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By makas_nc - Posted on 11 June 2006

There have been quite a few new members that have joined the list since
we moved to the new site.

If you haven't had a chance yet please do introduce your self on the
Research list: research@nuestrosranchos.com

Make sure to give us the Surnames in the specific areas within our
Target area of research that you are researching. If you have any
questions or want to make comments please feel free to do so on whatever
list would be appropriate:

(for General topics)
general@nuestrosranchos.com

(for Announcements)
announce@nuestrosranchos.com

(for Research topics)
research@nuestrosranchos.com

thanks,
joseph

ps: I sent this "Announcement" message to the Research List because I think Introductions should be sent to the Research list since they specifically will include
Surnames and areas of Research. Don't be intimidated if you can't figure out which list to mail your comments to. There won't be a "proper forum" officer ready
to pounce on you if you post to the wrong list. For those that want to help redirect messages to an appropriate list just change the address sent to the group before
clicking on "reply."

Hi, My name is Patricia (Pat) Silva Corbera. I'm not new to genealogy research, spending over 10 years researching my Portuguese roots from the Island of Madeira. It's now time to devote that same "energy," to my husband's "family tree." I look forward in sharing and learning from members of this group.
Visit my webpage, scan down and click on "Casita Corbera," www.geocities.com/papagaia2, to learn a little more about our Corbera family.

Areas and Surnames

El Sagrario, Aguascalientes - surname Andrade
Rancho de Los Pintos Parroquia de Momax, Zacatecas
Surnames - Corbera/Corvera/Serrano/Salamanca/Gonzalez

Rancho de La Jabonera, Nochistlan, Zacatecas
Surnames - Perez/Aguirre/Andrade/Delgadillo/Lopez/Contreras/Plasencia/

Pat, you got my attention! Andrade from Aguascalientes, are they part of the family I posted on the Nuestros site?
Linda in Everett

Patricia Silva Corbera wrote:
Hi, My name is Patricia (Pat) Silva Corbera. I'm not new to genealogy research, spending over 10 years researching my Portuguese roots from the Island of Madeira. It's now time to devote that same "energy," to my husband's "family tree." I look forward in sharing and learning from members of this group.
Visit my webpage, scan down and click on "Casita Corbera," www.geocities.com/papagaia2, to learn a little more about our Corbera family.

Areas and Surnames

El Sagrario, Aguascalientes - surname Andrade
Rancho de Los Pintos Parroquia de Momax, Zacatecas
Surnames - Corbera/Corvera/Serrano/Salamanca/Gonzalez

Rancho de La Jabonera, Nochistlan, Zacatecas
Surnames - Perez/Aguirre/Andrade/Delgadillo/Lopez/Contreras/Plasencia/

Patricia,

Welcome to the group, I hope you enjoy this group as much as I do. I have met some wonderful people that have become very good friends.

You said you have been researching your Portuguese roots for 10 years, do you have any ancestors with the surname of Abelar or Avelar? Avelar is my maiden name and every Avelar I have encountered that is not a known member of my family has been Portuguese. I live and worked in Silicon Valley and came into contact with many Portuguese people with this surname.

Now to your husband's ancestry, you list his areas of research as "La Jabonera" in Nochistlan Zac. I have a book on loan which is titled, "Nochistlan Zacatecas" Los Duran, su Parroquia y otras familias antiguas. Much of the history and geneaology within this book is from Rancho La Jabonera, most of the focus is on "Duran" but like all Geneaology it branches off to many other surnames.

How much research have you done to date on your husband's family. I have probably around 2,000 plus entries in my database and who knows, we may have some connections.The only surname that we have in common is Aguirre which is on my husband's side. The surnames of Perez, Delgadillo and Lopez are indirect family ties.

I look forward to hearing from you Patricia.

Saludos,
Alicia Avelar, Olmos de Carrillo

Hi Erlinda,

This is what I have so far -

Juan is my husband's 3rd ggfather:
Juan Andrade b. abt 1772 m. 23 Jan 1793 El Sagrario, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, to Maria Feliciana Lopez b. abt 1775
parents of

Jose Apolonio Andrade bapt 10 June 1808 El Sagrario, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes d. bef May 1873 married to Maria Demetria Delgadillo on 13 May 1829 Nochistlan, Zacatecas
parents of

Juan Nepomuceno Andrade bapt 24 May 1835 Nochistlan, Zac. married Maria Senovia Aguirre on 22 May 1873 Nochistlan (Maria's 1st. marriage to Tereso Goncales 18 Feb 1863; he died 1869 ) Juan and Maria -
parents of

Maria Hilaria Andrade (aka Andrea Perez) b. 15 Jan 1875 Nochistlan, Zac
parents of

Maria Rufugio Perez b. 04 July 1903 Nochistlan, m. 28 Apr 1924 Dinuba, Tulare Co. CA to Florentino Corbera b. 15 April 1894 Momax, Zac (my husband's parents)
Pat Silva Corbera

Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:
Pat, you got my attention! Andrade from Aguascalientes, are they part of the family I posted on the Nuestros site?
Linda in Everett

Patricia Silva Corbera
wrote:
Hi, My name is Patricia (Pat) Silva Corbera. I'm not new to genealogy research, spending over 10 years researching my Portuguese roots from the Island of Madeira. It's now time to devote that same "energy," to my husband's "family tree." I look forward in sharing and learning from members of this group.
Visit my webpage, scan down and click on "Casita Corbera," www.geocities.com/papagaia2, to learn a little more about our Corbera family.

Areas and Surnames

El Sagrario, Aguascalientes - surname Andrade
Rancho de Los Pintos Parroquia de Momax, Zacatecas
Surnames - Corbera/Corvera/Serrano/Salamanca/Gonzalez

Rancho de La Jabonera, Nochistlan, Zacatecas
Surnames - Perez/Aguirre/Andrade/Delgadillo/Lopez/Contreras/Plasencia/

Pat, my apologies, I got so excited about seeing Andrade from Aguascalientes I forgot my manners,you are very welcome to the group. I checked out your site, what a wonderful job you've done

It's a very small world since my cousin, Maria Cuevas (De la Cueva) who married Luis Andrade is from Dinuba Ca..Her parents were Donaciano Cuevas (De la Cueva and Paula Castanon, my grandfathers sister, they settled in Dinuba in 1920 and were farmers. All my Andrade research has been done online so my information is very limited, during the same time span I have Luciano Andrade, abt 1810 married to Antonia Montes married 1835 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes. Unfortunately I won't be able to research this line until Nov since I will be in a location in Canada with no history center until then.. I look forward to comparing records and information in the future with you..
thank you for responding,
Linda in Everett

Patricia Corbera wrote: Hi Erlinda,

This is what I have so far -

Juan is my husband's 3rd ggfather:
Juan Andrade b. abt 1772 m. 23 Jan 1793 El Sagrario, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, to Maria Feliciana Lopez b. abt 1775
parents of

Jose Apolonio Andrade bapt 10 June 1808 El Sagrario, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes d. bef May 1873 married to Maria Demetria Delgadillo on 13 May 1829 Nochistlan, Zacatecas
parents of

Juan Nepomuceno Andrade bapt 24 May 1835 Nochistlan, Zac. married Maria Senovia Aguirre on 22 May 1873 Nochistlan (Maria's 1st. marriage to Tereso Goncales 18 Feb 1863; he died 1869 ) Juan and Maria -
parents of

Maria Hilaria Andrade (aka Andrea Perez) b. 15 Jan 1875 Nochistlan, Zac
parents of

Maria Rufugio Perez b. 04 July 1903 Nochistlan, m. 28 Apr 1924 Dinuba, Tulare Co. CA to Florentino Corbera b. 15 April 1894 Momax, Zac (my husband's parents)
Pat Silva Corbera

Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:
Pat, you got my attention! Andrade from Aguascalientes, are they part of the family I posted on the Nuestros site?
Linda in Everett

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Alicia, thank you for the "warm welcome." I don't have Avelars in my family, my husband's, 6th ggfather, was a Luis de Avalos b. abt 1697 Mexico; died bef 1750 m. to Maria Perez daughter of Nicolas Mexia Estrada and Mariana Isla Sandobal. Maria and Luis were the parents of Maria Teresa de Avalos, not sure if this is just one of those spelling variations of a surname that so often is found. We're almost neighbors, I live in Tracy. The publication that you noted, Nochistlan Zacatecas" Los Duran, su Parroquia y otras familias antiguas, "on loan," from a local library? Tino (my husband) has Duran ancestors from Nochistlan. I would love to see that book. His maternal ancestry resided in Nochistlan for over 300 yrs. It's his paternal line of Corbera that proven to be difficult for me. I only have about 300 in my computer for his family, but there's a lot of siblings that I didn't add. I bet with your Portuguese ancestry you and I probably are related. I just recently
had my mtDNA tested, and I'm in the process of talking my husband into getting his mtDNA and yDNA tested. How exciting it would be to find a common ancestor in Tino's lines with you or your husband. Pat

Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Patricia,

Welcome to the group, I hope you enjoy this group as much as I do. I have met some wonderful people that have become very good friends.

You said you have been researching your Portuguese roots for 10 years, do you have any ancestors with the surname of Abelar or Avelar? Avelar is my maiden name and every Avelar I have encountered that is not a known member of my family has been Portuguese. I live and worked in Silicon Valley and came into contact with many Portuguese people with this surname.

Now to your husband's ancestry, you list his areas of research as "La Jabonera" in Nochistlan Zac. I have a book on loan which is titled, "Nochistlan Zacatecas" Los Duran, su Parroquia y otras familias antiguas. Much of the history and geneaology within this book is from Rancho La Jabonera, most of the focus is on "Duran" but like all Geneaology it branches off to many other surnames.

How much research have you done to date on your husband's family. I have probably around 2,000 plus entries in my database and who knows, we may have some connections.The only surname that we have in common is Aguirre which is on my husband's side. The surnames of Perez, Delgadillo and Lopez are indirect family ties.

I look forward to hearing from you Patricia.

Saludos,
Alicia Avelar, Olmos de Carrillo

Linda, this is wonderful... My husband and his sister thought that their parents were married in Mexico, so what a surprise when they learned about Dinuba. I was going through vital records that my sister-in-law had, when I came across my in-law's marriage record. I didn't know where Dinuba was located, had to look it up on a map.
Researching my husband's roots has been difficult for me. It took years before I felt comfortable reading the Portuguese vital records. I do not speak nor write, but understand the spoken Portuguese language. I fumble through the vital records of Mexico checking almost every word with my handy Spanish/English Dictionary.
Thank you for the kind words about my website. It's a labor of love. Yesterday when I came across the NuestrosRanchos website, it rekindled my interest in continuing with researching Tino's Hispanic roots. I'm so pleased that finally there's a site that I can learn, plus share what I have in order to link with family members. A great deal of what I have on the Perez line came from a very helpful online friend, Deena Ortiz. We have a local FHC here, and I have ordered film, but it's been a while ago. Pat
Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:
Pat, my apologies, I got so excited about seeing Andrade from Aguascalientes I forgot my manners,you are very welcome to the group. I checked out your site, what a wonderful job you've done

It's a very small world since my cousin, Maria Cuevas (De la Cueva) who married Luis Andrade is from Dinuba Ca..Her parents were Donaciano Cuevas (De la Cueva and Paula Castanon, my grandfathers sister, they settled in Dinuba in 1920 and were farmers. All my Andrade research has been done online so my information is very limited, during the same time span I have Luciano Andrade, abt 1810 married to Antonia Montes married 1835 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes. Unfortunately I won't be able to research this line until Nov since I will be in a location in Canada with no history center until then.. I look forward to comparing records and information in the future with you..
thank you for responding,
Linda in Everett

Patricia Corbera
wrote: Hi Erlinda,

This is what I have so far -

Juan is my husband's 3rd ggfather:
Juan Andrade b. abt 1772 m. 23 Jan 1793 El Sagrario, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, to Maria Feliciana Lopez b. abt 1775
parents of

Jose Apolonio Andrade bapt 10 June 1808 El Sagrario, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes d. bef May 1873 married to Maria Demetria Delgadillo on 13 May 1829 Nochistlan, Zacatecas
parents of

Juan Nepomuceno Andrade bapt 24 May 1835 Nochistlan, Zac. married Maria Senovia Aguirre on 22 May 1873 Nochistlan (Maria's 1st. marriage to Tereso Goncales 18 Feb 1863; he died 1869 ) Juan and Maria -
parents of

Maria Hilaria Andrade (aka Andrea Perez) b. 15 Jan 1875 Nochistlan, Zac
parents of

Maria Rufugio Perez b. 04 July 1903 Nochistlan, m. 28 Apr 1924 Dinuba, Tulare Co. CA to Florentino Corbera b. 15 April 1894 Momax, Zac (my husband's parents)
Pat Silva Corbera

Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:
Pat, you got my attention! Andrade from Aguascalientes, are they part of the family I posted on the Nuestros site?
Linda in Everett

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Patricia,

As a result of my connections with Nuestros Ranchos, I belong to the northern California chapter of Geneaologists for this group. We meet quarterly in Sacramento but this quarter we will be meeting in Brentwood. I will be doing a presentation on this book "Nochistlan Zacatecas" Los Duran, su Parroquia y otras familias antiguas. If you're interested in attending or joining this group, we would love to have you, we can inform Maria Cortes our group coordinator and facilitator and she can add you to the list of attendees.
Knowing of your husband's surnames and with Rancho La Jabonera as the main point of exit for many of the families listed in this book I will begin a quick scan of the surnames you listed and forward to you if they seem pertinent.

My family as well as my husband's family both descend from Nochistlan for the last 250 years or so and going back further I'm finding roots in Pabellon Rincon de Romos Aguascalientes, Jalpa and Tabasco Zacatecas and Teocaltiche Jalisco. You can find a listing of our family's surnames in Nuestros Ranchos files under, Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo and Juan Carrillo Olmos.

Saludos,
Alicia

Alicia, do you know when the meeting will take place in Brentwood? Is this publication available for sale, and if so how does one go about obtaining a copy? I'll check out your listing of family surnames and get back to you if I see a possible connection.
Thank you so much for being so gracious. I truly feel very "at home," with this group.
Sincerely,
Pat

Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Patricia,

As a result of my connections with Nuestros Ranchos, I belong to the northern California chapter of Geneaologists for this group. We meet quarterly in Sacramento but this quarter we will be meeting in Brentwood. I will be doing a presentation on this book "Nochistlan Zacatecas" Los Duran, su Parroquia y otras familias antiguas. If you're interested in attending or joining this group, we would love to have you, we can inform Maria Cortes our group coordinator and facilitator and she can add you to the list of attendees.
Knowing of your husband's surnames and with Rancho La Jabonera as the main point of exit for many of the families listed in this book I will begin a quick scan of the surnames you listed and forward to you if they seem pertinent.

My family as well as my husband's family both descend from Nochistlan for the last 250 years or so and going back further I'm finding roots in Pabellon Rincon de Romos Aguascalientes, Jalpa and Tabasco Zacatecas and Teocaltiche Jalisco. You can find a listing of our family's surnames in Nuestros Ranchos files under, Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo and Juan Carrillo Olmos.

Saludos,
Alicia

Alicia,

From your listing the following "same," surnames appear in my husband's ancestry.

Alvares, Aguayo, Garcia, de Frias, Duran, Esparza, Aguirre, Martinez and Rubalcava.

Tomorrow I'll figure out how to upload an "ahnentafel," chart, that will make it easier in comparing what I do have.

to be continued
Pat

Patricia Corbera wrote:
Alicia, do you know when the meeting will take place in Brentwood? Is this publication available for sale, and if so how does one go about obtaining a copy? I'll check out your listing of family surnames and get back to you if I see a possible connection.
Thank you so much for being so gracious. I truly feel very "at home," with this group.
Sincerely,
Pat

Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Patricia,

As a result of my connections with Nuestros Ranchos, I belong to the northern California chapter of Geneaologists for this group. We meet quarterly in Sacramento but this quarter we will be meeting in Brentwood. I will be doing a presentation on this book "Nochistlan Zacatecas" Los Duran, su Parroquia y otras familias antiguas. If you're interested in attending or joining this group, we would love to have you, we can inform Maria Cortes our group coordinator and facilitator and she can add you to the list of attendees.
Knowing of your husband's surnames and with Rancho La Jabonera as the main point of exit for many of the families listed in this book I will begin a quick scan of the surnames you listed and forward to you if they seem pertinent.

My family as well as my husband's family both descend from Nochistlan for the last 250 years or so and going back further I'm finding roots in Pabellon Rincon de Romos Aguascalientes, Jalpa and Tabasco Zacatecas and Teocaltiche Jalisco. You can find a listing of our family's surnames in Nuestros Ranchos files under, Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo and Juan Carrillo Olmos.

Saludos,
Alicia

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