprox. en 1543/44. Below that, is the
citation to the Bancroft Library manuscript Esther cites.

Maria E. Cortez

> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:28:06 +0000
> From: eaherold@att.net
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Banuelos Quesada in Huejucar Jalisco
> To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
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>
> Marge,
>
> John Inclan references Guillermo Garmendia Leal's book on Nueva Galicia
> p.142. Guillermo in his book references two books, one in the Bancroft
> library, "A Guide to the Manuscripts of the Collections of Bancroft, Vol II
> Mexican Manuscripts Clave M-M1714" p 151. Then Guillermo also lists a film
> from the Family History Center in Salt Lake #0266637. Then there is another
> book "Biografias de Conquistadoews de Mexico de Guatamala" by Francisco
> Fernandez de Catsillo p. 59.
>
> I still hae not seen any proofs either way regarding Trevino's lineage
> only opinions. It is worth to try and check out the resources mentioned
> above.
>
> Esther
> --
> Esther A. Herold
>
>
> -------------- Original message from "M. Vallazza" :
> --------------
>
>
> > I'm interested in seeing your information, if you don't mind. Thanks.
> > Marge:)
> > On Dec 8, 2006, at 12:27 PM, juanita delgado wrote:
> >
> > > my family tree traces DIEGO de TREVINO, back 7. yes, 7 generations 2
> > > generations before 1384.All the generations have a surname of VELASC0.
> > >
> > > Just thought it might interest you, though you might have this
> > > information already.
> > >
> > > eaherold@att.net wrote:
> > > Again my source is John Inclan. I am inclined to believe that is a
> > > myth also. All I know that has been
> > > verified from records in Jalisco is that Francisca Alcocer died there
> > > and that the Banuelos families and the Trevinos are part of the same
> > > family.
> > >
> > > Marge, could you share your information that convinced you that the
> > > connection to Bernardino Fernandez Velasco is a myth? Inclan mentioned
> > > a lot of books which I have been tr ying to get on interlibrary loan.
> > > THese books deal with early colonists in Mexico.I still think there
> > > are worthwhile looking at. He mentioned books at various sites where
> > > he has been posting the Trevino lineage.
> > >
> > > Also many people list Lenor Ayala as the mother of Ana Trevino the
> > > daughter of Jose Trevino.
> > > According to a recent paper by the archivist of General Escobedo that
> > > came out earlier in the year, Ana Trevino was illegitimate. She was
> > > born in Zacatecas. There is no mention of who her mother really is.
> > > The article is posted on the General Escobedo site. This means I have
> > > to continue my search as I am also descended from the Saens.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > --
> > > Esther A. Herold
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message from "M. Vallazza" : --------------
> > >
> > >
> > >> It's a myth that Diego Trevino is descended from Bernardino Fernandez
> > >> Velasco. I once thought that he was, too! But when I went searching
> > >> for verification, it appears that he isn't. I'm a descendant of Diego
> > >> and Francisca so I was interested. Where did you get your info about
> > >> Francisca Alcocer being descended from Henry II and Eleanor of
> > >> Aquitaine? I'd love to know. Marge :)
> > >> On Dec 2, 2006, at 10:32 AM, eaherold@att.net wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Are the Banauelos related tothe Trevinos way back in the 1500s? Some
> > >>> children of Diego Tevino and
> > >>> Francisca Alcocer took Trevino and others Banuelos? I think
> Francisca
> > >>> Alcocer died in Guadalajara in mid 1500s. SOme of her sons moved to
> > >>> Zacatecas city. Diego Trevino, the son for one. Children of
> > >>> DIego Trevino the son, Jose Trevino and his wife Lenor Ayala for one
> > >>> moved on to Monterrey around 1600. I am looking for veriffication of
> > >>> parentage of Diego Trevino, Sr and his wife Francisca Alcocer.
> > >>> John Inclan claims Diego Trevino decends from the Bernardino
> > >>> Fernandez
> > >>> Velasco, 3rd count Haro.
> > >>> Francisca Alcocer is said to descend from Henery II and Eleanor of
> > >>> Acquitiane through daughter Eleanor.
> > >>> --
> > >>> Esther A. Herold
> > >>>
>

The book does not list the parents of Diego Trevino or Francisca ALocoer.
--
Esther A. Herold

-------------- Original message from juanita delgado : --------------

> on DIEGO de TREVINO and FRANCISCA ALCOZER and their children:
>
> The book 'ORIGINS of the SURNAMES GARZA (de la) and TREVINO in NUEVO LEON",
> by TOMAS M. CUEVAS, and translated by EDNA BROWN.can be found in the de
> ESCANDON RESEARCH ROOM at the BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS, public library.
>
> That is where I got a lotttt of information on the names, the book includes
> several genealogies.
>
> juanaita g. delgado
>
> P.S. IF THERE IS SOME INFORMATION YOU WISH ME TO LOOK UP FOR YOU, I WILL BE
> HAPPY TO DO IT.
>
>
> >
> > Hi Marge, Esther, et al.
>
>
> I am not researching this family and don't have any info on them. However,
> I happen to have the book you cite below and thought you might be interested
> on what's written on page 142 of the Garmendia Leal book cited below.
>
> The title of the chapter is: Descendientes de Diego Temi

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