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By Visitor - Posted on 21 July 2006

Sorry to eavesdrop; however, I found this message of special interest. If
Sonora is mentioned, you have my undivided attention.To date I have been
able to trace my TISNADO line to the marriage of Juan Domingo Tisnado and
Ma. Magdalena Contreras in 1736 in Magdalena, Sonora. As shown by a later
padrón, he is listed as being of the presidio de Túbac. In addition, forty
years later his son, Juan José Tisnado, is listed in the muster rolls of the
presidio de Tucsón.

Regarding the surname Ortega, I have found numerous instances of
intermarriage between the TISNADO, ORTEGA and LISARRAGA. This marriages
ocurred in the area of the presidio de Altar.

George

> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:23:41 -0700 (PDT)
> From: NathanJones
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Romo & Rangel across Aguascalientes,
> Jalisco, Chihuahua, Nayarit and Sinaloa.
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
> Message-ID:
>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>
> Dear cousins:
>
> I just got this email from a gentleman in Aguascalientes who is
> researching our same lines. He must have run across my homepage. As I
> understand his message Diego Romo de Vivar ranged over a wider area than
> we anticipated, not extending his lifestyle to Hidalgo del Parral,
> Chihuahua alone, but reaching as far north in Nueva Biscaya as Villa
> Ahumada, which he founded.
>
> If you've never been there, I highly recommend Villa Ahumada. It's the
> town that cheese built. I think Menonite Cheese, but in any case a soft,
> moist, white cheese served on a fresh hand made tortilla.
>
> Out of this world! Vendors sell them to passing cars, trains,
> busses....pedestrians! They probably sold them to passing wagon trains.
>
> All decades before Pollo Loco!
>
> Ernie: dame un poco m?s de informaci?n sobre los Romo de Vivar: Diego y
> Pedro. Te informo que Diego estuvo unos a?os en Chihuahua como
> colonizador
> y fund? lo que ahora es Villa Ahumada.. Es probable que haya dejado
> descendencia fuera de matrimonio por all?. Hay un estudio interesante de
> ese
> episodio.Tengo documentado que se cas? en Aguascalientes, no en Espa?a.
> Pedro estuvo en Alamos, Sonora tambi?n como colonizador, pero al parecer
> volvi? ya viejo a Teocaltiche, Jalisco. Es fundador de la mayor?a de las
> l?neas geneal?gicas de Los Altos de Jalisco y de ah?, de las de Sonora y
> Sinaloa. Tengo la hip?tesis de que vinieron a Am?rica por que son primos
> hermanos del Capit?n Juan Rinc?n de Vivar y el Presb?tero Pedr? Rinc?n (de
> Vivar) de Ortega, poderos?simo personaje que fund? el mayorazgo de los
> Rinc?n-Gallardo. Es probable que los Romo hayan venido a ayudar a los
> primos
> ricos y luego que sirvieron a la corona como colonizadores en las
> fronteras
> de los chichimecas, se asentaron en esta regi?n como propietarios. Est?
> documentado (Archivo hist?rico de Aguascalientes, 1654), que ambos
> estuvieron un tiempo en la costa de lo que ahora es Nayarit, junto con
> otros
> colonos del centro de Nueva Galicia, defendiendo la costa de los ataques
> piratas.
> Saludos

His research does include Sonora. Sorry to leave that state off the list.

Unfortunately, I see no mention of Ortega, Tisnado, nor Lisarraga.

---- George Hoge wrote:
> Sorry to eavesdrop; however, I found this message of special interest. If
> Sonora is mentioned, you have my undivided attention.To date I have been
> able to trace my TISNADO line to the marriage of Juan Domingo Tisnado and
> Ma. Magdalena Contreras in 1736 in Magdalena, Sonora. As shown by a later
> padrón, he is listed as being of the presidio de Túbac. In addition, forty
> years later his son, Juan José Tisnado, is listed in the muster rolls of the
> presidio de Tucsón.
>
> Regarding the surname Ortega, I have found numerous instances of
> intermarriage between the TISNADO, ORTEGA and LISARRAGA. This marriages
> ocurred in the area of the presidio de Altar.
>
> George
>
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:23:41 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: NathanJones
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Romo & Rangel across Aguascalientes,
> > Jalisco, Chihuahua, Nayarit and Sinaloa.
> > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
> > Message-ID:
> >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> >
> > Dear cousins:
> >
> > I just got this email from a gentleman in Aguascalientes who is
> > researching our same lines. He must have run across my homepage. As I
> > understand his message Diego Romo de Vivar ranged over a wider area than
> > we anticipated, not extending his lifestyle to Hidalgo del Parral,
> > Chihuahua alone, but reaching as far north in Nueva Biscaya as Villa
> > Ahumada, which he founded.
> >
> > If you've never been there, I highly recommend Villa Ahumada. It's the
> > town that cheese built. I think Menonite Cheese, but in any case a soft,
> > moist, white cheese served on a fresh hand made tortilla.
> >
> > Out of this world! Vendors sell them to passing cars, trains,
> > busses....pedestrians! They probably sold them to passing wagon trains.
> >
> > All decades before Pollo Loco!
> >
> > Ernie: dame un poco m?s de informaci?n sobre los Romo de Vivar: Diego y
> > Pedro. Te informo que Diego estuvo unos a?os en Chihuahua como
> > colonizador
> > y fund? lo que ahora es Villa Ahumada.. Es probable que haya dejado
> > descendencia fuera de matrimonio por all?. Hay un estudio interesante de
> > ese
> > episodio.Tengo documentado que se cas? en Aguascalientes, no en Espa?a.
> > Pedro estuvo en Alamos, Sonora tambi?n como colonizador, pero al parecer
> > volvi? ya viejo a Teocaltiche, Jalisco. Es fundador de la mayor?a de las
> > l?neas geneal?gicas de Los Altos de Jalisco y de ah?, de las de Sonora y
> > Sinaloa. Tengo la hip?tesis de que vinieron a Am?rica por que son primos
> > hermanos del Capit?n Juan Rinc?n de Vivar y el Presb?tero Pedr? Rinc?n (de
> > Vivar) de Ortega, poderos?simo personaje que fund? el mayorazgo de los
> > Rinc?n-Gallardo. Es probable que los Romo hayan venido a ayudar a los
> > primos
> > ricos y luego que sirvieron a la corona como colonizadores en las
> > fronteras
> > de los chichimecas, se asentaron en esta regi?n como propietarios. Est?
> > documentado (Archivo hist?rico de Aguascalientes, 1654), que ambos
> > estuvieron un tiempo en la costa de lo que ahora es Nayarit, junto con
> > otros
> > colonos del centro de Nueva Galicia, defendiendo la costa de los ataques
> > piratas.
> > Saludos
>

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