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By NathanJones - Posted on 12 July 2006

That's very interesting. Thanks for letting us know.

My nephew was born with the Mongolian blue spot. The only person in our family we believe was ever born that way. Like your haplogroups, his purplish spot at the base of his spine is like a signpost pointing across the Pacific.

Everybody had to see his butt!

Mexico has a long connection with the east. as Arturo indicated. The Filipinos cheered "Viva Mexico, Mabuhay!" when they heard Mexico had broken away from Spain. They expected it was their turn next. And indeed, a Mexican soldier serving in Manila declared the Independence of the Phillippines.

But the Spaniards swiftly caught him, and hung him from the highest tree.

The last flotilla left Las Filipinas loaded with silks and porcelains from China for Acapulco. and beyond.

But the Mexican govenrment confiscated the goods and refused to compensate the Filipino merchants, bankrupting many, and bringing an end to the Spanish Galleon trans-Pacific trade.

That IS interesting!!!!! My sister Patsy, who is the third of us four
girls and is a guera, had the same spot at the base of her spine. My
oldest daughter, Kerin, also had it as a baby. I know we descend from
Moctezuma on my father's mother's side but don't know what sort of
Indian blood my father's father's family had. Marge:)
On Jul 12, 2006, at 3:25 PM, erniealderete@charter.net wrote:

> That's very interesting. Thanks for letting us know.
>
> My nephew was born with the Mongolian blue spot. The only person in
> our family we believe was ever born that way. Like your haplogroups,
> his purplish spot at the base of his spine is like a signpost pointing
> across the Pacific.
>
> Everybody had to see his butt!
>
> Mexico has a long connection with the east. as Arturo indicated. The
> Filipinos cheered "Viva Mexico, Mabuhay!" when they heard Mexico had
> broken away from Spain. They expected it was their turn next. And
> indeed, a Mexican soldier serving in Manila declared the Independence
> of the Phillippines.
>
> But the Spaniards swiftly caught him, and hung him from the highest
> tree.
>
> The last flotilla left Las Filipinas loaded with silks and porcelains
> from China for Acapulco. and beyond.
>
> But the Mexican govenrment confiscated the goods and refused to
> compensate the Filipino merchants, bankrupting many, and bringing an
> end to the Spanish Galleon trans-Pacific trade.
>
> ---- Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:
>> I had the 12 marker DNA done by my Uncle Louis Gutierrez, my mothers
>> brother, who was born in Tamazula Jalisco in 1924 but the genealogy
>> has the Gutierrez family in Chilchota Michocan in the mid 1600's to
>> 1780 or so when they migrated to Jalisco. To my surprise the results
>> came back Haplogroup N. Group N comes from China and Mongolia then
>> into Siberia... My mother was one of 8 children who all were very
>> fair skinned but do all have small slanted eyes. As a child my
>> mother was teased about her blue "Chinese eyes." and my cousin who is
>> an art instructor is always greeted by Asians as one of their own..
>> he said he believed the Gutierrez DNA would prove he had Asian
>> blood... he's the only one not surprised by the results.. The other
>> thing that surprised me was that in looking through Gary Felix's site
>> there were no other Haplogroup N participants.. that dissappointed
>> me. I had shared earlier that my MTDNA was Haplogroup A which I
>> thought explained our families slanted eyes.!
> ..
>>
>> just thought I'd share, Linda
>>
>>
>>
>>
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My family descends from Montezuma as well. So that blue spot might be a recessive gene in our deep, deep, ancient, Atzlan background. A badge of honor:)

I wanted to change my surname to Moctezuma. But my only sister didn't want us to have different surnames, so Alderete it will remain.

They say all Alderetes in Mexico are descended from the vilest conquistador, Julian Alderete. The gachupin who held Cuauhtemoc's feet to the fire. That's probably why Alderete is not as popular a surname in Mexico as elsewhere in Latin America, and Iberia.

My paternal grandparents are both mexican born. He in San Luis Potosi and she in Guadalajara. No one ever believes I have Mexican ancestry.
Even my moms half Portuguese, but I'm tall with light skin and blue eyes.
I had a Y-DNA test done to discover the origin of my Robledo family from San Luis Potosi. My records for them run out about 1800.

My results were a surprising Haplogroup O. I have had this confirmed by two more thorough tests. My family originated in southern Asia. My closest genetic matches are in the Philipines. This completly out of the blue, many family members are amused, some , especially the ones in Mexico, don't beleive it. This explains what doctors called a "birthmark" at the base of my back. It's a mongolian spot! My son also has one.
My daughter was getting her haircut by an Asian lady and she asked my wife if her husband was Asian . She felt my daughters eyes were distinctly Asian..

My further research shows an estimate of 140, 000 people of Chinese, Japanese and Filipino descent arrived in Mexico during the colonial period, mostly by the Manila Galleon routes. There are a few towns in the Acapulco area with long known connections to the Phillipines

Has anyone else seen this result in Mexican ancestry?

One of my daughters had the black "Mongolian mark" as a child and has eyes
like chinnese, another one develop the mark later on her adolecent years.
I have not done my DNA but I am very curios to do it. I was a blond girl,
light skin that I pass as american, and if I speak they think I am
Eurpoean. No one believes I am mexican either.

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