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go here: http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm
and under p and then Papelote it says:

"Rancho de la Municipalidad de San Juan de los Lagos, segundo canton,
estado de Jalisco. Otro de la municipalidad de Union."

joseph

Nelida1962 wrote:

>I would like to know if anyone has any information regarding el RANCHO EL PAPELOTE IN JALISCO. My grandmother was from there. I don't know if that would belong to San Julian Jalisco or San Juan de Los Lagos Jalisco. My grandmother Camila Estrada was from that area. I can't seem to find anything on the web regarding this rancheria. Can anyone help?
>
>Gracias,
>Nelida Vazquez Estrada

George:

You and I are primos. I am a direct descendant of Francisco Godoy, Maria de la Rosa Llamas and their son Agustin Godoy. I lose your lineage there. Are you saying that Agustin and Maria Antonia de la O had a son named Casimiro Celedonio? I did not have him as one of their children.

http://www.ramosfamily.org/nextgen/getperson.php?personID=I1281

I have a suspsicion that Francisco Godoy is a descendant of Juan Carlos de Godoy, whose descendancy Susana Leniski has documented quite well (you can find it in her member's genealogy folder), but I have not been able to make the connection as I cannot find the marriage document or birth document for Francisco de Godoy.

Welcome to the group. There is a whole group of us with lines in Tlaltenango and Tepechitlan and I am sure we are all related.

Do you have an Agustina in your de Llamas tree? Marge:)
On Nov 3, 2006, at 6:29 PM, godoi1m@netzero.net wrote:

> Hello, I would like to introduce myself. My name is George Godoy I
> been researching the Godoys/Godoi of Zacatecas so far I'm down to my
> nineth Gen. GreatGrandfather Nicolas Godoy his son Franco married
> Maria Rosa de LLamas in 1704, the family settle in Rancho de la LLamas
> in Tlaltenango,Zacatecas they are listed in the Census of Tlaltenango
> of 1754.
>
> George

George, I emailed you my genealogical report for my Godoy/Llamas line....is there a connection there? I haven't researched this line past 1746...my Godoy/Llamas are, too, in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, in Zacatecas. I go up as far as Josseph Godoy married to Maria Magdalena de Llamas who had Maria Salvadora Godoy in 1756 and Maria Rita Godoy in 1746. Maria Salvadora married Francisco Salvador Bergara and that's the last of the line because the rest of my family branches out to Bergara's and then to Avila's and then to Correa's......let me know!

Peggy Delgado

George, I emailed you my genealogical report for my Godoy/Llamas line....is there a connection there? I haven't researched this line past 1746...my Godoy/Llamas are, too, in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, in Zacatecas. I go up as far as Josseph Godoy married to Maria Magdalena de Llamas who had Maria Salvadora Godoy in 1756 and Maria Rita Godoy in 1746. Maria Salvadora married Francisco Salvador Bergara and that's the last of the line because the rest of my family branches out to Bergara's and then to Avila's and then to Correa's......let me know!

Peggy Delgado

Hello,
My Name is Denise Lovato-Duran I am researching the Lobato's who are from Sombrete, Zacatacas. I recently had my brother do his DNA and we turned out Halogroup Q-3 it also matched a Tafoya whose roots go back to Michoacan. I think my Indian ancestor came to Sombrete and was baptized a Lobato. The first Lobato's that came to New Mexico were Bartolome Lobato and his brother Matias I am possibly the descentant of Matias Lobato.
Thank You
Denise Lovato-Duran

----- Original Message -----
From: DENISE LOVATO-DURAN
To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:52 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] (no subject)

Hello,
My Name is Denise Lovato-Duran I am researching the Lobato's who are from Sombrete, Zacatacas. I recently had my brother do his DNA and we turned out Halogroup Q-3 it also matched a Tafoya whose roots go back to Michoacan. I think my Indian ancestor came to Sombrete and was baptized a Lobato. The first Lobato's that came to New Mexico were Bartolome Lobato and his brother Matias I am possibly the descentant of Matias Lobato.
Thank You
Denise Lovato-Duran

Hola a todos:

Soy nuevo en este grupo y estoy interesado en genealogía principalmente de
Zacatecas. Mis abuelos paternos y la mayor parte de mis ancestros provienen
de Jerez, con ramas que vienen de Monte Escobedo, Tlaltenango, Fresnillo,
Colotlán, etc.

Cuento con bastante información sobre familias de Jerez y me pongo a su
disposición.

Saludos,
Héctor Félix Aizcorbe

Bienvenido, Hector,

Mis ancestros eran Felix de Arellano y Felix de Tinajero de Tepetongo y Salitrillo. Mis ancestros de apellido Olague eran de Jerez y Tepetongo. Tambien tengo Suriano, Quijas, Lucio, Escovedo, Aro, Flores, Munoz, Campos, Salazar, Miranda. Puedes ver mi arbol genealogico en este website.

Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA --
----- Original Message -----
From: Hector Felix Aizcorbe
To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:34 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] (no subject)

Hola a todos:

Soy nuevo en este grupo y estoy interesado en genealogía principalmente de
Zacatecas. Mis abuelos paternos y la mayor parte de mis ancestros provienen
de Jerez, con ramas que vienen de Monte Escobedo, Tlaltenango, Fresnillo,
Colotlán, etc.

Cuento con bastante información sobre familias de Jerez y me pongo a su
disposición.

Saludos,
Héctor Félix Aizcorbe

Hola Emilie:

Perdón por una respuesta tan tardía, pero he estado en cambio de trabajo muy
ocupado. Yo tengo entre mis ancestros muchos de los apellidos que mencionas,
y, en algunos casos, he avanzado mucho. Mi árbil genealógico lo tengo armado
en hojas de Excel, ya que a mi me facilita mas la consulta. Si te interesa
te lo puedo enviar, tengo un file por mi abuelo paterno y otro por mi abuela
paterna. Hoy he visitado el tuyo, pero a pesar de que muchos apellidos
coinciden, hasta ahora no aparece ninguno de mis ancestros.

Saludos y quedo a tus órdenes,
Héctor

>From: "Emilie Garcia"
>Reply-To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] (no subject)
>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 04:01:57 -0800
>
>Bienvenido, Hector,
>
>Mis ancestros eran Felix de Arellano y Felix de Tinajero de Tepetongo y
>Salitrillo. Mis ancestros de apellido Olague eran de Jerez y Tepetongo.
>Tambien tengo Suriano, Quijas, Lucio, Escovedo, Aro, Flores, Munoz, Campos,
>Salazar, Miranda. Puedes ver mi arbol genealogico en este website.
>
>Emilie Garcia
>Port Orchard, WA --
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hector Felix Aizcorbe
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:34 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] (no subject)
>
>
> Hola a todos:
>
> Soy nuevo en este grupo y estoy interesado en genealogía principalmente
>de
> Zacatecas. Mis abuelos paternos y la mayor parte de mis ancestros
>provienen
> de Jerez, con ramas que vienen de Monte Escobedo, Tlaltenango,
>Fresnillo,
> Colotlán, etc.
>
> Cuento con bastante información sobre familias de Jerez y me pongo a su
> disposición.
>
> Saludos,
> Héctor Félix Aizcorbe
>
>
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